RALETC Official Results of Veil G5 - Testing - Part 2

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Understood for conduction staged (and repeatable) runs. However that targeting it NOT representative of what's done in the real-world. I haven't seen tripod mounting for more than a decade. These latest guns are specifically designed to be hand-held. Like with any CM testing, they're performance will always tend to be better in the real-world. Those here can discount Veil's efficacy, but for those willing to actually use it in the real-world, these are the results I want to see. People don't get issued tickets on closed course testing.

We'll see if we can figure more out with Mirage and his setup and if we can improve in some way, we'll see what we can do. I am still looking forward to tests that are more representative of how lidar is used by LEOs, but with Veil alone and then with jammers on a variety of vehicles and against a variety of guns. That's going to take time though. But, I can be a patient guy.

VG

LEOs rarely free hand when they shoot lidar. They may not be resting the LIDAR on a tripod, but they will rest the LIDAR on the window sill against the door jam, on top of the steering wheel or another stable platform. I would like to clarify that when we use a tripod for testing, LIDAR is not attached to the tripod. We use the tripod as a stable platform to rest the LIDAR upon.

To me the use of a tripod as an explaination of the performance of Veil in this test isn't valid.

We have used tripods in he past on vehicles equipped with Veil G4 and a laser jammer in the past with excellent performance results from the jammer/Veil G4 combination. Just look at the results from member Fox in the Hole from our last jammer meet.

Tripod mounts are used in just about every speed trap I've seen here.

If it's not a speed trap but a single LEO tagging people he is like above, resting it steadily on a hard surface.

That video you posted VG proves absolutely nothing about Veil and shows the V1 picking up laser. Nothing from the police perspective. Even the guy filming says he wasn't speeding so that is in absolutely zero way a save of any kind or showing how Veil worked as advertised.