Requests for Future Improvements with the AL Priority

[Fast n Frivolous]

After using my ALP for a few weeks I have a suggestion for protecting those of us that use our systems in areas with dubious legality...

At this point if I was stopped and wished to ensure that my system appeared to be only a parking system with no evidence of it being capable of jamming I have to slip in a USB drive and change the firmware.

The other option will be when the "User profiles" firmware becomes live, however this still doesnt remove the jamming option, merely hides it in an easily discoverable user profile should anyone execute a simple button press.


Now this is what I would propose as a half way house between the two options above..

I'd like to see my ALP have two user profiles available at start up, with the Profile 1 always loaded first. This would be my parking only profile.

Then within the ALP firmware website I can set a unique code which would be a combination of button presses to switch the profiles to the jamming one (Profile 2). This way I can load the jamming profile whenever I start the car, but if my car was impounded, only I would be able to get it into the jamming profile by using the unique code of button presses.

So,

1. Start car, ALP loads User profile 1 (which would be parking only for me)
2. I enter my unique combo of buttons (eg menu - power - power - menu) to switch to profile 2 (jamming)
3. If I get rumbled, just cycle the power and the ALP stays in profile 1 with no evidence of a jamming capability.

Effectively a user definable code to switch profiles, with Profile 1 being the default loaded at start up.

I'd hope this would only require a little programming from where the "User profile" firmware is now as it only adds that button combo setting.

[BestRadarDetectors]

No need for all this complexity. Use the setup to enable the double tap parking only mode and double tapping the menu button will put you immediately into parking only mode and it will not do anything except give you parking alerts.

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[Fast n Frivolous]

No need for all this complexity. Use the setup to enable the double tap parking only mode and double tapping the menu button will put you immediately into parking only mode and it will not do anything except give you parking alerts.

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Sure, but anyone who just presses the menu button puts it right back into jam mode and it is in jam mode at start up by default, correct? That doesnt provide any form of security from prying professional eyes.

Complexity is fine when you consider a chap over here did 2 months inside for perverting the course of justice when his car was seized from his own driveway and jammers were discovered by experts called in by the police.

The key here is having a system that is impossible to get into any form of jamming state without a code that cannot be read from a quick browse of the internet.

I appreciate the market for this may be small, but it would be a huge safety system for folks in places where jammers are illegal.

[awj223]

Sure, but anyone who just presses the menu button puts it right back into jam mode and it is in jam mode at start up by default, correct? That doesnt provide any form of security from prying professional eyes.

Complexity is fine when you consider a chap over here did 2 months inside for perverting the course of justice when his car was seized from his own driveway and jammers were discovered by experts called in by the police.

Sounds like the guy had a really sucky lawyer. Car seized from HIS OWN DRIVEWAY?!? Cops were TRESPASSING? And on top of that it should just be a fix-it ticket for equipment violation. And it also sounds like he got in trouble for lying, not for the jammers per se. He should just exercise his right to remain silent when asked, or say stuff like "they're parking sensors" (which is true). Don't say stuff like "they're not capable of jamming LIDAR guns" or anything like that.

The key here is having a system that is impossible to get into any form of jamming state without a code that cannot be read from a quick browse of the internet.

I appreciate the market for this may be small, but it would be a huge safety system for folks in places where jammers are illegal.

It's called Privacy Mode. Even if you KNOW about Privacy Mode, you still can't put it into jam mode unless you have a drive with the key on it.

[Fast n Frivolous]

Sounds like the guy had a really sucky lawyer. Car seized from HIS OWN DRIVEWAY?!? Cops were TRESPASSING? And on top of that it should just be a fix-it ticket for equipment violation. And it also sounds like he got in trouble for lying, not for the jammers per se. He should just exercise his right to remain silent when asked, or say stuff like "they're parking sensors" (which is true). Don't say stuff like "they're not capable of jamming LIDAR guns" or anything like that.


It's called Privacy Mode. Even if you KNOW about Privacy Mode, you still can't put it into jam mode unless you have a drive with the key on it.

Here in the UK the law is ambiguous about the use of jammers. The perverting the course of justice law covers a whole host of sins and to me is not intended for this instance, however it was used to secure a prosecution. Others have simply been fined about £1000 and had the equipment confiscated. He'd been convicted previously so should have taken more care.

The police turned up with a search warrant based on the video evidence from the speed camera van showing them unable to get a speed. This does mean there is now legal precedent which can and will be sued in courts again hence my desire to see a more robust safety margin on the ALP firmware options.\

I'm not aware of a PRIVACY mode. Do you mean the security feature of using a USB key? If so I wasn't aware that removing the USB would leave it in PDC mode, I thought it would render the system inoperable completely?

[BestRadarDetectors]

Privacy Mode puts a special security key on a USB Drive and will only allow the ALP to jam if the drive is inserted. Pull the drive and it will only be a parking system no matter what you do.

If you are that paranoid also get the USB drive from Antilaser that can self district if you bend it. There are tons of options out there already.

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[awj223]

I'm not aware of a PRIVACY mode. Do you mean the security feature of using a USB key? If so I wasn't aware that removing the USB would leave it in PDC mode, I thought it would render the system inoperable completely?

Essentially, the ALP writes a key file to the USB drive when you put it into privacy mode. It looks for that file whenever it boots up. If it sees the file, it goes into jam mode. If it does not see the file or no USB drive is inserted, it stays in parking mode. This process is irreversible, once enabled, it cannot be disabled. You can backup the key file to another device, to a computer, to the cloud, etc., but if you lose the file, your ALP will be a brick. If you are really paranoid, you can get the industrial grade USB drive from AL as BRD said, and if you bend the drive, it'll break and its contents will be inaccessible. Then you can encrypt the key file using PGP and back it up to the cloud for safekeeping, and nobody should be able to tell what it is, even if they search your computers and accounts.

[Fast n Frivolous]

Paranoid? I'd suggest being careful to ensure I don't lose my Liberty for the sake of preventing a speeding fine isn't paranoid. It's calmly, logically sensible.

I've had jammers on my cars for almost 10 years and the law here in the UK has never explicitly outlawed them. Only recently has there been test cases that have led to draconian sentences for those caught having used them to evade a speeding fine.

There is no mention of a privacy mode in my manual. There is an anti theft option mentioned which explicitly states that the ALP will not "power on" without the USB key inserted. I assume you guys mean this?

Is the manual incorrect and it should say "remains in parking mode?"

If that's the case then the security key is the way for me to go obviously albeit with the associated risks of losing that key.

[awj223]

The police turned up with a search warrant based on the video evidence from the speed camera van showing them unable to get a speed.

Your friend DOES know that you're supposed to slow down, and then KILL the jammers so that they CAN get your speed, right?

Also, tell your friend to park in the garage next time so that when he enables Privacy Mode, if the cops show up at the door, he can pull the USB key before giving the cops access to the vehicle.

Paranoid? Rather harsh and uncalled for. Being careful to ensure I don't lose my Liberty for the sake of preventing a speeding fine isn't paranoid. It's calmly, logically sensible.

I've had jammers on my cars for almost 10 years and the law here in the UK has never explicitly outlawed them. Only recently has there been test cases that have led to draconian sentences for those caught having used them to evade a speeding fine.

Given this thread expressly asks for suggestions on features that users would like to see and everybody involved with AL may not be aware of the severity of punishment handed out if caught using a jammer in the UK I would have hoped that this sort of suggestion would be considered a possibility not dismissed out of hand.

Also I can find no mention of a privacy mode in my manual. There is an anti theft option mentioned which explicitly states that the ALP will not "power on" without the USB key inserted.

Is the manual incorrect and it should say "remains in parking mode?"

If that's the case then the security key is the way for me to go obviously.

It should power up but remain in parking mode.

[dinkydi]

Here in the UK the law is ambiguous about the use of jammers. The perverting the course of justice law covers a whole host of sins and to me is not intended for this instance, however it was used to secure a prosecution. Others have simply been fined about £1000 and had the equipment confiscated. He'd been convicted previously so should have taken more care.

The police turned up with a search warrant based on the video evidence from the speed camera van showing them unable to get a speed. This does mean there is now legal precedent which can and will be sued in courts again hence my desire to see a more robust safety margin on the ALP firmware options.\

I'm not aware of a PRIVACY mode. Do you mean the security feature of using a USB key? If so I wasn't aware that removing the USB would leave it in PDC mode, I thought it would render the system inoperable completely?

here in OZ the law is also ambiguous on that sort of thing to even include radio interference's, think the idea is great and straight forward and simple, no cloud or keys etc, privacy mode is in the small h/book, also dont forget the golden rule