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    Got a test course about 2000' near my house, will bring my t4i and shoot some pictures of applications too, also think I have a spare plate somewhere...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Got a test course about 2000' near my house, will bring my t4i and shoot some pictures of applications too, also think I have a spare plate somewhere...
    Look forward to your testing results.
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    What vehicle(s) did you use? What laser guns? Sounds like a thorough test.

    Shoot, maybe we sent you shoe polish by mistake.

    I suppose Tom must be relieved now that he's not selling shoe polish any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veil Guy View Post
    What vehicle(s) did you use? What laser guns? Sounds like a thorough test.

    Shoot, maybe we sent you shoe polish by mistake.

    I suppose Tom must be relieved now that he's not selling shoe polish any more.

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    Sorry Bob but is that all you have? No explanation or concern g5 is not working as advertised?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty View Post
    Sorry Bob but is that all you have? No explanation or concern g5 is not working as advertised?
    Works just fine. That's my explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veil Guy View Post
    Works just fine. That's my explanation.

    VG

    Bob this is not helping your cause. People are going to start thinking you are selling magic shoe polish. Without the magic. Do you have any idea what is going on? If not your first production run maybe your last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veil Guy View Post
    Works just fine. That's my explanation.

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    The issue with G4 and I have not tested G5 yet is that its benefits were had at long range. For example without VEIL being clocked at 3800FT and G4 was able to reduce those ranges almost 50% and could have reduced PT range to lets say 1800ft. If you are on a 1000ft course you will not be able to see any benefit. Again I can only speak of G4 as I have not tested G5 yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BestRadarDetectors View Post
    The issue with G4 and I have not tested G5 yet is that its benefits were had at long range. For example without VEIL being clocked at 3800FT and G4 was able to reduce those ranges almost 50% and could have reduced PT range to lets say 1800ft. If you are on a 1000ft course you will not be able to see any benefit. Again I can only speak of G4 as I have not tested G5 yet.
    If that's the case, from a lidar perspective it will be completely worthless. Most lidar encounters occur at sub 1000ft. I have to say I'm disappointed if it has no effect at all. Even if it is still dark I have a black car and would have used it if it was effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BestRadarDetectors View Post
    The issue with G4 and I have not tested G5 yet is that its benefits were had at long range. For example without VEIL being clocked at 3800FT and G4 was able to reduce those ranges almost 50% and could have reduced PT range to lets say 1800ft. If you are on a 1000ft course you will not be able to see any benefit. Again I can only speak of G4 as I have not tested G5 yet.
    Yup, at ranges exceeding 2000' I imagine it could help, but heck, at >2000' you might as well be shooting the whole dang car because it's tiny in any viewfinder without an optical zoom! And all in all VG, I wanted it to work. I wanted it to help reduce acquisitions, but I just didn't see any benefit to it. I was going to ask hussein to let me put some on my truck after we tested, but (and I'm not trying to speak for him but...) the results made us both decide we'd be better off without it, knowing the potential for damage to the lights, and how poor it appeared with only two layers.


    I will not say however that it is a 'definitive' test, or that conditions were perfect, or any of that. It was fairly fresh on the car and relatively cold outside. That may have affected it, among other things.

    I look forward to seeing other testers give it a go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    If that's the case, from a lidar perspective it will be completely worthless. Most lidar encounters occur at sub 1000ft. I have to say I'm disappointed if it has no effect at all. Even if it is still dark I have a black car and would have used it if it was effective.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Yup, at ranges exceeding 2000' I imagine it could help, but heck, at >2000' you might as well be shooting the whole dang car because it's tiny in any viewfinder without an optical zoom! And all in all VG, I wanted it to work. I wanted it to help reduce acquisitions, but I just didn't see any benefit to it. I was going to ask hussein to let me put some on my truck after we tested, but (and I'm not trying to speak for him but...) the results made us both decide we'd be better off without it, knowing the potential for damage to the lights, and how poor it appeared with only two layers.


    I will not say however that it is a 'definitive' test, or that conditions were perfect, or any of that. It was fairly fresh on the car and relatively cold outside. That may have affected it, among other things.

    I look forward to seeing other testers give it a go.
    This all begs the question then: I saw Bobs test back in the November introduction with RR AND IT " appeared" to work on the two C7s.
    Was there any testing before or after the introduction of the product to validate the claims that it works. VG, can you chime in here with your own test results??

    The good news is that vinegar appears to take it right off....

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