RALETC Official Results of Veil G5 Testing - Part 1

[Mirage]

This is what i would expect from a commercial product advertised as IR absorber

This is also closer to the color everyone is looking for too. I don't mind a slight tint (maybe not yellow), but it needs to be mostly transparent to be effective as a passive counter measure.

What I see is the claims of a "light coat" and laser protection are totally bogus.
If it takes numerous coats (to get even a small result) the average guy is never going to smear that much crap on his car. Might as well smear peanut butter on your car and get the same results with less attention than driving around with smeared up blacked out lights.
I mean what happened to JTG with the Dragon Eye that was claimed after just a "light coat" and the Dragon Slayer comment? Impossible and your evaluation proves it.
Further....now G5 is being "walked back" from being used on the license plate. So that pretty much leaves you with only the headlights being available to smear.
Oh well...................

After reviewing the video it wasn't JTG with the Dragon Eye albeit the numbers for all intensive purposes were awfully close to JTG. JTG was never officially stated and I was corrected on that. The point is VG wasn't lying... it is absorbing lidar it's just going to take too much product to get to an acceptable level of absorption that will leave most not willing to use it. I mean seriously if I could get the look of the single coat on the head light and have the 5 coat performance or close to it. I would be putting this all over my car. I thought that was an unrealistic goal until @Tman's post. He shows that it could be done... Now peanut butter might be a stretch, but it would certainly smell better!

[The Only Sarge]

This is also closer to the color everyone is looking for too. I don't mind a slight tint (maybe not yellow), but it needs to be mostly transparent to be effective as a passive counter measure.



After reviewing the video it wasn't JTG with the Dragon Eye albeit the numbers for all intensive purposes were awfully close to JTG. JTG was never officially stated and I was corrected on that. The point is VG wasn't lying... it is absorbing lidar it's just going to take too much product to get to an acceptable level of absorption that will leave most not willing to use it. I mean seriously if I could get the look of the single coat on the head light and have the 5 coat performance or close to it. I would be putting this all over my car. I thought that was an unrealistic goal until @Tman's post. He shows that it could be done... Now peanut butter might be a stretch, but it would certainly smell better!

LOL....Ok needles and pins. Dragon Slayer, light coat, countermeasure "depth" on and on and on.....truth is you cannot put this on your license plate....the number one target for most of us.....and you have to disfigure your car to even get the slightest advantage. Again....I maintain it is no better in providing LIDAR protection than PB/BBQ Sauce, etc. Smear enough of those products on your headlights eventually you will get some lidar "absorption".....equal to or greater than Veil.

Any counter measure solution should not draw attention to itself. Blacked out headlights smeared with Carbon is going to draw plenty of attention. And for what? Apparently not enough to justify disfiguring your car for sure.