Greetings From WA (Western Australia) REVNURAZR

Hey All,

Thought I would jump on here as I am always wanting to learn more about Laser Jammers and Radar detectors.

I drive an Australian Delivered MY02 WRX STI.

http://i.imgur.com/4ETrI91.jpg?1

The number-plates are a not so subtle statement towards the Government and Police here who are only interested in using speed cameras to Raise Revenue, not the life saving purpose they are intended for...

Hence the plates REVNURAZR - Revenue Raiser :beguiled:

They get a laugh with a few of the cops, highway patrol do not often share my sense of humour unfortunately :confusion:

I currently run, in justification for my plates;

-ALP Quint 3F, 2R
-Custom relay "mute" circuit cuts switched power to my head-unit if the ALP alerts
-Pro DB rear License Plate "light"

This setup is pretty effective but with WAPOL (Western Australian Police) employing sneakier tactics (rear facing cameras, completely hidden and camouflaged cameras) it will only be a matter of time.

I am looking at upgrading to the Laser Interceptor quad sensors front and rear. 35 degree angle on the 2 outside sensors.

From what I have researched this is a proven and fairly reliable setup to defend against the Vitronic Poliscan....

Looking forward to learning more and seeing what you guys think haha :)

Cheers!

Welcome to the Forum, mate.
Your Blinders WILL NOT protect you from the Poliscans. There are plenty of guys from Oz here on the Forum...you need to talk w/ them on how to really protect yourself down-under.

Welcome................and what he ^^^^^^^^^^^^ said.

welcome from the East Coast mate, as red rocket says have good read on our forum for ozzies, plus look at ALP laser sec , also curios how blinders have give u protection from the poliscan, WA is riddled with them and well hidden

Welcome from Perth mate :)

HP-905's are good at detecting Poliscan, and that's about it :) (work fine on hand helds).

I've owned HP-905's / LI's / ALP's

ALP's are the way to go - much more sensitive to Poliscan than LI, especially for rear facing setups, better support and continual development and new features

Welcome from Canada , Qc .

Nice car , i drove while ago a Subaru Legacy turbo ...few good stories against leos.

Welcome aboard

Welcome mate, from AUS.

Yea, sell the 905's..... ASAP
As mentioned, they will detect and alert... but that is all they do and who every sold them to you should have known better.

For Poliscan you either need one of the following.
-Anti-laser Priority
-Stinger VIP with LAB and HD verison LJ's
-Laser Interceptors

Blinder are aware of this issue and have made MANY failed attempt @ fixing it and looks like they now have given up, so it not even worth asking them. Just cheaper to rip it off your car and ebay it to someone else

Also any affiliation with Revenue-Raiser-Resistance
There is a few people on that Facebook page that could use some education on Countermeasures

Welcome! And nice ride...

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Welcome to the Forum, mate.
Your Blinders WILL NOT protect you from the Poliscans. There are plenty of guys from Oz here on the Forum...you need to talk w/ them on how to really protect yourself down-under.

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Thanks,

Made aware recently about the effectiveness (or lack-thereof) of the HP-905. It is currently up for sale and upgrading to the LI quad system asap.

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Originally Posted by curmudgeon

Welcome................and what he ^^^^^^^^^^^^ said.

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As above :P

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Originally Posted by dinkydi

welcome from the East Coast mate, as red rocket says have good read on our forum for ozzies, plus look at ALP laser sec , also curios how blinders have give u protection from the poliscan, WA is riddled with them and well hidden

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They don't protect against them, just a warning but usually enough distance to "safely check your speed"

Rear facing set-up you are gone regardless (unless you are lucky to get laser scatter from a car being hit in front of you)

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Originally Posted by winterbrew

Welcome from Perth mate :)

HP-905's are good at detecting Poliscan, and that's about it :) (work fine on hand helds).

I've owned HP-905's / LI's / ALP's

ALP's are the way to go - much more sensitive to Poliscan than LI, especially for rear facing setups, better support and continual development and new features

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Thanks mate! :)

Yeah that's the upgrade plan. Just sold the RX75 (ancient technology)

Volatile Car Audio in Perth can supply and fit the LI quad unit for $1700 with a forum member discount.

That's the game plan once I've sold off all the other bits (V1 + Blinder)

The HP-905 is great against hand-helds...that's it unfortunately haha

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Originally Posted by shanetrainST

Welcome mate, from AUS.

Yea, sell the 905's..... ASAP
As mentioned, they will detect and alert... but that is all they do and who every sold them to you should have known better.

For Poliscan you either need one of the following.
-Anti-laser Priority
-Stinger VIP with LAB and HD verison LJ's
-Laser Interceptors

Blinder are aware of this issue and have made MANY failed attempt @ fixing it and looks like they now have given up, so it not even worth asking them. Just cheaper to rip it off your car and ebay it to someone else

Also any affiliation with Revenue-Raiser-Resistance
There is a few people on that Facebook page that could use some education on Countermeasures

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Thank you :)

No affiliation, I do now currently represent the page with a sticker to match the plates :P

Quite a few who have no idea on there though, most better off holding signs than arguing their Whistler Radar detector is better than the V1 and Blinder system :help:

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Welcome! And nice ride...

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Thanks! :)

Pushing 350hp 430nm @ hubs, so enough to require some "extra stopping time" on a spirited drive :P

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Welcome aboard

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Cheers!

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Welcome from Canada , Qc .

Nice car , i drove while ago a Subaru Legacy turbo ...few good stories against leos.

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Thanks!

Yes, 2nd Boxer turbo I have owned, the note is just infectious!

Slight update...

Sold off the Blinder and Beltronics and purchased the LI Dual for the front....

Grabbed the Pro DB for the rear number-plate.

Anyone who wants info on what it is and how it works see here;

http://www.appliedtechnologiesusa.com/

Essentially a capacitor charged flash unit that sits above the number-plate.

When the camera (rear facing) flashes to take a photo, the Pro DB detects this and flashes downwards onto the number-plate.

This will essentially make the plate illegible, have tried it at 0.5m and the results were pretty impressive..

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Would be pretty difficult to make out the plate from 20m away, and having seen evidence from a few cars running them it does appear to work.

Yest to test it but will be giving it a run when I get back from work next on one of the fixed speed cameras.

I'll get some install pics tomorrow as well. All installed myself including the relay circuit to mute the stereo if the LI alerts.

Thoughts or opinions
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very nice install, look forward to the testing

Nice - did you get the ProDB direct from USA, or the distributor here.

It probably won't affect you too much on the rear, but it was found that lidar from a front facing poliscan or handheld can make the ProDB false prematurely. The guy in this thread below had it false on him a second or two early before he approached a front facing poliscan, and then got flashed and ticketed;

http://radarandlaserforum.com/showth...DB-Test-Result

The local distributor fixed this by applying some IR filtering film over the sensor. That was shown to fix the lidar/IR falsing issue

This is the one we're waiting on - the Mk II NoPhoto ;

http://www.nophoto.com/

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No one's had a production model to test yet, but there's been several videos showing it reject falses from handheld lidars etc

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Originally Posted by dinkydi

very nice install, look forward to the testing

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Back tomorrow, will need to dig up my dash camera and go for a drive.

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Originally Posted by winterbrew

Nice - did you get the ProDB direct from USA, or the distributor here.

It probably won't affect you too much on the rear, but it was found that lidar from a front facing poliscan or handheld can make the ProDB false prematurely. The guy in this thread below had it false on him a second or two early before he approached a front facing poliscan, and then got flashed and ticketed;

http://radarandlaserforum.com/showth...DB-Test-Result

The local distributor fixed this by applying some IR filtering film over the sensor. That was shown to fix the lidar/IR falsing issue

This is the one we're waiting on - the Mk II NoPhoto ;



No one's had a production model to test yet, but there's been several videos showing it reject falses from handheld lidars etc

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I got it from an Australian distributor here in WA, from what they have told me there is only 70 cars including mine in WA that have the PRO DB installed. They haven't had a complaint yet.

I went back there to verify the install and ensure the LI was programmed correctly, I downloaded the software and enabled the optional parking sensor switch which I have wired up and put in a "safe" place inside the vehicle should I need to prove it operates as such to the fuzz.

They tested the LI with a Trucam and also tried to set the Pro DB off with it, but it wouldn't flash.

Jam time is set for 5 seconds and 20 seconds re-boot time.

The No-photo looks pretty good, a lot more slimline and subtle opposed to the Pro DB. I'll be sure to inquire about the release date in AUS.

I'll get some pictures up tomorrow and hopefully a video or 2

Cheers

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Originally Posted by REVNURAZR

I got it from an Australian distributor here in WA, from what they have told me there is only 70 cars including mine in WA that have the PRO DB installed. They haven't had a complaint yet.

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Nice - sounds like they definitely got the initial falsing issue sorted now then :)

Pics of the install;


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See if these work :)

very nice install,

Thanks :)

I'm actually a little disappointed with the LI TBH.

Having a look at the ALP and even considering the Blinder HP-905, the LI seems rather "cheap" the control unit is just that, with no concealed display unit like the ALP.

Even the Blinder had a better control unit that actually looked half decent.

Although I guess appearance can be overlooked for an item that does offer protection against all LIDAR.

I didn't manage to get any footage last week as there weren't many cameras around my area or if there were I didn't have my camera with me (bit daft)

Will endeavor to get one this week.

Got a video,

decent warning distance, camera is hidden in front of the power pole with the X-Trail parked in the street adjacent...cheeky

10M behind the concrete bus bench for those playing @ home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X4CROLxMSI

Minor update;

Sold the V1 and am currently selling the LI's.

Purchased the 5 sensor ALP kit and installed a few days ago.

Optional GPS Antenna was also used to setup speed based Jamming and Parking mode;

Have to wait for the HIFI module to come in and I will be running that with the external speaker for alerts.

Relay mute circuit is still in use as the head unit I am using doesn't have a mute wire :(

Sorry for average pictures, and lack of the 3 sensor setup on the front...I am getting the front bumper repaired and repainted in the coming weeks so the install was basic.

Rears need some adjustment, the rear Subaru bumper is a prick to mount anything to, and the below pic was the only real option...


Feedback welcome! :)



http://i.imgur.com/bN5PXxn.jpg

Water stains I swear...

http://i.imgur.com/7Hm0s5L.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bjf2yLe.jpg

On the car;

http://i.imgur.com/SapBAtQ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EVrKHKI.jpg

May need to visit Rowan to check the setup of the rear sensors...

Went for a test run past one of our fixed freeway speed cameras - Poliscan at 11pm and seen the unmistakable orange IR flash go off.

Had the Pro DB on and active, so hoping that went off and saved the fine - only 6/7km/h over so will be 100 AUD.

Will keep updates coming if the ticket comes in the mail.

Fingers crossed

That's the setup I went through the camera with, level on both sides and on about a 25/30 degree angle


http://i.imgur.com/lEEItgH.jpg

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Originally Posted by REVNURAZR

May need to visit Rowan to check the setup of the rear sensors...

Went for a test run past one of our fixed freeway speed cameras - Poliscan at 11pm and seen the unmistakable orange IR flash go off.

Had the Pro DB on and active, so hoping that went off and saved the fine - only 6/7km/h over so will be 100 AUD.

Will keep updates coming if the ticket comes in the mail.

Fingers crossed

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the rear i believe are very tricky, be interesting to see the no-photo results, and depending on what type of flash used

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Originally Posted by dinkydi

the rear i believe are very tricky, be interesting to see the no-photo results, and depending on what type of flash used

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Very much so, mixed reviews on angle facing outwards, I was told 25-30 degrees is usually best for rear protection

I mentioned above - was orange flash so IR. Stupidly didn't check the Pro DB status LED..

Waiting game for the ticket - been 1.5 weeks so far.

Also finally found a spot for the controller in the car;

http://i.imgur.com/ymetkWB.jpg

HIFI speaker sits under the glovebox in the passenger footwell

Yeah, unfortunately you don't have many rear mounting options available there.

We heard before from somewhere, that they are typically set up to sample around 0.8m above the road. Until you get an infringement photo back with the short horizontal sampling line on showing where it took the reading from, you can't be certain.

Mine are higher up and more widely spaced, at 35 deg, and I also have a centre head (running 3 on the back).

Which lane did you use - lane 1 (the inside left) is the trickiest, at it pretty much blasts you at minimum range. The trigger points on the outer lanes are further down the road.

Another option, if you run 3 rear heads, is to install one of the heads on the passenger side door mirror, so this gives maximum detection warning, as this point of the car passes the scanning beam before the rear

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Originally Posted by winterbrew

Yeah, unfortunately you don't have many rear mounting options available there.

We heard before from somewhere, that they are typically set up to sample around 0.8m above the road. Until you get an infringement photo back with the short horizontal sampling line on showing where it took the reading from, you can't be certain.

Mine are higher up and more widely spaced, at 35 deg, and I also have a centre head (running 3 on the back).

Which lane did you use - lane 1 (the inside left) is the trickiest, at it pretty much blasts you at minimum range. The trigger points on the outer lanes are further down the road.

Another option, if you run 3 rear heads, is to install one of the heads on the passenger side door mirror, so this gives maximum detection warning, as this point of the car passes the scanning beam before the rear

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Yeah the rear bumper makes life very hard to have any kind of stealth install.

I'll find out now if any fines have come, fingers crossed the Pro DB did it's job.

I've got the 3 on the front, but no option to move that to the rear unless it is on the mirror...could be something worth doing for that extra 0.5 second notice.

I used the middle lane, no cars around me for "worst case" conditions so we shall wait and see.

i thought u had the no-photo, not the pro-b, musta got confused :D

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Originally Posted by dinkydi

i thought u had the no-photo, not the pro-b, musta got confused :D

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I have contacted Radar's Direct here to see if they will be stocking the NoPhoto...

If not, it's about $590 AUD delivered from Nathan @ NoPhoto, so I will look into that if it's a more stealth option..

no-photo will pay any fines even in AU, not fully as yet tested against Polis

Update....

Has been near on 1 month since I went past the camera...

No fine has arrived yet...they are usually delivered within 2-3 weeks of the offence, so I'm feeling positive the ProDB has delivered the goods and blocked the photo of the rear plate :chuncky:

I'm also going to be looking at re-adding the V1 to my arsenal...

Highway patrol as well as Police motorcycles are running the Raptor RP-1 Traffic Radar.

I currently don't run anything to warn against K and KA band threats, so I will be purchasing the Radar module for the ALP + Brand new V1 with the rear view mirror mount I have at home.

Integrate that with the ALP and run it as dedicated radar warning.

Will update once I gather and install :)

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Update....

Has been near on 1 month since I went past the camera...

No fine has arrived yet...they are usually delivered within 2-3 weeks of the offence, so I'm feeling positive the ProDB has delivered the goods and blocked the photo of the rear plate :chuncky:

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all looking good for the pro b