RALETC Official Results of Veil G5 - Testing - Part 2

[The Only Sarge]

I was there for this and it was pretty hard to deny he had good results, better than expected, and he was running LIs not alps. Now, personally I'm not willing to slather crap anywhere on my car, but for 100 bux or whatever I still think the product has value, especially when people are dropping 5k on the stinger.

I would be curious at what distances FitH realized a benefit. I cannot find the test Yellowcab is referring to. Of course I am old and stupid......link assist please.

[Mirage]

I would be curious at what distances FitH realized a benefit. I cannot find the test Yellowcab is referring to. Of course I am old and stupid......link assist please.

http://www.raletc.com/2014/09/raletc...sting-results/

Compare the Laser Interceptor Vehicles.

[The Only Sarge]

http://www.raletc.com/2014/09/raletc...sting-results/

Compare the Laser Interceptor Vehicles.

OK thank you Mirage.
So after reading it...It could have been the frontal area and separation of the heads (lack of crosstalk) that caused the JTG back to back performance...it could have been the Veil.....it could have been a perfect installation....all according to the author there.
I firmly believe cutting down the reflectivity is a plus. No doubt in my mind. The question in this thread and the purpose of Mirage's test Sunday are simple. Does Veil perform as advertised? Yes or No. Fox in the Hole runs are inconclusive concerning Veil. As a LI user I love his results....but I do not see anywhere in the test nor the writeup that I could contribute his success to one particular item or product.
Bottom line for me is I wish like hell Veil worked. I have no personal ax to grind here. If it worked and could be definitively proven to work I would slap that shit all over the GT500 and the GTO and go like hell. But we all know the answer to that wish.....DENIED.

[BestRadarDetectors]

OK thank you Mirage.
So after reading it...It could have been the frontal area and separation of the heads (lack of crosstalk) that caused the JTG back to back performance...it could have been the Veil.....it could have been a perfect installation....all according to the author there.
I firmly believe cutting down the reflectivity is a plus. No doubt in my mind. The question in this thread and the purpose of Mirage's test Sunday are simple. Does Veil perform as advertised? Yes or No. Fox in the Hole runs are inconclusive concerning Veil. As a LI user I love his results....but I do not see anywhere in the test nor the writeup that I could contribute his success to one particular item or product.

This is why I wish we had HUD on those runs and why I requested HUD video on any product testings. Of course this is not possible due to time in regular user meets but for product testing it needs to be done. There could be many reasons for those results and the results were inconsistent from one run to another. Its virtually impossible to see why that run was good... Did the LI's work on that run and catch the Compact in an pattern it liked? Did G4 (The car was slopped with it) help? Did the shooter stay on target? Its impossible to know without seeing the video to answer many questions.

[The Only Sarge]

This is why I wish we had HUD on those runs and why I requested HUD video on any product testings. Of course this is not possible due to time in regular user meets but for product testing it needs to be done. There could be many reasons for those results and the results were inconsistent from one run to another. Its virtually impossible to see why that run was good... Did the LI's work on that run and catch the Compact in an pattern it liked? Did G4 (The car was slopped with it) help? Did the shooter stay on target? Its impossible to know without seeing the video to answer many questions.

Well said BRD.
I believe the French would call that "inconclusive".

[Salty]

When I mentioned the price of the stinger I wasn't commenting on how good or not good or worth it/not worth it is, I just meant that veil at $100 is a relative bargain considering what we spend for an alp, or a redline, a v1, a scanner etc.

Fox in the holes results at the jammer meet were really good, and most of us there had a feeling it was the veil all over his plate and headlights.

To truly test this you'd have to do a ton of runs with a couple different cars with jammers on, get an average punch through distance, then apply veil, do the same number of runs in the exact same way and find that average punch through distance. This would be a tough test to do and would take some serious time.

Bullshit. I don't care how cheap a product is. If it doesn't do shit, it's not a bargain.

[NYSpeederPVM]

Bullshit. I don't care how cheap a product is. If it doesn't do shit, it's not a bargain.

That's the thing, I'm still not convinced it doesn't do anything at all. Now, did I ever think for two seconds it would stand alone against laser? No way. But, I am pretty sure when it's behind a nice set of jammers, it makes them work even better.

Now, if veil guy is claiming it stands on its own, that's bs for sure, but I feel like I'm seeing pitchforks and torches in this thread when really we still don't know for sure that it does absolutely zero. Close to zero maybe but when the discussion is among a group of people that want every advantage possible I still think veil has the possibility of adding to a "layered" setup. And again 100 is a drop in the bucket for some people's setups.