HiFi Control Set Pad Doesn't Like The Heat

[tawwwd]

Working temperature: -20°C to +60°C (-4°F to 140°F) is the rated working temp on almost ALL electronics. You would have to source some specialized parts (if they exist for what the control pad uses) to go colder/hotter.

[awj223]

Working temperature: -20°C to +60°C (-4°F to 140°F) is the rated working temp on almost ALL electronics. You would have to source some specialized parts (if they exist for what the control pad uses) to go colder/hotter.

I thought automotive is supposed to go higher...much higher.
http://www.aecouncil.com/Documents/A...e_Document.pdf

The 4 grades for automotive electronics are on page 9 of the PDF, which is marked "page 3 of 42". This isn't something that's designed to be installed in the engine compartment, but even grade 3 goes up to 85°C or or 185°F.

I am concerned about what's going to happen if you're parked in Las Vegas or Phoenix during the summer. Even if the control set is installed in a shaded location, the interior temperature of a car can easily be 30°F warmer than the ambient temperature, and the ambient temperature in those areas can get up to 115-120°F.

[BestRadarDetectors]

I thought automotive is supposed to go higher...much higher.
http://www.aecouncil.com/Documents/A...e_Document.pdf

The 4 grades for automotive electronics are on page 9 of the PDF, which is marked "page 3 of 42". This isn't something that's designed to be installed in the engine compartment, but even grade 3 goes up to 85°C or or 185°F.

I am concerned about what's going to happen if you're parked in Las Vegas or Phoenix during the summer. Even if the control set is installed in a shaded location, the interior temperature of a car can easily be 30°F warmer than the ambient temperature, and the ambient temperature in those areas can get up to 115-120°F.

To protect itself it will not turn on if its components are too hot. The HiFi Controller unlike the regular controller also has an amplifier in the small controller. There is a lot of parts in that small controller.

[tawwwd]

I thought automotive is supposed to go higher...much higher.
http://www.aecouncil.com/Documents/A...e_Document.pdf

The 4 grades for automotive electronics are on page 9 of the PDF, which is marked "page 3 of 42". This isn't something that's designed to be installed in the engine compartment, but even grade 3 goes up to 85°C or or 185°F.

I am concerned about what's going to happen if you're parked in Las Vegas or Phoenix during the summer. Even if the control set is installed in a shaded location, the interior temperature of a car can easily be 30°F warmer than the ambient temperature, and the ambient temperature in those areas can get up to 115-120°F.

Its not an automotive part by any means. It would fall under commerical electronics and a lower rating.

For example - people with Iphone's in Canada or northern US can probably relate to this, once its colder than -15C outside the Iphone will shut itself off and say "temp too low to operate"

[awj223]

Its not an automotive part by any means. It would fall under commerical electronics and a lower rating.

For example - people with Iphone's in Canada or northern US can probably relate to this, once its colder than -15C outside the Iphone will shut itself off and say "temp too low to operate"

Do car radios, car alarms, and other types of electronics designed to be installed in cars fall under the "automotive parts" category, or is that only for stuff that goes under the hood?

[radargeek]

Do car radios, car alarms, and other types of electronics designed to be installed in cars fall under the "automotive parts" category, or is that only for stuff that goes under the hood?

I don't think things like the radio have to be automotive rated like the components under the hood, but they should still be designed to withstand the environmental extremes that occur in the car's cabin. After all, you wouldn't want your radio to not work when the cabin is too hot or too cold, right?

Since the ALP is designed for use in a car, and the major components are generally installed in the cabin, they should be rated similarly to other car cabin electronics. RDs too. The V1 for example is designed to operate from -20˚C to +70˚C.

[tawwwd]

Do car radios, car alarms, and other types of electronics designed to be installed in cars fall under the "automotive parts" category, or is that only for stuff that goes under the hood?

No. Auto parts would be OEM electronics.

Car alarms etc just because they have the word car in it doesnt make it an automotive electronic. Its no different then a dvd player or a cell phone would be made.

[adam]

Mine doesn't even get that far. The external LED turns on (green), then switches off. The control set LED never lights up at all. If I try to force the ALP to turn back on (by holding down the POWER button), both LEDs flash red the way they do when it is manually powered down. Only after power is completely removed (by turning the key to the OFF position) and the control set cools down will the ALP boot properly.

This exact same thing is starting to happen with me. Very frustrating. I live in North Alberta where our "hot" days are like 25-30C (77-85) and the first time this happened I didnt even realize it until I passed under a dragoneye trap in Edmonton.

[awj223]

Keep it out of direct sunlight and it'll be fine most of the time. Mine's been fine since I started using the sunshade, although I haven't had a chance to see what happens if it's 35-40°C outside, because California has been stuck in a cool weather pattern for the last 3 weeks or so.

[BestRadarDetectors]

If anyone experiences this issue with the HiFi Module please let me know. Those that already informed me I have already packaged replacements which are shipping tomorrow.