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    Greetings from NYC

    Hi all --

    Thought I'd introduce myself per Tom's suggestion. I am a criminal defense attorney in NYC and aside from being interested in the subject matter myself, I've been seeing more cases involving laser jammers with clients (everything from run of the mill traffic stops gone very wrong to alleged large scale organizations), so Ive joined the board to learn a little more about the state of the technology.

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    Welcome to the forum. This is the best place to get unbiased information on "parking sensors". I'm surprised that you're running into this as part of your defense practice..........they're not illegal in New York. Are you admitted to the bar in more than one state (or trying cases in federal court?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by curmudgeon View Post
    I'm surprised that you're running into this as part of your defense practice..........they're not illegal in New York. Are you admitted to the bar in more than one state (or trying cases in federal court?)
    Thanks guys! As far as the jammers, it's not their legality, per se, but the interactions with police officers after spotting them on vehicles and using them as the basis for further investigation during a stop. It's crazy -- and isnt propper grounds for a search or further investigation -- but it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbeinhor View Post
    Thanks guys! As far as the jammers, it's not their legality, per se, but the interactions with police officers after spotting them on vehicles and using them as the basis for further investigation during a stop. It's crazy -- and isnt propper grounds for a search or further investigation -- but it happens.
    Counselor to Counselor. How is using a legal jammer a "basis" for further investigation on a stop. Basis for what??? I'd be filing motions to suppress on all of those stops since there's no statutory or constitutional basis for the search. OH, and they are NOT jammers BTW, they are parking sensors for tight spots in the streets and also in the garage.

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    Welcome aboard. Laser jammers are illegal in California, but they are under "equipment violation" status, so no one gets a moving or "driver license point worthy" citation. We've actually tested attorney's cars so equipped...
    Go ahead, make my day.

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    Hi Guy -
    Welcome to RALF.

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    welcome from Australia

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    I'm new too.. But a hearty welcome to you and I am interested to learn more about any legal aspect you can present or inform us about. Understanding of course that every state is different, but the principles of legal search and justification, I would assume, are closely the same.

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    Welcome to the forum.

    It would be very helpful to hear about case law that you use in defense of illegal stops and or seizures. Also, any advice that you might want offer in regards to fighting these types of stops and related le interactions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJR1300 View Post
    Welcome to the forum.

    It would be very helpful to hear about case law that you use in defense of illegal stops and or seizures. Also, any advice that you might want offer in regards to fighting these types of stops and related le interactions.
    I'm actually more interested in hearing what bs the cops are claiming to justify jammers being a cause for searches. (obviously without compromising any cases you are involved in, ethically or tactically)

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