RALETC Official Results of Veil G5 - Testing - Part 2

[Mirage]

After waiting for almost two months to test Veil G5 we were finally able to test on a vehicle. No we didn't go crazy and test it on a white F-450, but we did use my Camaro ZL1 as we already knew how it performs in the real world and knew it to be a bit stealthy by itself. In the test we used a Truspeed Sxb and a DragonEye Speed Lidar AND both of these guns are less than six months old. We provided each gun with a fresh set of batteries on the morning of the test. As we told you we wanted to show you from the officers perspective exactly what he might see if Veil G5 was on a vehicle and determine if Veil G5 was able to defeat today's current lidar guns.

Our baseline was established against the unveiled ZL1 both on the incoming and outgoing side as we wanted to demonstrate the "stealthy" nature of the car. The test course is approximately 2400 ft and has a side street at approximately 2100 ft. The Truspeed Sxb has a maximum distance of 2000 ft so we knew we would be on the edge of it's capabilities. On the rear of the vehicle we were able to get a 1986 ft baseline very close to the limit of the TSSxb, but on the front of the vehicle the best we could get was 1729 ft. This alone proves the Camaro as a good candidate for a fair test of G5 as it would represent the best case scenario with respect to reflectivity. Keep in mind though we are running the guns tripod mounted and that makes it very difficult for a jammer or stealth coating to perform optimially as the movements of the operator in non tripod mounted cases can sometimes prevent a speed reading by themselves thereby improving results. Regardless this approach is the same approach used when we test jammers, and if the product performs well under these conditions it will certainly perform well in real world conditions.

It has been said that only a small amount of Veil was required to get good performance so we set out to first apply a single coat of G5 to the head lights and fog lights of the ZL1. This is case 1 and is demonstrated in runs 1 and 2. In this case, we masked off the turn signal indicators, the chrome outlined Chevrolet logo, and the ZL1 badge and then applied G5 over the top of the painters tape to ensure we reduced as much of the reflections from these parts as we possibly could. The application of G5 to the head light was very smooth and looked really nice on the vehicle. After running this for a day it doesn't appear to have reduced the intensity of the head lights at all.





In runs 3 and 4 we went back and applied painters tape to ALL flat portions of the front of the vehicle and then coated the tape with Veil G5. The vehicle looked like one of those prototype testing vehicles you see the spy shots of from Car and Driver. The purpose was to reduce as much of the reflections from these parts as possible to ensure at distance we were not getting reflections from other parts of the vehicle. We also encountered some odd results in runs 1 & 2 and wanted to see if the problem persisted in the fully veiled vehicle.








We did do a box opening video and showed the unopened container of Veil G5, the 2 foam brushes that came with it, and the instructions. I'm sure at this point you don't want to see us shake the Veil G5 can, or read the instruction on video so at this point we will just give you the results and let you be the judge.







Discussion

Couple of things to note:

1. The TSSxb was producing 0 mile per hour readings in excess of 1500 ft. I would have to conclude that Veil was causing this because we did not get these during the baseline runs.
2. The DragonEye did not report zero MPH, but it also did not report anything during the test when the distance was above 1700 ft. The DESL performed much better than the TSSxb, but this gun is also rated at 6000 ft.
3. Veil G5 does appear to work, but not at common enforceable distances (i.e. sub 1000 ft). This may also be due to the guns being used as they are extremely new purchased within the last 6 months. In tests run by Veil Guy the guns used were a Stalker LZ1, Ultralyte LRB, and other older guns. It's quite possible that these guns do not have the caliber of optics that these newer guns have.

Regardless, you can see the results for yourself and come to your own conclusions. If you have any questions about the tests please let me know....

Thanks,

Mirage

Run	Distance	Diff	Comment
Baseline	1729.9		BASELINE Front
1	1326	403.9	Veil G5 on Head Lights and Fog Lights ONLY (Plus Logo, Badge, and Turn Signals)
2	1591.5	138.4	Veil G5 on Head Lights and Fog Lights ONLY (Plus Logo, Badge, and Turn Signals)
3	1238.9	491	Veil G5 on Bumpers and Head Lights
4	1662	67.9	DragonEye Speed Lidar Run - G5 on Bumper and Head lights

So with a single coat of Veil on the head lights and fog lights anything less than 1300 ft was IPT on the TSSxb. On the full coverage runs anything under 1200 ft was IPT on the TSSxb
Veil G5 had little to no effect on the DragonEye Speed Lidar.