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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    So basically you are saying you want us to think of this as a whole defense system where jammers, Veil, and other CM's are combined. That really doesn't show what your product can do, but I suppose that is the intent. Just sell as much as you can while people believe it is helping them when they need it most. BTW the ALP system is way more than 83% effective when installed properly. I'll put my car and my ALP up against anyone and I will yield greater than 83% ALL DAY LONG.
    I am happy to hear that. It's just on RALETC's website, the highest number I've seen posted is 83% and that was on RR's three headed vehicle. Am I missing something here? How many vehicles have you tested where jammers WEREN'T installed properly? Out of level or mis-pointing? Generally during these meets, I see people making corrections and repositioning. So have many who have them installed and do not have the benefit of attending one of these events is driving around with optimal setups? Does that lead to a false sense of security for them?

    I have repeatedly asked for tests showing baselines, jammers, jammers+veil and have yet to see one. Defense in depth is always the best approach and in the case of jammers, if performance numbers are shown to improve, then it will be very clear what supplementation of passives can do. I believe YC posted here something to that effect although I don't believe it was in a "public" thread. Too bad too, because it was a terrific post that could be every informative for everyone new to the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veil Guy View Post
    I am happy to hear that. It's just on RALETC's website, the highest number I've seen posted is 83% and that was on RR's three headed vehicle. Am I missing something here? How many vehicles have you tested where jammers WEREN'T installed properly? Out of level or mis-pointing? Generally during these meets, I see people making corrections and repositioning. So have many who have them installed and do not have the benefit of attending one of these events is driving around with optimal setups? Does that lead to a false sense of security for them?

    I have repeatedly asked for tests showing baselines, jammers, jammers+veil and have yet to see one. Defense in depth is always the best approach and in the case of jammers, if performance numbers are shown to improve, then it will be very clear what supplementation of passives can do. I believe YC posted here something to that effect although I don't believe it was in a "public" thread. Too bad too, because it was a terrific post that could be every informative for everyone new to the game.

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    You are talking about user installed tests. NOT controlled tests there is a very big differentiation here. I agree with YC's defense in depth assessment, but when the product does nothing at effective distances what's the point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    You are talking about user installed tests. NOT controlled tests there is a very big differentiation here. I agree with YC's defense in depth assessment, but when the product does nothing at effective distances what's the point?
    I disagree with your assertion. There are plenty of examples where this has proven to be true Mirage. Here's just one.



    Happy called that a stealth to gun. It was on his blue altima I believe.

    You doubt me, ask him, he was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veil Guy View Post
    I disagree with your assertion. There are plenty of examples where this has proven to be true Mirage. Her's just one.



    Happy called that a stealth to gun. It was on his blue altima I believe.

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    This proves nothing. To me, it shows the LI's jamming. The V1 continues to alert due to how close it is to the lidar source. If you pause right before he passes the cop, you can see the cop has already moved on to the next car, yet the V1 is still alerting due to it's unreal lidar sensitivity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veil Guy View Post
    I disagree with your assertion. There are plenty of examples where this has proven to be true Mirage. Her's just one.

    Happy called that a stealth to gun. It was on his blue altima I believe.

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    WHAT!!!?!?! You did hear the LI in the background right? This is what you are passing as proof that Veil works? You're in deep trouble my friend.

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