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    Quote Originally Posted by SLO View Post
    The Le-10 really didn't do all that great against the dalas when I did testing.
    You're right I tested against several DALA's and the LE-10 did not do well at all. Instant PT in most cases. For it's time it was good, but now that we have higher pulse rate guns or changing pulse rates it makes the timing much more important. Even a brute force jammer like the LE-10 must introduce a pulse within the gate or window upon which the gun is expecting it otherwise the gun will filter the returns out as noise.

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    The Le10 lacks sensitivity. Aim away from the le10 and you will get a PT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirage View Post
    You're right I tested against several DALA's and the LE-10 did not do well at all. Instant PT in most cases. For it's time it was good, but now that we have higher pulse rate guns or changing pulse rates it makes the timing much more important. Even a brute force jammer like the LE-10 must introduce a pulse within the gate or window upon which the gun is expecting it otherwise the gun will filter the returns out as noise.
    You're absolutely right, in a simple calculation: in order to produce white noise which will work for the latest LIDARS to "see" in the schedule they expect to see his signals, you must install a vast amount (and impractical) of jammers as the LE10 when they must be synchronized, so that each cover a different time interval-And it is because a single driver can not support such a quantity of pulses.

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    I personally tested 2 guys from NYC 1 1/2 yrs ago who had LE-10's installed.I didn't have a DragonEye at the time but easily chewed through them w/ several other Lidar models.The LE-10 was so insensitive I couldn't get it to alert w/ my handheld simulator even @ 1 to 2 feet.

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    Wow! Serves me right for my ignorance. I'll ask the next question; can a brute force jammer still work with todays more advanced LIDAR guns?

    For example; using a set of heads that are desinged for maximum sensitivity and upon alert, activates the brute force part of the system?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerragonSix View Post
    Wow! Serves me right for my ignorance. I'll ask the next question; can a brute force jammer still work with todays more advanced LIDAR guns?

    For example; using a set of heads that are desinged for maximum sensitivity and upon alert, activates the brute force part of the system?
    As I wrote above: in order to produce white noise which will work for the latest LIDARS to "see" in the schedule they expect to see his signals, you must install a vast amount (and impractical) of jammers as the LE10 when they must be synchronized, so that each cover a different time interval-And it is because a single driver can not support such a quantity of pulses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by max View Post
    As I wrote above: in order to produce white noise which will work for the latest LIDARS to "see" in the schedule they expect to see his signals, you must install a vast amount (and impractical) of jammers as the LE10 when they must be synchronized, so that each cover a different time interval-And it is because a single driver can not support such a quantity of pulses.
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