RALETC Official Results of Veil G5 - Testing - Part 2

[Tman]

Ok , i get it ...sorry if i sounded inquisitive , as Sarge wrote = it was all the odds for the contestant ...and it failed.

The reason we covered the turn signals (and coated the tape in Veil) was because VG said the head lights were enough to get good performance and due to the way the turn signals are on the Camaro it was too much of a risk to install it directly. While I was willing to try for the sake of the community I didn't want to damage my expensive vehicle especially since it was going to be difficult to remove. I was skeptical about the easy removal based on the other claims. I tested removing from the headlamp assembly and it was not easy to remove. Took some real elbow grease. I wasn't willing to do that again on that area of the car but the head lights I didn't have much choice. Won can attest it would have been a pain in the ass on the turn signals.

[hussein]

... I tested removing from the headlamp assembly and it was not easy to remove. Took some real elbow grease. ...

After it cures it is a hassle to remove. I found it was easiest to fill a cup with vinegar to dip the supplied brush in and then rub it like an eraser against the Veiled surface.

[OrlNmE]

The Sarge, All I got to say to you is you need to back off and leave..............

JK..OK, Now on a serious note, you call it like it is!!! No sugar coating your responses and for that, I commend you. I don't like to get to involved in these heated topics because I, Like you, would call it like I see it, and sometimes I may get a little hot headed if someone tries to blow smoke at me about a product like we are seeing already here. .

MIRAGE, Thank you for the test, excellent opportunity you gave G5, but it is what it is, the results speak for themselves.

[Tman]

Who would not plunge after reading those diatribes ?

'' Veil G5 improves laser jamming performance by further reducing your vehicle’s overall reflective laser signature (the military calls this “laser cross-section”).
This makes it much easier for your laser jammer to work effectively. In fact, by using Veil G5, you may also be able to reduce the number of jamming heads
you would otherwise require and still achieve superior performance.

For example, instead of needing a three head system for the front, you may only require a two head or even a single head (above the center front plate area).
In other words, you can actually get better protection for LESS MONEY and still achieve superior results with a defense in depth approach with Veil.''
Ref.: http://www.stealthveil.com/faq#faq8

It remembers me the old story of wishfull thinking : you wont get pregnant if you think hard enough you wont.

''Today, police laser guns are being manufactured specifically to defeat laser jammers and nearly all models are being rendered entirely ineffective
as if one were driving without any countermeasure at all. When confronted by these types of police lasers, jammers won’t even alert to these new guns.''

The only good point here is to make believe cops that jammers are toys.

'' The newest lasers have the ability to record and store a jammer’s interference attempts (successful or not)
and this information may then later be reviewed by their manufacturers with the expressed intent of defeating
new jammers or jamming algorithms that appear as software updates.''

Is this true and confirmed ? I never heard of it ...perhaps i am late at the party.

''Veil G5 is a water-borne transparent acrylic latex polymer coating ''
No wonder it is ''After it cures it is a hassle to remove ''

''More is not necessarily better.''
This is the Truth , and it shall be shared to all.

[Mirage]

'' The newest lasers have the ability to record and store a jammer’s interference attempts (successful or not)
and this information may then later be reviewed by their manufacturers with the expressed intent of defeating
new jammers or jamming algorithms that appear as software updates.''

Is this true and confirmed ? I never heard of it ...perhaps i am late at the party.

NO this was a story that was made up and VG believed it. I heard it too and was ROFLMAO.

[Won Hunglo]

Looking forward to the retest. Just to make it fair, Michael J Fox has been invited to shoot the lidars.

[Mirage]

Looking forward to the retest. Just to make it fair, Michael J Fox has been invited to shoot the lidars.

Won now come on... you know as well as I do Michael couldn't make it so we had to settle for Stevie Wonder.

[The Only Sarge]

The Sarge, All I got to say to you is you need to back off and leave..............

JK..OK, Now on a serious note, you call it like it is!!! No sugar coating your responses and for that, I commend you. I don't like to get to involved in these heated topics because I, Like you, would call it like I see it, and sometimes I may get a little hot headed if someone tries to blow smoke at me about a product like we are seeing already here. .

MIRAGE, Thank you for the test, excellent opportunity you gave G5, but it is what it is, the results speak for themselves.

Im no kid just looking for an internet forum argument.
I have a real life in the real world......got better things to do.....I am old enough and experienced enough to get my ass in a chapped situation when somebody just flat out runs a con. Laser Veil is a con run by a con and supported with bullshit "testing" by a convicted felon in Radar Roy. It is what it is.
VG will ask for test scenarios until the cows come home with endless bullshit......Mirage is a smart young man and gave his product a HUGE advantage to perform and it was shown to be worthless.
I challenge anybody to go to his (VG) website, read the bullshit and you come tell us (after digesting Mirage and Vortex observations) if any of it is true.
No reason to be hotheaded about anything.
I can go on until my fingers fall off here with bullet points of VG bullshit, provide links out the ass...but why? His product is worthless shit. Period.
But if he ever wants I have a library of his bullshit ready to go. But many have challenged him and all you get is "I misspoke" and "not what I meant"...endless horseshit.
If VG has a brain...at all.....he will just sleaze on down the road.
I have moved on.

[The Only Sarge]

Won now come on... you know as well as I do Michael couldn't make it so we had to settle for Stevie Wonder.

What is this? Do I detect humor?

[The Only Sarge]

Who would not plunge after reading those diatribes ?

'' Veil G5 improves laser jamming performance by further reducing your vehicle’s overall reflective laser signature (the military calls this “laser cross-section”).
This makes it much easier for your laser jammer to work effectively. In fact, by using Veil G5, you may also be able to reduce the number of jamming heads
you would otherwise require and still achieve superior performance.

For example, instead of needing a three head system for the front, you may only require a two head or even a single head (above the center front plate area).
In other words, you can actually get better protection for LESS MONEY and still achieve superior results with a defense in depth approach with Veil.''
Ref.: http://www.stealthveil.com/faq#faq8

It remembers me the old story of wishfull thinking : you wont get pregnant if you think hard enough you wont.

''Today, police laser guns are being manufactured specifically to defeat laser jammers and nearly all models are being rendered entirely ineffective
as if one were driving without any countermeasure at all. When confronted by these types of police lasers, jammers won’t even alert to these new guns.''

The only good point here is to make believe cops that jammers are toys.

'' The newest lasers have the ability to record and store a jammer’s interference attempts (successful or not)
and this information may then later be reviewed by their manufacturers with the expressed intent of defeating
new jammers or jamming algorithms that appear as software updates.''

Is this true and confirmed ? I never heard of it ...perhaps i am late at the party.

''Veil G5 is a water-borne transparent acrylic latex polymer coating ''
No wonder it is ''After it cures it is a hassle to remove ''

''More is not necessarily better.''
This is the Truth , and it shall be shared to all.

Tman...any good con man will sprinkle bits of truth in with boatloads of bullshit. It gives them deniable options.
Example:
Laser Veil absorbs the laser ...blah blah...
Well sorta.....it has components in it that are manufactured by third parties that are proven to absorb laser. But does that mean it will provide real world protection? Hell no. It is a partial truth that is playing on the average Joe making the ASSUMPTION he will be protected in a actual real world Police encounter shooting laser. But he doesnt say that...he just tells you Laser Veil is proven to absorb laser.
It is a classic con statement with deniable outs when challenged.
Then you get into the endless loop of acceptable testing parameters. Hand held is not fair....oh wait....tripod held is not fair....no wait a minute.....
Your test course needs to be 40000000000 feet....oh wait.....you have to use a car that is all black and no headlights or chrome and no front license plate....you see what is happening here? Endless. Well it ended the day Mirage did his test.
Then a good con man will play the human element. Oh this is my baby...I worked so hard.....I am a pioneer in the industry (self appointed)....on and on. Bullshit again. Does your product do what you claim on your web sight? Yes or No. Do you have anybody who is not a convicted felon that can test/document and verify these claims are accurate?