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    Great results indeed. It was great meeting everyone. I had a great time yesterday except for the New Jersey traffic on the ride home, Honestly I don't know how people live in that state.
    I have some Passport Max results to post. I will do them Tuesday afternoon when I get to work. Today is my day off and time with my Daughter. It was a solid 6 hours of runs to record all those results on my car. We did not take many breaks.
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    Fantastic test guys. Thank you for all the hard work. Many questions were answered. Very happy I made the move to the ALP. I suspect AL is already working on DALA#5......at least since yesterday. Was kind of hoping there was a generic algo for all DALA s myself. Prompts more questions. How many versions are out there? How easy and, cost effective is it to deceminate new DALA software versions?

    I was about to ask what color the Veiled car was till Veil Guy answered my question. Those are impressive numbers for a metallic silver car. I have substantially Veiled previous cars that I've owned and, had the punch throughs down to the 700 ft to 750 ft range. When I got my current car, a metallic silver Ford Flex (wife vetoed the black one), I thought Veil application was pointless. I am now re examining that decision.

    I'm working on a "stealth" motorcycle project now. Both the ALP and, Veil will be part of the equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RigToFly01 View Post
    Great results indeed. It was great meeting everyone. I had a great time yesterday except for the New Jersey traffic on the ride home, Honestly I don't know how people live in that state.
    I have some Passport Max results to post. I will do them Tuesday afternoon when I get to work. Today is my day off and time with my Daughter. It was a solid 6 hours of runs to record all those results on my car. We did not take many breaks.
    More later....
    I think it is safe to say that this is one of the most thorough and efficiently run tests that I have experienced. Impressive, very impressive arsenal of equipment and shooting talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itwasntme View Post
    Fantastic test guys. Thank you for all the hard work. Many questions were answered. Very happy I made the move to the ALP. I suspect AL is already working on DALA#5......at least since yesterday. Was kind of hoping there was a generic algo for all DALA s myself. Prompts more questions. How many versions are out there? How easy and, cost effective is it to deceminate new DALA software versions?

    I was about to ask what color the Veiled car was till Veil Guy answered my question. Those are impressive numbers for a metallic silver car. I have substantially Veiled previous cars that I've owned and, had the punch throughs down to the 700 ft to 750 ft range. When I got my current car, a metallic silver Ford Flex (wife vetoed the black one), I thought Veil application was pointless. I am now re examining that decision.

    I'm working on a "stealth" motorcycle project now. Both the ALP and, Veil will be part of the equation.
    From now one, I am going to start showing Veil with a car less brutal than mine. It's like a worst case scenario. I honestly believe that metallic silver (with flecks, little mirrors) are worse than white. My wife's 'bru is a darker ruby red subaru. I think I should start testing that. Veil should definitely show better and now that I have seen my car over a decade against all of the guns I am ready for a change.

    I was thrilled that my expectations of validated with the VPR and other ECCM guns. Doesn't matter what they throw at me, we absorb it all.

    But this experience has definitely showed me once again that a defense in depth is the best way to go. I have no problem admitting it either. Veil is complimentary to ACMs not competitive. I hope that since we finally got a fair and thorough test, that I trust, hopefully the ACM community can see this as well. Thanks again RALETC. Great job, indeed!

    VG
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRocket View Post
    Well then,let me add some "icing-on-the-cake" to something I observed while sitting on the Starting Line(having completed my run) near the Shooters & waiting for those behind me to make their approaching runs coming at the Shooters.As we all well know,the (VR) V1 is an excellent Laser sensor.I always leave my V1 on during testing & I observed this every time Veil Guy made a run.The V1 would remain silent until VG was much,much closer than I would have expected for the V1 to do its job regarding refection return from the Lidar gun.There must have been considerable absorption taking place b/c the V1 remained silent... & not until VG got quite close did the V1 finally get enough reflected IR to activate an alert.
    Thanks for that RR. Never had an observation like that before, maybe another way to test it. LOL

    Hope you had an uneventful trip back! Remember, next time, please feel welcomed to stay with Lisa and I. I am a great chef, btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itwasntme View Post
    Fantastic test guys. Thank you for all the hard work. Many questions were answered. Very happy I made the move to the ALP. I suspect AL is already working on DALA#5......at least since yesterday. Was kind of hoping there was a generic algo for all DALA s myself. Prompts more questions. How many versions are out there? How easy and, cost effective is it to deceminate new DALA software versions?

    I was about to ask what color the Veiled car was till Veil Guy answered my question. Those are impressive numbers for a metallic silver car. I have substantially Veiled previous cars that I've owned and, had the punch throughs down to the 700 ft to 750 ft range. When I got my current car, a metallic silver Ford Flex (wife vetoed the black one), I thought Veil application was pointless. I am now re examining that decision.

    I'm working on a "stealth" motorcycle project now. Both the ALP and, Veil will be part of the equation.
    I can't wait to test an ALP/Veil combo. That should take all comers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellowcab View Post
    Veil results:

    Shooter was on axis. No jammers on car.

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    * LIDAR WAS SILENT UNTIL PT.
    The 2300 PTs with the stalker, Veil Guy didn't Veil his fog light on the passanger side.

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    What kind of vehicle did RedRocket have, how far apart are the heads? Seems to be a little more vulnerable at the center mass, which is unusual.

    I am guessing Rig had the Prius and Patsy the Porsche or was it the Suburban...


    I need to find someone to test my set-up, I'm worried the heads are too close together, knowing where others have the heads placed help me to have a little peace of mind till I know for sure.

    I think I'll get some Veil to help out, I was impressed with the gains (loss) from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboDriver View Post
    What kind of vehicle did RedRocket have, how far apart are the heads? Seems to be a little more vulnerable at the center mass, which is unusual.

    I am guessing Rig had the Prius and Patsy the Porsche or was it the Suburban...


    I need to find someone to test my set-up, I'm worried the heads are too close together, knowing where others have the heads placed help me to have a little peace of mind till I know for sure.

    I think I'll get some Veil to help out, I was impressed with the gains (loss) from it.
    RedRocket's heads were found not to be level which caused the PTs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellowcab View Post
    RedRocket's heads were found not to be level which caused the PTs.
    This is the reason i suggested to take a pic of every car , same distance same height same camera.

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