Can at least one person meet up and test this with me? Preferably in the next few days. Sunday has a 90% chance of rain.
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Can at least one person meet up and test this with me? Preferably in the next few days. Sunday has a 90% chance of rain.
Post some photo's of the retail box and contents if you dont mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by hussein
Check with GA Speed or SLO and see if any have any time to help you do some testing.
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Nice pics!
VG
Good luck. Looking forward to your results! If you also have a vehicle with a jammer, I would really appreciate seeing results of veil only, jammer only, veil+jammer. Such a test has yet to be conducted and it could tell us a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by hussein
Thanks for investing in G5.
VG
PM sent :P
Looking forward to seeing how this tests. It looks like the supply sold out pretty quickly.
So far tentative plan is to meet tomorrow morning w/ Jaguar. If anyone else is interested, PM me so I can text you the details once they are confirmed.
Fuck it we're doing it today :D
Got a test course about 2000' near my house, will bring my t4i and shoot some pictures of applications too, also think I have a spare plate somewhere...
Look forward to your testing results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaguar
Some hillbilly came and kicked us off the property, had to move.
So no testing was able to get done?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaguar
We found a 1000'ft stretch right by my house we could use. Results: Doesn't do a dang thing. Came off easily with vinegar though.
I let hussein shoot his car after I did, both of us pretty much same thoughts, didn't help at all, and way too dark with two coats. Pictures and his thoughts to follow when he gets back.
Thanks for doing the first test that I know of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaguar
Yeah, both of us were just really unimpressed, and directly on a plate, just looks like a dirty plate, and if you don't layer it out far enough it just looks dark. He brought up a really good point through, why not make it an aerosol? then you can just tape off the area and spray.
Well that's a bummer. What gun did you guys use and what areas did you paint/target?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaguar
Never used Veil, but is this not tested by the manufacturer before release,
When you say it doesn't do a dang thing, do you mean it doesn't even give you a few feet until pt? As in almost instant pt?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaguar
As in there was no noticeable difference between no veil and veil. We used my LRB and his PL3. My LRB has current calibration and is dead on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty
On the plus side, jammers on, he's JTG/JFG.
Wow. That sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaguar
We tried one layer on all, then started to put a second layer on, it looked terrible. I gotta find my card reader before I can put my shots up, but he got some good pictures too.
What vehicle(s) did you use? What laser guns? Sounds like a thorough test.
Shoot, maybe we sent you shoe polish by mistake.
I suppose Tom must be relieved now that he's not selling shoe polish any more. ;)
VG
Thanks for being the first to do a test with the official shoe polish. I have yet to receive mine, but anticipate similar results. :popcorn:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaguar
Do you have any Florsheims? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirage
VG
Sorry Bob but is that all you have? No explanation or concern g5 is not working as advertised?Quote:
Originally Posted by Veil Guy
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Originally Posted by Veil Guy
Sure do you think it will work the same? :D
@Jaguar did you guys happen to try IR photo testing? I'm sure it's not something everyone will be able to do, but just curious if you did and had any success there. I'm concerned that too much stress might have been put on the photo blocking capabilities and it may have lost its original purpose.
I dunno know. Try running with Veil polished shoes and see if you speed can be clocked!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirage
I've never actually tried such a test. :)
VG
Works just fine. That's my explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty
VG
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Originally Posted by Veil Guy
Bob this is not helping your cause. People are going to start thinking you are selling magic shoe polish. Without the magic. Do you have any idea what is going on? If not your first production run maybe your last.
:confusion:
The issue with G4 and I have not tested G5 yet is that its benefits were had at long range. For example without VEIL being clocked at 3800FT and G4 was able to reduce those ranges almost 50% and could have reduced PT range to lets say 1800ft. If you are on a 1000ft course you will not be able to see any benefit. Again I can only speak of G4 as I have not tested G5 yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Veil Guy
Unfortunately no, best I have is my Canon T4iQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirage
If that's the case, from a lidar perspective it will be completely worthless. Most lidar encounters occur at sub 1000ft. I have to say I'm disappointed if it has no effect at all. Even if it is still dark I have a black car and would have used it if it was effective.Quote:
Originally Posted by BestRadarDetectors
Yup, at ranges exceeding 2000' I imagine it could help, but heck, at >2000' you might as well be shooting the whole dang car because it's tiny in any viewfinder without an optical zoom! And all in all VG, I wanted it to work. I wanted it to help reduce acquisitions, but I just didn't see any benefit to it. I was going to ask hussein to let me put some on my truck after we tested, but (and I'm not trying to speak for him but...) the results made us both decide we'd be better off without it, knowing the potential for damage to the lights, and how poor it appeared with only two layers.Quote:
Originally Posted by BestRadarDetectors
I will not say however that it is a 'definitive' test, or that conditions were perfect, or any of that. It was fairly fresh on the car and relatively cold outside. That may have affected it, among other things.
I look forward to seeing other testers give it a go.
Thanks Jaguar and hussein for testing.... based on your testing...I will definitely see ZERO results on my full size pick up. Not that I want my front end to look like its dipped in mud anyhow.
Dukes : I was JTG/JFG to all guns last meet up after some tweaks, you can do it too with a quint :)
Oh yea! Me too! :D....I still want to add a 3rd head on the rear though for security!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaguar
Veil is a cool concept but if I put that stuff on my white license plate I'd likely be pulled over leaving my driveway.....
It was IPT @ 1100 feet. I will keep it until we meet again at the normal course and test at distances >1100 feet.
Here is side by side shots:
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Here is an encounter I had on my way back on I20E, about 1 minute after passing exit 26 to Liberty Rd / Villa Rica. As you can see, he or she was very close.
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Special thanks to Jaguar for meeting up to help test. Thanks also to all of you on the forums and meets who have helped get my knowledge where it is today. Thanks to Veil Guy for drop shipping my order from RR, without this, the test would not have been possible today.
VG, why does the vehicle matter? You mean they didn't use a C7 Vette with swept back headlights and no front plates? Shouldn't matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Veil Guy