Anomaly encountered when loading identical Profiles, into two different ALP systems.

[modsl55amg]

I have two cars, Car 1 and Car 2.
Both cars have ALP systems installed in 2014. They are both Quints, with GPS and HiFi.
Both systems have:
CPU H/W version 2
Firmware version 5.2.1
Control Set Firmware version 5.3
Control Set Hardware version 2
Both systems were recently upgraded with the latest releases from ALP:
config.alp (containing Profiles A, B, C)
Uxxxxxxx.bin
ucsthifi.bin
voicepck.alp

Yesterday, after much reading and thought, I decided that I wanted the three Profiles to be exactly the same on each car's ALP system. I selected the specific settings for each of the three Profiles (A,B,C) on the ALP Configuration web page. I then Saved the Configuration, then loaded it on to an 8GB Verbatim flash drive, which had been formatted to FAT32. The flash drive had been successfully used in the past.

I then took the flash drive and loaded the new Configuration into Car 1's ALP system. I went through each Profile, A,B,C in order to verify that my setting selections on each of the three Profiles were exactly what I had selected. They were. I then loaded a Statistics and Use file, from the ALP system, on to another flash drive, in order to have a print out of exactly what is contained in each Profile. OK, so far.

I then took the exact same flash drive, which I had used to load the new Profiles into Car 1's ALP system, and loaded the Profiles into Car 2's ALP system. The load was "successful", as far as I could tell, until I went through the various settings on the three Profiles. I was greatly surprised to see quite a few differences between what was loaded on Car 1's ALP system, and what was loaded on Car 2's ALP system. I inserted the USB flash drive two more times in an effort to load the Configuration Profiles. I also printed out a Statistics and Use form for each system after the new Configuration Profiles, with the new settings, were loaded into the two ALP systems. The Statistics and Use printouts confirm that incorrect settings were loaded into Car 2's ALP system.

Some differences are:

Profile A:
Car 1 Pro Mode Enabled (Correct) Car 2 Pro Mode Disabled (Not Correct)
Car 1 LID Time Unlimited (Correct) Car 2 LID Time 5 seconds (Not Correct)
Car 1 Menu Button Short Press - None (Correct) Car 2 Menu Button Short Press - Parking (Not Correct)

Profle B:
Car 1 Silent Power Up Enabled (Correct) Car 2 Silent Power Up Disabled (Not Correct)
Car 1 Menu Button Short Press - None (Correct) Car 2 Menu Button Short Press - Parking (Not Correct)

Profile C:
Car 1 Audio Volume of Laser Alerts - 5 (Correct) Car 2 Audio Volume of Laser Alerts - 4 (Not Correct)
Car 1 Audio Volume of Radar Alerts - 5 (Correct) Car 2 Audio Volume of Radar Alerts - 4 (Not Correct)

There are a couple of settings, such as VoicePack Mode - Detailed, which are not shown on the Statistics and Use printouts, and, therefore, due to the incorrect settings that were loaded into Car 2's ALP system, I cannot be sure exactly what Mode I will hear alerts, until I can be tested again.

Once again, the exact same flash drive with three Profiles, A,B.C, was loaded into Car 1's ALP system, then taken and loaded into Car 2's ALP system. The results are that the settings on the three Profiles are correct for Car 1's ALP system, but there are some settings in Car 2's ALP system that are different from the Configuration Profiles Settings.

How can this happen? Does anyone have any thoughts about this situation?

I have not yet performed any in depth troubleshooting. I am going to load two different flash drives with my Configuration Profile Selections, and see if I can get the settings in Car 2 to be identical to the Configuration Profile Selections in Car 1, which are correct.

Question: "If" I am able to go into the ALP's manual settings mode, and I change a specific setting on, for example, Profile A, will that be the only Profile that will change, or will the setting also change on Profiles B and C?

I welcome any thoughts, information, advice, suggestions, etc.

Thanks in advance.

[BestRadarDetectors]

I have two cars, Car 1 and Car 2.
Both cars have ALP systems installed in 2014. They are both Quints, with GPS and HiFi.
Both systems have:
CPU H/W version 2
Firmware version 5.2.1
Control Set Firmware version 5.3
Control Set Hardware version 2
Both systems were recently upgraded with the latest releases from ALP:
config.alp (containing Profiles A, B, C)
Uxxxxxxx.bin
ucsthifi.bin
voicepck.alp

Yesterday, after much reading and thought, I decided that I wanted the three Profiles to be exactly the same on each car's ALP system. I selected the specific settings for each of the three Profiles (A,B,C) on the ALP Configuration web page. I then Saved the Configuration, then loaded it on to an 8GB Verbatim flash drive, which had been formatted to FAT32. The flash drive had been successfully used in the past.

I then took the flash drive and loaded the new Configuration into Car 1's ALP system. I went through each Profile, A,B,C in order to verify that my setting selections on each of the three Profiles were exactly what I had selected. They were. I then loaded a Statistics and Use file, from the ALP system, on to another flash drive, in order to have a print out of exactly what is contained in each Profile. OK, so far.

I then took the exact same flash drive, which I had used to load the new Profiles into Car 1's ALP system, and loaded the Profiles into Car 2's ALP system. The load was "successful", as far as I could tell, until I went through the various settings on the three Profiles. I was greatly surprised to see quite a few differences between what was loaded on Car 1's ALP system, and what was loaded on Car 2's ALP system. I inserted the USB flash drive two more times in an effort to load the Configuration Profiles. I also printed out a Statistics and Use form for each system after the new Configuration Profiles, with the new settings, were loaded into the two ALP systems. The Statistics and Use printouts confirm that incorrect settings were loaded into Car 2's ALP system.

Some differences are:

Profile A:
Car 1 Pro Mode Enabled (Correct) Car 2 Pro Mode Disabled (Not Correct)
Car 1 LID Time Unlimited (Correct) Car 2 LID Time 5 seconds (Not Correct)
Car 1 Menu Button Short Press - None (Correct) Car 2 Menu Button Short Press - Parking (Not Correct)

Profle B:
Car 1 Silent Power Up Enabled (Correct) Car 2 Silent Power Up Disabled (Not Correct)
Car 1 Menu Button Short Press - None (Correct) Car 2 Menu Button Short Press - Parking (Not Correct)

Profile C:
Car 1 Audio Volume of Laser Alerts - 5 (Correct) Car 2 Audio Volume of Laser Alerts - 4 (Not Correct)
Car 1 Audio Volume of Radar Alerts - 5 (Correct) Car 2 Audio Volume of Radar Alerts - 4 (Not Correct)

There are a couple of settings, such as VoicePack Mode - Detailed, which are not shown on the Statistics and Use printouts, and, therefore, due to the incorrect settings that were loaded into Car 2's ALP system, I cannot be sure exactly what Mode I will hear alerts, until I can be tested again.

Once again, the exact same flash drive with three Profiles, A,B.C, was loaded into Car 1's ALP system, then taken and loaded into Car 2's ALP system. The results are that the settings on the three Profiles are correct for Car 1's ALP system, but there are some settings in Car 2's ALP system that are different from the Configuration Profiles Settings.

How can this happen? Does anyone have any thoughts about this situation?

I have not yet performed any in depth troubleshooting. I am going to load two different flash drives with my Configuration Profile Selections, and see if I can get the settings in Car 2 to be identical to the Configuration Profile Selections in Car 1, which are correct.

Question: "If" I am able to go into the ALP's manual settings mode, and I change a specific setting on, for example, Profile A, will that be the only Profile that will change, or will the setting also change on Profiles B and C?

I welcome any thoughts, information, advice, suggestions, etc.

Thanks in advance.

You pulled a statistics file which creates a new Stats & Config file on the drive with the current settings. If you want to load the same config file just create a config file and load it on each system without doing anything else and reboot each system after the load.

[radargeek]

I thought it writes out a separate STATS.ALP file now when you pull statistics? Does it overwrite the CONFIG.ALP as well? Even if it did, shouldn't the overwritten file contain the same settings (assuming you didn't change any settings manually on the unit)?

Anyway, I would try what BRD suggested. Copy a fresh config.alp to your USB and then put it into each unit without doing anything else, then check the settings afterward.

I'll try on mine later. I'll pull statistics onto an empty USB drive and see if it writes out a config.alp as well, and then compare to my original.

[BestRadarDetectors]

I thought it writes out a separate STATS.ALP file now when you pull statistics? Does it overwrite the CONFIG.ALP as well? Even if it did, shouldn't the overwritten file contain the same settings (assuming you didn't change any settings manually on the unit)?

Anyway, I would try what BRD suggested. Copy a fresh config.alp to your USB and then put it into each unit without doing anything else, then check the settings afterward.

I'll try on mine later. I'll pull statistics onto an empty USB drive and see if it writes out a config.alp as well, and then compare to my original.

It writes both a Stats file and a Config file so we can get the Stats and also a copy of the loaded config file if needed for support.

[modsl55amg]

You pulled a statistics file which creates a new Stats & Config file on the drive with the current settings. If you want to load the same config file just create a config file and load it on each system without doing anything else and reboot each system after the load.

BRD: What you have suggested that I do, is exactly what I did.
A properly formatted USB flash drive contained only the three new Profiles.
I inserted the flash drive into system of car 1, loaded the system, turned system off, then turned system on. All OK on that system.
I then inserted the exact same flash drive into car 2, a few minutes later, loaded the system, turned system off, then turned system on. Anomalies existed.
I then took another properly formatted flash drive and downloaded a Statistics and Use file from Car 1's system. All settings correct, per printout.
I then formatted that flash drive and downloaded a Statistics and Use file from Car 2's system. Anomalies were shown on the printout.
I compared the printout from Car 2, to the printout from Car 1, and from the printouts of the three Configuration Profiles that I had originally generated.
Printout from Car 1 was identical to printouts of the three original Profiles I selected.
Printout from Car 2 had anomalies from printout of Car 1 and the printout of the three original Profiles I selected.
Even without the printout from Car 2's system, I could see that there were discrepencies between the Profiles I generated and what was in Car 2's system.

BRD, I have not yet done so, but, if I manually change a setting in a particular Profile, say Profile A, does the manually changed setting only pertain to Profile A, or will the manual change also affect the same setting in Profile B and Profile C?

Thanks!

[modsl55amg]

I thought it writes out a separate STATS.ALP file now when you pull statistics? Does it overwrite the CONFIG.ALP as well? Even if it did, shouldn't the overwritten file contain the same settings (assuming you didn't change any settings manually on the unit)?

Anyway, I would try what BRD suggested. Copy a fresh config.alp to your USB and then put it into each unit without doing anything else, then check the settings afterward.

I'll try on mine later. I'll pull statistics onto an empty USB drive and see if it writes out a config.alp as well, and then compare to my original.

radargeek: Please take a look at my reply, above, to BRD. It may better explain the exact steps I took in performing the loading of new Profiles into the two ALP systems, as well as what I did to obtain a Statistics and Use printout for both systems after the new Profiles were loaded.

I have not manually reconfigured either one of the two ALP systems.

From what I remember seeing on my laptop after inserting the flash drive with the Statistics and Use files on it, which were obtained after I had loaded both systems, there were two files: a Statistics file which contained the three Profiles, the Device Information, and the Alerts by Source information. I printed this file out for each car.

The second file that was automatically loaded onto the flash drive was a Configuration file, which only contained the three Profiles, but no Alerts by Source information.

I used the exact same flash drive, which contained the three new Profiles, to load the systems on both cars, Car 1 first, then, a few minutes later, Car 2. Nothing else was/is on that flash drive. The flash drive I used to obtain the Statistics and Use information from the ALP system in each car was a different flash drive. I still have the flash drive with the original three new Profiles still on it. Nothing else has been placed on that flash drive.

I think I am going to generate a new file, containing the exact same Profiles and settings on another properly formatted flash drive. I will duplicate the exact settings and Profiles that I have on Car 1. I will download it into ALP system on Car 2, and see if the system correctly accepts all of the settings in all three Profiles. I'll write and advise what takes place after the load is complete.

Thanks for your reply!

[BestRadarDetectors]

BRD: What you have suggested that I do, is exactly what I did.
A properly formatted USB flash drive contained only the three new Profiles.
I inserted the flash drive into system of car 1, loaded the system, turned system off, then turned system on. All OK on that system.
I then inserted the exact same flash drive into car 2, a few minutes later, loaded the system, turned system off, then turned system on. Anomalies existed.
I then took another properly formatted flash drive and downloaded a Statistics and Use file from Car 1's system. All settings correct, per printout.
I then formatted that flash drive and downloaded a Statistics and Use file from Car 2's system. Anomalies were shown on the printout.
I compared the printout from Car 2, to the printout from Car 1, and from the printouts of the three Configuration Profiles that I had originally generated.
Printout from Car 1 was identical to printouts of the three original Profiles I selected.
Printout from Car 2 had anomalies from printout of Car 1 and the printout of the three original Profiles I selected.
Even without the printout from Car 2's system, I could see that there were discrepencies between the Profiles I generated and what was in Car 2's system.

BRD, I have not yet done so, but, if I manually change a setting in a particular Profile, say Profile A, does the manually changed setting only pertain to Profile A, or will the manual change also affect the same setting in Profile B and Profile C?

Thanks!

Insert the config file let it load and then turn it off and back on and you will be fine.

[LI2624]

Not trying to hijack the thread, but while on the subject of anomalies, I turned on the car the other day - ALP went through its boot up process, but the light stayed green for a good 30 -60 seconds before turning blue. Is this normal? I don't ever recall it taking so long for the LED to turn blue. Could it be the cold weather? First time it happened, I was ready to put in the USB, because it was green for so long, and as I was ready to put it in, it turned blue.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Not trying to hijack the thread, but while on the subject of anomalies, I turned on the car the other day - ALP went through its boot up process, but the light stayed green for a good 30 -60 seconds before turning blue. Is this normal? I don't ever recall it taking so long for the LED to turn blue. Could it be the cold weather? First time it happened, I was ready to put in the USB, because it was green for so long, and as I was ready to put it in, it turned blue.

The default if you do not have the Skip First Warm-up option enabled is a 60 second warm-up period before it goes into defense mode.

[modsl55amg]

Insert the config file let it load and then turn it off and back on and you will be fine.

BRD: OK, I'll give it a try, as you advise, and see what happens.