RALETC Official Results of Veil G5 - Testing - Part 2

[The Only Sarge]

Based on the installation, the model of jammer and car, I normally should have gotten some PTs. Also from he feedback I was getting from the lidars I can say with certainty that Vei G4l greatly improved the performace on that vehicle. Will G5 have the same performance as G4, I do not know. If I was Fox in the Hole, I wouldn't remove the G4 unless he wants greater output from his headlights.

I hear what your saying YC.......
But I see performance of IPT on FitH car (with Veil) on one gun and jamming going on the non Veil car.....this is where I am struggling....passive should work and be consistent in testing. Much more consistent than active solutions with so many outside influences ie alignment, angles etc. I just do not see that....I see inconsistencies as shown in Mirages test results spreadsheet that shouldnt be there if the passive solution was working.
I also see a HUD of Mirage and his Camaro JTG with an older LI and no Veil. So the variable cannot be attributed to A) Car with Veil B) Car with no Veil but more with the active solution inconsistency IMHO.

[Tman]

'' passive should work and be consistent in testing.''

I blame the glossiness for the inconsistency, left is banana stuff , right is original Veil

[tawwwd]

Can we do a retest with Tmans goop slathered all over the camaro? That stuff seems way better!

[Mirage]

That is a product that looks like it really works well even against the full power of the lidar up close and personal. Really nice tman.

We need to talk.

[hussein]

'' passive should work and be consistent in testing.''

I blame the glossiness for the inconsistency, left is banana stuff , right is original Veil

Can someone please explain where the delineation is? Thanks!

[Tman]

Do you mean where each stuff is placed ?


'' Can someone please explain where the delineation is? Thanks! ''

[The Only Sarge]

I think your on to something there Tman.......
The glossiness of Veil definitely connects the dots in the engineer side of my brain and could be an answer to the inconsistent nature of Veil.
This falls into my theory of reflectivity. You can call it glossiness I will call it reflectivity and we both are having a raging agreement.
I will hold off calling the guys about your statue in front of the office but I do think your on the right path.
Great job....you photo speaks volumes......

[The Only Sarge]

Is this the stuff Tman?
http://www.homedepot.com/p/DecoArt-A...-204660551-_-N

I think between my headlight armor (doesnt reduce output but kills reflectivity) and this stuff on all the chrome one would SIGNIFICANTLY reduce reflectivity and not draw attention to yourself. I have some spare license plates (Texas) and am going to pick some the clear stuff @ Home Depot today......I will then shoot my IR Laser at it and see what I get.....

Bottom line is to kill reflectivity.....License Plate, Chrome, Headlights. Then test.

[Tman]

I use Mod Podge Mat , waterbase sealer,glue & finish from Plaid.It has one drawback : when very wet it turns whiteish (under rain) ,then returns clear when dry . Anyway it is easy to remove with alcool\methanol.

No Sarge , i dont know this one.

Chalk finish should kill pretty well reflectivity.

Is this the stuff Tman?
http://www.homedepot.com/p/DecoArt-A...-204660551-_-N

I think between my headlight armor (doesnt reduce output but kills reflectivity) and this stuff on all the chrome one would SIGNIFICANTLY reduce reflectivity and not draw attention to yourself. I have some spare license plates (Texas) and am going to pick some the clear stuff @ Home Depot today......I will then shoot my IR Laser at it and see what I get.....

Bottom line is to kill reflectivity.....License Plate, Chrome, Headlights. Then test.

[NYSpeederPVM]

Bullshit. I don't care how cheap a product is. If it doesn't do shit, it's not a bargain.

That's the thing, I'm still not convinced it doesn't do anything at all. Now, did I ever think for two seconds it would stand alone against laser? No way. But, I am pretty sure when it's behind a nice set of jammers, it makes them work even better.

Now, if veil guy is claiming it stands on its own, that's bs for sure, but I feel like I'm seeing pitchforks and torches in this thread when really we still don't know for sure that it does absolutely zero. Close to zero maybe but when the discussion is among a group of people that want every advantage possible I still think veil has the possibility of adding to a "layered" setup. And again 100 is a drop in the bucket for some people's setups.