6 ways cops catch you texting and driving.

[kimberdan]

This is still getting investigated as possible texting and driving

Do we know if this person was drunk or texting? It is apparent that this person SHOULD have NOT been behind the wheel in any capacity...
Again as i just stated, This person made an adult decision and she/He will now have adult consequence....Its a fact of Life..... No I do not want to see anyone get hurt but its a fact of life..

[oddpedestrian]

Do we know if this person was drunk or texting? It is apparent that this person SHOULD have NOT been behind the wheel in any capacity...
Again as i just stated, This person made an adult decision and she/He will now have adult consequence....Its a fact of Life..... No I do not want to see anyone get hurt but its a fact of life..

Can't be drunk she would have been charged from the jump, so must be sleeping or texting.

[oddpedestrian]

[AirMoore]

1) WE DO hold them accountable. In this sense we hold them "more accountable" once this has been "proven". Depending on local laws, it's often a aggravating factor in a case.
We hold them accountable IF an accident happens, How else do we hold the responsable accountable? ....

We hold them accountable before it happens (in NY let's say) via 5-points on their license, and what can amount to an exceptional sum of money in toto. Furthermore, IF they do cause an accident, then it is generally considered an aggravating factor in the legal process.

As for the whole state trooper bit, I'm not wholly sure what the point was, so I'll just let it slide.

In Theory YES, bt you can say the same for someone that is speeding,drinking and driving and anything else that we can do on the road that can cause and accident..

Are you trying to affirm my point for me, or what? As you can see from the independent study I have furnished (and there are hundreds, if not thousands)... this is not theory. This is empirically backed data. If texting and driving were made impossible, it would categorically save lives.



Speeding is fundamentally different from Texting/Drinking&Driving for two reasons. The fact you have categorized these with speeding is the real crime here.
1)Driving in-and-of itself involves some element of speed, in it's very nature IT HAS TO. It cannot be avoided. It is a categorical imperative.
Texting/drinking need not be involved in driving in any way whatsoever.

The key here is, we place speed-limits in an arbitrary nature, to limit a categorical imperative of driving. Texting/drinking have no such basis.

2) Furthermore, in regards to speeding, (as aforementioned) it is an arbitrary restriction to a categorical imperative of driving. While many studies show "speed to be a factor" in crashes, the degree to which speed (or speeding) is involved, is arbitrary.

Take for example our good friend the autobahn, it's a sample of convenience. Statistically the unlimited portions are not categorically more dangerous than other (relatively comparable) roads. In this sense, speed(ing) does not invariably create a more dangerous road. Whereas, both texting and drinking (to my knowledge) have never been shown (in any independent study) to be as safe, or more safe. Again, this only compounds the more important issue outlined above, speed is a categorical imperative, speeding (the ing part) is merely an arbitrary delineation.

Nanny sensors? why do we need them? If your driving a 2 to 3000 pound missile and feel the need to have an electronic alerting system to let you know someone is in the lane next to you? You should NOT be behind the wheel.

I wholly agree. I thought we were talking about texting and driving? So, tougher laws to get and maintain your license.

Case in point, I know that if im on the road and theres many turns coming up or im in stop and go traffic im NOT going to pick up my phone and text...
You have to make adult decision and with that comes adult consequences...

Ahhh, you can predict the future, so you know precisely when to use your cellphone in every situation, knowing in advance that it will be safe to do so. Fantastic really, could you please let me know the lotto numbers for this upcoming week?

Yes im sure that kids know there way around a cell phone and text faster then me, But thats only because I have a life that does NOT require me to let everyone know about every little thing that is going on in my life....
Im not interested in telling everyone that i have as friend that im eating lunch and then im going to go to the Bathroom and many other personal things..
Hardley is a type

Thanks again for affirming my point. You may be better at driving, they are likely better at texting.

Im not using that as a qualifier, Im just saying that i think that me at 43 years of age that travel from FL to NY 5 to 8 times a year is going to be more inept to things that are around me and what is going on while im on the road, A young person that has been driving for 2 to 3 years to go from home to school and then around town does NOT have the experience of travel as i do. Im not saying i am better then anyone by NO means, But i think i have a bit more experience when it comes to travel

You are using it as a qualifier, you did in the last post. Perhaps more comical is that you use it AGAIN as a qualifier after directly stating you are not using it as such. This is how your argument plays out:
"I'm not using it as a qualifier of how come I am different and should be allowed to do this. Here is why I am more qualified to do this activity... NY/Florida, 43 years old, etc, etc."

Come on now, you can't be serious.



Also, here is that personal fable coming into play again!

Your argument will NOT dismantle any thing that i believe in... Its just your thought on this.... In America we are still allowed to have our own opinion.. We can agree to disagree....

Actually, no. It isn't just my thought, I have empirically supported evidence for a good portion of my statements. You are the one who simply has how you feel about something.

Though, with that stated, I wholly agree that you are absolutely allowed to have your own values, opinions, and beliefs. I would vehemently fight for you to be able to have (and express) these opinions. Alas, imposing them without empirical evidence on others (or in this case: imposing, through lack of imposing them) is problematic.


I mean the crux of your argument is a slippery slope. In your way of thinking, the government shouldn't be allowed to stop the average citizen from owning a nuclear armament. After all, they really don't hurt anyone just sitting there, HOWEVER, after the individual uses them, then is the time to act and punish him. UM WHAT? Your logic is... troublesome.


Going back to agreeing to disagree, I absolutely support this. When I say things like I will dismantle your argument, I don't mean objectively, I mean subjectively (though, in this case, it's near objectively).

Don't take it personally old chum, I rather enjoy this, it's not a personal affront in any way (ie: if you are ever back in New York, and wanted to discuss such topics over tea-and-crumpets, I'd be more than willing). Some of my best friends have ideals that are diametrically opposed to mine, and we can get into some serious discussions; yet... we are still friends come the end of the day.

[NVR2FST]

Believe me. We are going to see a lot more Internet use while driving. You can't stop technology. If it is physically possible and economically affordable people are going to do it, "laws" or no "laws". Just get rid of speed limits and Internet usage will go down as people prioritize getting where they're going in as little time as possible.

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[Salty]

Believe me. We are going to see a lot more Internet use while driving. You can't stop technology. If it is physically possible and economically affordable people are going to do it, "laws" or no "laws". Just get rid of speed limits and Internet usage will go down as people prioritize getting where they're going in as little time as possible.

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I can't remember what car commercial it was, but I saw one the other day where they were advertising the car having rolling wifi. That's pretty badass if you ask me.

[Mirage]

@Oddpedestrian Thanks for the write up. I have promoted it to an article, but the discussion may continue here. Keep up the good work!

[kimberdan]

I can't remember what car commercial it was, but I saw one the other day where they were advertising the car having rolling wifi. That's pretty badass if you ask me.

Chevy GM...

[lugnuts]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isc-RHHfbBs

This is still getting investigated as possible texting and driving

that could have been avoided if the guys called 911 in the bigining instead of videoing her for so long. so instead of the police catching her she crashes into another car and they get involved in the crash as well. maybe this will teach them to call 911 BEFORE the driver crashes.

[oddpedestrian]

@lugnuts

The police would have not made it in time regardless. If the cops were called every time someone is weaving in my state there be no cops but traffic cops.