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    Welcome to the forum. Some good sound advice has already been given above. Feel free to ask more questions.

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    Welcome to the forum. I can't say much different than what has been said already. A good radar detector first with waze or Escort live, I use both sometimes. And once you get that then save up for ALP. I have 3 in front of my truck and one in the rear until I can buy another one for the rear to complete the rear protection.

    I, like you, spent the last 8 years not believing in laser jammers because to many fail to protect you from most lasers and new guns came out so frequently that it was a waste of money. That was until ALPriority came out and I spent 11 months following the results and finally a few months ago I was convinced that this is what I have been waiting for and pulled the trigger To "invest" in them because they where updatable for newer guns in a short time frame !!! ALP will lead the market for many years to come if they continue as they have been by keeping us updated once we own their product with firmware updates to protect us from new threats. Because of this, I have recommended them to many friends.

    Sorry for long posting but I understand how you feel about not believing parking sensors really works. Trust ALP after you get a good RD.
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    Welcome from Alaska!


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    Funny thing I forgot to mention which is kind of ironic. I used to do electronic countermeasures (Electronic Warfare - 328x3) while in the US AF. I know the principles, I know techniques and I saw them save pilots lives. I just never thought you could take that military grade technology and port it to a consumer grade product that would actually work. Shame on me.

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    Thanks everyone for the great advice so quickly! I guess my first investment will be in a good RD.

    A couple of quick questions:

    1. With my mid-size 535xi, will 3 ALP heads fit on the front of my car? I have only seen two head setups. It would make sense that 3 would be better than 2 (with my limited knowledge) but I haven't seen it.
    2. Does anybody have a link to a pictorial (or video) installation for a 5 Series BMW? I searched but could not find much.
    3. Does anybody have a reputable installer for Maryland (Annapolis) area? If not, maybe a number to call or a link of certified installers? It's a big investment and I am not sure I trust my technical abilities

    Thanks again everybody for the great advise and lightning fast responses. I think I am really going to like it here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TShoot View Post
    Thanks everyone for the great advice so quickly! I guess my first investment will be in a good RD.

    A couple of quick questions:

    1. With my mid-size 535xi, will 3 ALP heads fit on the front of my car? I have only seen two head setups. It would make sense that 3 would be better than 2 (with my limited knowledge) but I haven't seen it.
    2. Does anybody have a link to a pictorial (or video) installation for a 5 Series BMW? I searched but could not find much.
    3. Does anybody have a reputable installer for Maryland (Annapolis) area? If not, maybe a number to call or a link of certified installers? It's a big investment and I am not sure I trust my technical abilities

    Thanks again everybody for the great advise and lightning fast responses. I think I am really going to like it here!
    First off welcome
    1. It would make sense a three head setup would be stronger than a two head setup, that said I think three for a standard passenger car is overkill, I have a Subaru which is obviously a little smaller but is bullet proof so far to any gun tested with it including a Stalker LZ1.
    I was considering adding a third head to the front but came to the conclusion it was a waste of money, that said if a reason comes up to add one, I will do it in a heartbeat, but I am not that sure three make a huge difference even for DALA. Just take the time to make sure you have positioned your heads right and aligned correctly.
    2. Nope.
    3. I think any car stereo installer can put it in for you, but I wouldn't trust anyone but other CM enthusiasts to help get get positioning and alignment correct, I would just get them to install the CPU, pull cables through front and rear then decide where you want the heads yourself.

    At the end of all that make sure you get tested with more than one type of LIDAR gun.

    So far my setup has saved me a few times, the traffic boys here are a little like the SS, so anything more than a couple of KM/H over they stop you, I've been 30 over a few times yet still no ticket. As long as you JTK you will be fine without attracting unwanted attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragons View Post
    First off welcome
    1. It would make sense a three head setup would be stronger than a two head setup, that said I think three for a standard passenger car is overkill, I have a Subaru which is obviously a little smaller but is bullet proof so far to any gun tested with it including a Stalker LZ1.
    I was considering adding a third head to the front but came to the conclusion it was a waste of money, that said if a reason comes up to add one, I will do it in a heartbeat, but I am not that sure three make a huge difference even for DALA. Just take the time to make sure you have positioned your heads right and aligned correctly.
    2. Nope.
    3. I think any car stereo installer can put it in for you, but I wouldn't trust anyone but other CM enthusiasts to help get get positioning and alignment correct, I would just get them to install the CPU, pull cables through front and rear then decide where you want the heads yourself.

    At the end of all that make sure you get tested with more than one type of LIDAR gun.

    So far my setup has saved me a few times, the traffic boys here are a little like the SS, so anything more than a couple of KM/H over they stop you, I've been 30 over a few times yet still no ticket. As long as you JTK you will be fine without attracting unwanted attention.
    I have to disagree with you about the DALA. During the last RALETC meet I was shooting a compact. The 3 heads on my car jammed it. The 2 heads on specifics car I was able to get PT's over a 1000'. He has a passenger car. In TShoot's area the Compact is used. If he is going to jump in, He should jump in fully. Why get 2 heads and months from now get tagged by the compact and regret not getting the 3rd head? It seems like a no brainer to me.

    As far as the install, I highly recommend getting an overall kill switch. I love mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RigToFly01 View Post
    I have to disagree with you about the DALA. During the last RALETC meet I was shooting a compact. The 3 heads on my car jammed it. The 2 heads on specifics car I was able to get PT's over a 1000'. He has a passenger car. In TShoot's area the Compact is used. If he is going to jump in, He should jump in fully. Why get 2 heads and months from now get tagged by the compact and regret not getting the 3rd head? It seems like a no brainer to me.

    As far as the install, I highly recommend getting an overall kill switch. I love mine.
    One thing I learnt really quickly with jammers is how important head angle is a degree or two makes a HUGE difference at least to my own setup, made the difference between JTG and PT's which makes me wonder if in the case you are talking about a little experimentation with head angle would make.
    I would love to test this myself if I could lay my hands on a DALA of some description.

    Please don't get me wrong, I am by no means saying you are wrong, only suggesting a little bit of experimentation might achieve a much better result.

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    Wow, awesome info - thanks!

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    Welcome Shoot , from Qc Canada land of the banned area.

    As all advised : rd first but dont wait too much for hammers ,
    as leos dont discriminate good from bad people : they shoot to kill.

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