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    Newest firmware K band Gatso24 issues

    Well since updating to the newest firmware, K band detection of Gatso24 has dropped considerably.

    I thought maybe something was wrong with my setup but Dragons just confirmed it with his STI-R on ALP.

    I am just uploading the video now, but normally we get about a 300 to 700m detection.
    Last night and today we has only gotten about 50m...
    I started to notice a change the day after I installed the new firmware.
    Cameras I normally got 500m warning dropped right down which I chalked off to weather.
    Then a few days back, a mobile van I normally get 300-400m off of, didn't alert until almost on top of it.
    Last night, had a very close call with a van that was running K.
    I was lucky because he left his hazard lights on which saved my arse...

    Any suggestions on fixing this?
    Is there going to be a fix?

    Or option 3, I still have a copy of the last firmware, can I downgrade back to that?
    Edit: Cant downgrade :/

    This is really concerning...


    Old firmware detection range:
    This video has the same camera in it as the one that I only have 50m warning with last night.


    Now this is the same camera as the one tested last night by Dragons and I (as you can see the old firmware had decent range)

    Note the range and detection

    This video has the failure, you will see 1 really close call, I was lucky I noticed the van on the side of the road, otherwise that would have been a $150 fine.
    The second and third cameras are the same bridge ones as above, the only difference is firmware.


    Dragons is uploading his video now to back this up.

    Tom, ALP rep, what can we do to fix this as it seems to only affect Gatso detection...
    K band falses seem to be going off in their usual spots.

    I've also noticed that Poliscan alerts from the toll point are delayed as well...
    Don't fully trust my setup now considering I almost got a speeding fine by the changes...

    Update 3: Last nights run with Dragon.
    We experienced the same extremely poor detection. (Video includes my Redline as reference).
    Last edited by beingaware; 04-21-2014 at 02:37 AM.
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    Ok well I've just been out to test too after BA mentioned this and I can confirm the issue:

    If you look up as I pass under the overpass you can actually see the Gatso boxes.




    Just to add, before I went out I did a factory reset then reapplied settings with my USB stick.
    Last edited by dragons; 04-20-2014 at 02:43 AM. Reason: Add more info

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    are you both running the plus in the vertical position, is so go back to horizontal and test, also have you both got new gps enabled in alp settings, again disconnect that first may be before u spin the plus antenna
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    I am going to start running the Redline with K band again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinkydi View Post
    are you both running the plus in the vertical position, is so go back to horizontal and test, also have you both got new gps enabled in alp settings, again disconnect that first may be before u spin the plus antenna
    I'm not sure why that would make any difference since Gatso's are vertical, but I will head out again a little later and retest Horizontal. No I don't have GPS enabled.
    Last edited by dragons; 04-20-2014 at 02:52 AM.

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    Seems like they have tried to reduce falses...
    But my false levels are about the same.

    With Gatso 24 Radars, you need the unit at Max sensitivity.
    Last edited by beingaware; 04-20-2014 at 02:48 AM.
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    It hasn't done something strange like toggle on city red or yellow by default rather than running in highway ?
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    me neither, but some thing has happened , go through ur settings again before u spin the plus, also r u testing against the same cam as previous,

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    I'm fairly certain WB, I factory reset my ALP then reapplied my settings with the file attached to this>
    Setup.txt


    I couldn't upload it as an alp file.. Rename it to Setup.alp then check it with the ALP update site, they are the exact settings I am running.

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    Its very strange.
    Just spoke to ST and he mentioned that his Redflex detection is horrible as well now.

    This issue has now made ALP useless against about 80% of all photoradar world wide
    Or 100% of PhotoRadar used in Australia.

    Tom?
    ALP Rep???

    Going to drive down the coast tonight and do another run.
    Will have the Redline running as well for reference.
    Last edited by beingaware; 04-20-2014 at 03:44 AM.
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