RALTEC Live Testing Results

[NYSpeederPVM]

LTI says it's the same as the TSs , but it also does crash mapping? I am wondering if there's much more to it than that: " The TruSpeed Sx not only sports the same features as the TruSpeed S, it has the addition of a built-in tilt sensor, giving this laser the ability to measure both horizontal and vertical distance for crash scene mapping."

Is that really all it says? I mean it looks identical I just assumed it was a tss laying on the table. But really it just destroyed setups basically half the time. maybe they thought they'd keep it quiet so it wouldn't get sorted out by the jammer companies?

It mapped my crash alright.

[ECMExpert]

I knew something was up right away on this run, the next run against the same gun I had a constant v1 alert, no breaks.

Lol just realized you can hear my confusion at the end, totally puzzled.

Good stuff, interestingly, as the TSsx tries to get through the ALP , YOU CAN HEAR THE V1 cycling (alerting and then stopping) while the ALP MAINTAINS CONTINUOUS ALERTS.

[NYSpeederPVM]

Good stuff, interestingly, as the TSsx tries to get through the ALP , YOU CAN HEAR THE V1 cycling (alerting and then stopping) while the ALP MAINTAINS CONTINUOUS ALERTS.

This is true, I had my firmware screwed up but not sure if it would have made a difference on this run but I was pt starting at like 1200 feet.

[ECMExpert]

Is that really all it says? I mean it looks identical I just assumed it was a tss laying on the table. But really it just destroyed setups basically half the time. maybe they thought they'd keep it quiet so it wouldn't get sorted out by the jammer companies?

It mapped my crash alright.

Yes, they insists it's a TSs with crash mapping capability:


TruSpeed Sx
TruSpeed Sx
The TruSpeed Sx speed measurement and mapping laser offers the same ruggedized, waterproof case and features as the TruSpeed S but has the addition of a built-in tilt sensor, giving the laser the ability to measure both horizontal and vertical distance for crash scene mapping. Comes standard with a carrying case, neck strap, eyepiece cover, and 2 CR 123A Batteries.


Key Features of the TruSpeed Sx include:
Measures speed, slope distance and the degree of inclination
Offers 7X crystal-clear optics with in-scope data display
Clearly see in all lighting conditions
All-weather proof
Rugged exterior housing with tactile grips
Built-in tilt sensor
Illuminated scope for easy nighttime mapping
Integrates with LTI’s QuickMap® 3D field software


NOW AVAILABLE IN USA ONLY!

[ECMExpert]

This is true, I had my firmware screwed up but not sure if it would have made a difference on this run but I was pt starting at like 1200 feet.

My thought is this on the sx. When it can't get immediate acquisition, it acts like a continuous mode shot and resets the pulse rate and that's what's causing the PTs and the V1 cycling.

[NYSpeederPVM]

My thought is this on the sx. When it can't get immediate acquisition, it acts like a continuous mode shot and resets the pulse rate and that's what's causing the PTs and the V1 cycling.

But wouldn't it need at least 2 different pulse trains? If it started over wouldn't it be the same as the shooter releasing the trigger momentarily? It would still be jammed the second and following resets, it would need to start over with a different pps to confuse the jammers no? I'm really not as informed on these things so I know I might be missing something.

Err... actually I think I understand what you mean.

Jammer is expecting the next pulse at a specific interval, it comes slightly before or slightly after the expected time and wham it's "variable" and the jammer doesn't know what to do with it.

[ECMExpert]

But wouldn't it need at least 2 different pulse trains? If it started over wouldn't it be the same as the shooter releasing the trigger momentarily? It would still be jammed the second and following resets, it would need to start over with a different pps to confuse the jammers no? I'm really not as informed on these things so I know I might be missing something.

A standard TSs in continuous uses the same pulse train, it just delays it as it reshooting the target. Apparently, the sx is using a different pulse train even on continuous mode , so yes, it's different ones, thus the variable pulse rates . It could shoot A pulse, stop, shoot C pulse, stop, shoot X pulse tech. Etc.

This is not new technology, but it's taking a play out of DETs book.

[Mirage]

A standard TSs in continuous uses the same pulse train, it just delays it as it reshooting the target. Apparently, the sx is using a different pulse train even on continuous mode , so yes, it's different ones, thus the variable pulse rates . It could shoot A pulse, stop, shoot C pulse, stop, shoot X pulse tech. Etc.

This is not new technology, but it's taking a play out of DETs book.

You're close it's similar to the original TSS but they have modified the stops and all of the systems had issues as we later discovered. It was luck of the the draw if you got a bad run.

And for the record it is NOT VPR

[ECMExpert]

You're close it's similar to the original TSS but they have modified the stops and all of the systems had issues as we later discovered. It was luck of the the draw if you got a bad run.

And for the record it is NOT VPR

Then it's the stops that are causing the issues ? I am thinking Mirage that the firmware is in fact different than TSs, more than just the stops. If I stop the TSs on a shot and then restart shooting, it confuses the software on the jammer.

Just asking, but are you sure it's not acting as a VPR?

[itwasntme]

Thanks to all the RALETC team for an excellent, eye opening testing session. To say you guys are dedicated is an understatement and, it is GREATLY appreciated! Was hard to concentrate on getting all the runs in when everybody wanted to talk too.

As for the TSsx, the results were made even more confusing to me because I had good success with that gun. I had only one close range punch through just under 200ft. And while others had issues with the TSsx, I had a couple of punch throughs on the PL3 which I thought was a relatively easy gun to jam. There is plenty of PL3 around my area too. I knew my rear heads were not level and expected the likes of Yellowcab, Radarrob and Mirage to tear me up back there. But, I did think my front sensors were "pretty good," being tipped up only 3 or 4 degrees. Well I learned that just OK is not good enough sometimes. If you have a gun your a little weak on to begin with, or a big chrome beast like my Flex, you can't afford to start from a non level position. If your riding on the edge of the beam divergence and you hit a road imperfection, you can move up or, down just the few critical degrees that bring you outside your jammers return pulse coverage dimensions. WHAM! Punch through! So thanks for the wake up call guys, I'll be getting my setup as close to true level is as humanly possible in the next couple of days. I know it was exhausting for the shooters but, can't wait for the next testing session. So good to meet a great bunch of guys. Learned so much and, had so much fun.