Older AL Jammers

[deano]

I think with the no falsing with the G8 and G9 it wasn't to far advanced ..as newer guns are coming out jammers need to expand and search for every thing ..I can also confirm this as I have mounted each jammer temporarily I still like to play around while testing at work but had no falses while driving through bottle shops ...I cant confirm about laser guided cars behind me as I didn't drive with them on

but if AL would have a list on what we can detect to switch on and off that would be the final touches of AL falses as we can look onto satistcs and see what we have been hit with im guessing there already working on it from my experience

here is a vid of a false I had while waiting to be served some drinks I have used the same shop for 7 years and I asked them have they installed any thing new they said no also the 2nd false was a car pulling up behind me sorry about the music but you can hear the slight tone but the music does over power it

[deano]

BRD you own a lidar gun try switching on the ALP but also at the same time shoot lidar let me know what happens in constant mode or warm up mode

what im saying is if I where to switch on my ALP while there is lidar present I actually have my ALP infact all my jammers are set to constant mode all antilaser products will not arm up while there is lidar present

so for a quick test pull the trigger on your lidar and hold it then turn on your ALP

[BestRadarDetectors]

BRD you own a lidar gun try switching on the ALP but also at the same time shoot lidar let me know what happens in constant mode or warm up mode

what im saying is if I where to switch on my ALP while there is lidar present I actually have my ALP infact all my jammers are set to constant mode all antilaser products will not arm up while there is lidar present

so for a quick test pull the trigger on your lidar and hold it then turn on your ALP

Correct.. But if you start your vehicle and give it 2 seconds to start-up it Jams immediately. You are concerned that you are being hit before you even start your vehicle? I really dont see an issue here?

[deano]

BRD are you fucking with me

read the thread

lets start from the beginning

im travelling down a road or perfect example I driving home from work my rear ALP has been armed for more than 10 minutes

but then an infinniti pulls in behind me as where still driving down the road ..I then get a false ...one thinks its a real threat so I jam to KILL ...I realise there is no threat so I try to re arm my rear ALP but of course the infinniti is travelling behind me ...im in constant mode when there is a slight brake in road conditions and the ALP sees no threat the rear ALP will arm its self back up but then the inffiniti gets closer ..there I have another false so I then switch back off ...then switch back on and some times its took over 2 minutes to rearm REASON BEING BECOUSE THE FALSE IS STILL BEHIND ME

its a proven fact as this is actually happened to me before

brd im not knocking ALP I understand where your coming from and your going to stand your grounds for ALP but its a knowing fact for all of antilaser products to do this don't worry its not an ALP default

[BestRadarDetectors]

BRD are you fucking with me

read the thread

lets start from the beginning

im travelling down a road or perfect example I driving home from work my rear ALP has been armed for more than 10 minutes

but then an infinniti pulls in behind me as where still driving down the road ..I then get a false ...one thinks its a real threat so I jam to KILL ...I realise there is no threat so I try to re arm my rear ALP but of course the infinniti is travelling behind me ...im in constant mode when there is a slight brake in road conditions and the ALP sees no threat the rear ALP will arm its self back up but then the inffiniti gets closer ..there I have another false so I then switch back off ...then switch back on and some times its took over 2 minutes to rearm REASON BEING BECOUSE THE FALSE IS STILL BEHIND ME

its a proven fact as this is actually happened to me before

brd im not knocking ALP I understand where your coming from and your going to stand your grounds for ALP but its a knowing fact for all of antilaser products to do this don't worry its not an ALP default

I understand where you are coming from but this is not an ALP issue. If you were using LI's for example and you had an infinity behind you the only difference would be that you might think you are protected but while any Jammer is receiving a false it can not alert to a real threat at the same time. The way to solve this would be to have each head monitoring individually and that might be something that can be done in the future.

Here is an AL notice that was posting somewhere last year on this topic:

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It has come to our attention that increasing number of new vehicles come equipped with some kind of integrated external Laser Emitting systems! This systems usually perform automatic cruise control functions like keeping the constant distance to the vehicle ahead (LCC), or safety functions like automatic braking for anti-crash purposes.

These Laser systems are scanner LIDARS that measure speed and distance of objects around the car JUST like the police LIDAR is measuring speed of your car. These systems operate on similar frequency and exact same light wave as police LIDARs. Because of that they will cause any LIDAR detector or defense system like ALP, LI, and HP to receive their signal and will interfere with receiving other signals at the same time.

According to our tests NO system ALP, LI, HP is able to correctly detect or block police LIDAR while receiving Volvo, Mazda, Infinity signals. ALP system will unlike LI, HP tell you that it is blocked by LCC by Red error signal or Green not blinking correctly by our advanced self-test protocol. LI or HP will not indicate that they are blocked but will FAIL to block police LIDAR without any kind of alarm!

This problem is particularly obvious when customer tries to mount ALP, LI, and HP system on Volvo, Mazda, and Infinity car. With our system it is noticed right away that problems exists while with other HP, LI systems first notice will be a ticket. When detector or defense is used on such car it will constantly receive signals from LCC LIDAR on that car and will not work correctly.

We have acknowledged this problem and have in the works for some time now a method that will make possible for such vehicles to use ALP system without interference from LCC.

...

The reason the ALP is not going into defense in these situations for you is so that you are informed that there is some interference going on. Its better for you to be aware that you are currently not being protected then to ignore it and make you think you are protected. For vehicles that have these Laser systems in their vehicle AL will soon release the LCC Module which will allow an ALP to be installed in your vehicle and give you full protection.

[deano]

totally agree with the systems not working with police lidar while its detecting another source but what I was trying to state is that trying to re arm a system while the threat is still there it near on impossible

lucky for me I don't see many of these laser based system on Volvos and other cars but when I do they let me know about it makes my drive home feel a little un easy an annoying

[deano]

not just ALP but all antilaser products skip to 1.11 where I jam to kill my rear G9 @1.29 the rear G9 was bleeping an error tone it would not power up @1.37 you hear beep beep G9 now rearmed

just imagine this if there was a car behind me constantly setting off my rear ALP the ALP would stay silent where is the G9 bleeped an error tone to let you know there is some thing wrong

[BestRadarDetectors]

not just ALP but all antilaser products skip to 1.11 where I jam to kill my rear G9 @1.29 the rear G9 was bleeping an error tone it would not power up @1.37 you hear beep beep G9 now rearmed

just imagine this if there was a car behind me constantly setting off my rear ALP the ALP would stay silent where is the G9 bleeped an error tone to let you know there is some thing wrong

But the ALP is acknowledging that there is interference because its not going into defense mode. would you rather think that you are currently protected or know that you are not protected at the moment? I just tested this on the ALP.. I power it on while its being targeted, It does not go into defense because of the interference at start-up. The second the interference stops the unit goes into defense mode. The ALP is doing whats its designed to do and let you know at the moment you are not being protected.

In cases where there are known false alerts from specific vehicles while you are already in motion and the system was already started and the ALP recognizes the false the LED will turn Red to let you know of the interference but will not give off an alert since its not a threat. Once the LED goes off you are back to being protected.

[deano]

I wasn't stating that I would be protected nor I wasn't stating that it will jam a real lidar threat while its detecting a false you stated this

how ever I was only stating that all and yes all of antilaser will not power up while under a threat

how ever the G8 and G9 will not detect laser based cruse control so I never had this false so antilaser isn't telling you every thing... as far I was aware I was driving around protected who knows if the G8 and G9 did detect these systems but it never alerted hense I never had any falses for so many years

im not argueing with you about what ALp does and doesn't do im sure you will win as your the seller of ALp im not going to fight to death for a jammer that will have a life span of 4 to 5 years

but from my point of view Australia only had 9 second jam time and only recently we can skip 1 minute warm up ...you could see how frustrating this was while trying to re arm .... bad enough waiting for 1 minute let alone to cop a false then back to 1 minute warm up ..lets say I just copped 5 falses from the car behind me that's a total of 5 minutes wait time 1 minute warm up each time I had a false if not longer if the alp was detecting a threat so in 5 minutes of driving how far did I travel ...I spend near to $2000 on a rear ALP but for those special 5 minutes I couldnt use my $2000 system because one false costed me 1 minute every time

how ever Australia still has the 9 second only and we can skip first warm up but the second warm up and the rest still count I can tell you what though its a pain in the ass

[BestRadarDetectors]

I wasn't stating that I would be protected nor I wasn't stating that it will jam a real lidar threat while its detecting a false you stated this

how ever I was only stating that all and yes all of antilaser will not power up while under a threat

how ever the G8 and G9 will not detect laser based cruse control so I never had this false so antilaser isn't telling you every thing... as far I was aware I was driving around protected who knows if the G8 and G9 did detect these systems but it never alerted hense I never had any falses for so many years

im not argueing with you about what ALp does and doesn't do im sure you will win as your the seller of ALp im not going to fight to death for a jammer that will have a life span of 4 to 5 years

but from my point of view Australia only had 9 second jam time and only recently we can skip 1 minute warm up ...you could see how frustrating this was while trying to re arm .... bad enough waiting for 1 minute let alone to cop a false then back to 1 minute warm up ..lets say I just copped 5 falses from the car behind me that total of 5 minutes wait time 1 minute warm up each if not longer if the alp was detecting a threat

We do not have restrictions here and as you know the Jam time is under control of the distributor in your country. I cant speak for that because I have different opinions but that is what is it and the US & Canada customers do not have these issues. If they want their ALP's to constantly be in defense mode they are entitled to and the second a threat passes or false alert occurs they are back in defense mode. These settings are specific to the region and every region has their own rules.