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    Quote Originally Posted by NVR2FST View Post
    As long as people actually operate their vehicle in a manner that is not objectively dangerous I don't care if they have a BAC of 2.0 or whatever. Same for carrying a gun or anything else. No harm - No blame.
    Homosexual acts, some heterosexual acts, adultery, fornication, cohabitation, cross-dressing, pornography, blasphemy, obscenity, being open for business on Sunday - all used to be illegal. They are now legal. Somehow we survive. We can repeal most of the other laws as well. Believe me, civilization will not collapse.

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    Not trying to be rude...
    The first statement is problematic, and in the second, I think your equivocation might be a little off base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NVR2FST View Post
    As long as people actually operate their vehicle in a manner that is not objectively dangerous I don't care if they have a BAC of 2.0 or whatever. Same for carrying a gun or anything else. No harm - No blame.
    Homosexual acts, some heterosexual acts, adultery, fornication, cohabitation, cross-dressing, pornography, blasphemy, obscenity, being open for business on Sunday - all used to be illegal. They are now legal. Somehow we survive. We can repeal most of the other laws as well. Believe me, civilization will not collapse.

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    I kinda got lost in your statement here please elaborate. Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by oddpedestrian View Post
    I kinda got lost in your statement here please elaborate. Thanks
    his point is we dont need these "nanny state" laws, society will survive without them.

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    Ok, We just had an LEO hit and kill a 15 year old boy who was riding his bike to school, It was about 530AM and MOST all of our streets down here do NOT have Street lights, Most of the kids in this area have to walk or get a ride or use a bike.... That i so much dont have a problem with but the fact that its Dark out and you as a driver can not see crap...
    The FHP did an investigation and found that the officer was at fault, Keep in mind that according to the law the LEO was NOT braking the law.. the Boy was in the inside lane where if you read the law it states that when riding a bike you are suppose to be in the out side lane ( where there is NOT a walkway or bike lane) The Investigation started that the Computer that was in the cruiser played a major roll as a distraction to the vision of the officer, the officer was given a ticket for fail to right of way.. NO other charges pending....

    1 other thing, In NY LEOs are NOT allowed to talk or text on there phone while driving... The only exception is if it is work related and NOT personal, Now go ahead and prove that they are NOT on a personal call LoL

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    Quote Originally Posted by oddpedestrian View Post
    I kinda got lost in your statement here please elaborate. Thanks
    Quote Originally Posted by lugnuts View Post
    his point is we dont need these "nanny state" laws, society will survive without them.
    'lugnuts' answered your question better than I could have. Thanks, 'lugnuts'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lugnuts View Post
    his point is we dont need these "nanny state" laws, society will survive without them.
    His argument is poor, very poor. This cannot be emphasized enough. So... thank you for this translation!
    Last edited by AirMoore; 10-23-2014 at 05:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirMoore View Post
    His argument is poor, very poor. This cannot be emphasized enough.
    it is poor but I understood what he was trying to say, we're not all expert debaters here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirMoore View Post
    His argument is poor, very poor. This cannot be emphasized enough. So... thank you for this translation!
    How about we start holding the people that text adn drive and crash accountable when they hit someone or crash? This country does nothing but make laws with the thought that it will save a life!!!..... It is just like guns, If we take all the guns off the streets then we will be a safer country, NOT People that obey the law are the only ones that will have NO control over anything in there life.... I dont want to get hit by someone texting or not, But has anyone sat an watched some of todays youth drive? Its scary..
    Make me wonder how they got there license.... Let alone be able to text and drive? Hell half of the youth down here cant chew bubble gum and walk!!!
    So If anyone that thinks that because some 16 or 17 year old kid that can hardley chew gum and walk should be the deciding factor when it comes to law that affect me, an adult with only GOD knows how many miles under his belt is preposterous....

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    What do we think about people that interact with a lidar and/or radar app while driving? Just playing devil's advocate, texting drivers are probably the number one threat to my longevity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJR1300 View Post
    What do we think about people that interact with a lidar and/or radar app while driving? Just playing devil's advocate, texting drivers are probably the number one threat to my longevity.
    Texting is worst people are in intense conversations and are completely disengage from the road. Self driving cars couldn't come any faster.


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