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    Quote Originally Posted by mirage View Post
    Portrait only unfortunately. You don't need service but you will lose GPS without it as iPhones don't use a real gps chip they use cell tower triangulation.
    This is not true.. I bought an iPhone 4S with no service to use with the ALP and it displays GPS Speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BestRadarDetectors View Post
    This is not true.. I bought an iPhone 4S with no service to use with the ALP and it displays GPS Speed.
    I stand corrected then. When did they start using a GPS chip? Put it in airplane mode and see if it works. If not then they maybe using just the cell positioning, but regardless cool that you can get GPS like service without having cell service.

    Try this with your iPhone. I know it won't work:



    Still doesn't change the fact that on the ground you still get GPS positioning without cell service which is cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mirage View Post
    I stand corrected then. When did they start using a GPS chip? Put it in airplane mode and see if it works. If not then they maybe using just the cell positioning, but regardless cool that you can get GPS like service without having cell service.

    Try this with your iPhone. I know it won't work:

    Still doesn't change the fact that on the ground you still get GPS positioning without cell service which is cool.
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/4971/a...-att-verizon/9

    The iPhone 4 previously used a BCM4750 single chip GPS receiver, and shared the 2.4 GHz WiFi antenna as shown many times in diagrams. We reported with the CDMA iPhone 4 that Qualcomm’s GPS inside MDM6600 was being used in place of some discrete solution, and showed a video demonstrating its improved GPS fix. I suspected at the time that the CDMA iPhone 4 might be using GLONASS from MDM6600 (in fact, the MDM6600 amss actually flashed onto the CDMA iPhone 4 includes many GLONASS references), but never was able to concretely confirm it was actually being used.

    MDM6610 inside the 4S inherits the same Qualcomm GNSS (Global Navigation Satellite System) Gen8 support, namely GPS and its Russian equivalent, GLONASS. The two can be used in conjunction at the same time and deliver a more reliable 3D fix onboad MDM6610, which is what the 4S does indeed appear to be using. GPS and GLONASS are functionally very similar, and combined support for GPS and GLONASS at the same time is something most modern receivers do now. There are even receivers which support the EU’s standard, Galileo, though it isn’t completed yet. This time around, Apple is being direct about its inclusion of GLONASS. The GPS inside MDM6610 fully supports standalone mode, and assisted mode from UMTS, GSM, OMA, and gpsOneXTRA.
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    My old htc thunderbolt had a gps chip in it. I still have it to use if needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechrr View Post
    My old htc thunderbolt had a gps chip in it. I still have it to use if needed.
    I believe all Android devices do but I don't think even today the iphones do.

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    I made a nice mount for my dash but it holds the phone in landscape.

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    I have the consumer cellular plan. It cost only $20 a month. I really don't use the IPhone. I like android. I would drop Verizon, but Verizon work in more locations than att. consumer cellular is att. I will probably leave the ipone as a alp display. I just ordered the small network switch on ebay. I should stop in NJ next month when I am off and show my install.

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    I will have to check the iPhone. I have the 5. I will check tomorrow. I should have my system set up by the 14th if brd gets the units this week. I'm only one day shipping from them. I can drive to them in less than 2 hrs.

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    Cool stuff. Is there a plan to eliminate the flashing of the bar graph meter during radar alerts? I can see that being annoying.

    If you want a different siren instead of "borrowing" the LI one, I have a synthesizer at home and can make one up. Hurry up before I sell it to buy an ALP though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radargeek View Post
    Cool stuff. Is there a plan to eliminate the flashing of the bar graph meter during radar alerts? I can see that being annoying.

    If you want a different siren instead of "borrowing" the LI one, I have a synthesizer at home and can make one up. Hurry up before I sell it to buy an ALP though.
    BRD has custom sounds and graphics that he and I have been messing around with to enhance the product. We are letting AL get the bugs worked out of the current release before we submit the updates which include new alerts, modified graphics (include the meter), and normalized vocals with tonal adjustments. They sound great on both a stand-alone speaker or over Bluetooth. If you want make us an alert just send it to me and I'll test it out. Then you can sell your synthesizer!

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