Delayed ALP alert.

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03-28-2014, 01:48 PM
RigToFly01

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Delayed ALP alert.

I was driving to work today. It seems my local police now have the TruSpeed. I was on my way to the Parkway and my wife and daughter were following me in my wife's car. Down the road I saw a white BMW pulled over with a cop standing next to it. He had the TruSpeed in his hand. He was not aiming at cars when I passed right next to him. I am pretty sure he was shooting me as I approached from a distance. After I got about 200' past him, the ALP gave me 2 Alerts. Both saying that they were Forward alerts. When it first went off I thought maybe he was shooting me in the rear. (no jokes please) The MAX in my car and the 9500ix in my wife's were silent the whole time. Which I expected.

Has anyone had this happen to them? Any insights would be helpful.

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03-28-2014, 02:08 PM
FJR1300

Could it be a bluetooth delay? I'm thinking you may not have the remote led in use to confirm alp connect timing with led?
Just a guess.

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03-28-2014, 02:10 PM
RedRocket

What is the question ?
1.Why didn't the AL-P alert before you got to him?
-or-
2.Why didn't your Max or wife's CM alert?
03-28-2014, 02:30 PM
BestRadarDetectors

Without having a cam and more details my guess is he shot a vehicle in front of you or even on the other side of the road as you passed and with the sensitivity of the ALP you caught a reflection off of the other vehicle that was shot. ALP's respond instantly and I have never seen a delay on any shot.
03-28-2014, 02:33 PM
Mirage

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Originally Posted by BestRadarDetectors

Without having a cam and more details my guess is he shot a vehicle in front of you or even on the other side of the road as you passed and with the sensitivity of the ALP you caught a reflection off of the other vehicle that was shot. ALP's respond instantly and I have never seen a delay on any shot.

I agree with Toms assessment as I've never seen a delay in the testing we have done and Won and I have tested every gun except a laser atlanta.

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03-28-2014, 02:55 PM
RigToFly01

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Originally Posted by BestRadarDetectors

Without having a cam and more details my guess is he shot a vehicle in front of you or even on the other side of the road as you passed and with the sensitivity of the ALP you caught a reflection off of the other vehicle that was shot. ALP's respond instantly and I have never seen a delay on any shot.

If it was a reflection, it should of been a Rear alert and not a Front alert. Right? Since I was 200' past him and there is no way the 3 front sensors would got a reflection.
03-28-2014, 02:56 PM
RigToFly01

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Originally Posted by RedRocket

What is the question ?
1.Why didn't the AL-P alert before you got to him?
-or-
2.Why didn't your Max or wife's CM alert?

Yes RR #1.

I know why the 2 Radar Detectors did not alert.
03-28-2014, 02:58 PM
Salty

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Originally Posted by RigToFly01

If it was a reflection, it should of been a Rear alert and not a Front alert. Right? Since I was 200' past him and there is no way the 3 front sensors would got a reflection.

If he shot a car behind you yes, it should have been a rear alert. However, if for some reason he shot a car in front of you, even after you passed, you would get the alert from the front. ALP's are ridiculous sensitive and will pick up scatter. The only explanation would be for some reason he shot a car in front of you, after you passed him.
03-28-2014, 03:06 PM
RigToFly01

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Originally Posted by Salty

If he shot a car behind you yes, it should have been a rear alert. However, if for some reason he shot a car in front of you, even after you passed, you would get the alert from the front. ALP's are ridiculous sensitive and will pick up scatter. The only explanation would be for some reason he shot a car in front of you, after you passed him.

Ok. I guess the next investment is going to be a CAM. I wanted to turn around and try it again but I was running late. The next time I see them in my town with it, I am going to do a couple laps.
03-28-2014, 03:16 PM
BestRadarDetectors

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Originally Posted by RigToFly01

If it was a reflection, it should of been a Rear alert and not a Front alert. Right? Since I was 200' past him and there is no way the 3 front sensors would got a reflection.

If he was shooting a car coming towards you or a car in front of you your front heads would most likely catch the scatter not your rear heads.
03-28-2014, 03:18 PM
Mirage

Also front heads take priority if both are receiving.

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03-28-2014, 03:19 PM
curmudgeon

The next time I see them in my town with it, I am going to do a couple laps.

The sign of a true cm addict:eagerness:
03-28-2014, 03:23 PM
RedRocket

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Originally Posted by RigToFly01

Yes RR #1.

Well,we'll see how you do when we meet in Taxachusetts in a few days.
I would guess he was targeting the cars ahead of you & b/c the TS throws out such a narrow beam (at short range) you got no scatter,by the time you became his interest at <200' (or less) it took a couple of seconds for him to re-aim & pull trigger ...you were just about on top of him by then.
03-28-2014, 03:39 PM
Salty

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Originally Posted by RigToFly01

Ok. I guess the next investment is going to be a CAM. I wanted to turn around and try it again but I was running late. The next time I see them in my town with it, I am going to do a couple laps.

A couple of years ago, my wife and I were driving home on the parkway. There was a cop shooting lidar, but he didn't shoot me b/c I saw him way ahead of time, slowed, and moved over to the right lane. I wanted to turn around and my wife looked at me like I had three heads, and called me a dork.
03-28-2014, 03:49 PM
curmudgeon

my wife looked at me like I had three heads, and called me a dork.

Dork (maybe) or not, she still loves ya.............all that matters
03-28-2014, 03:55 PM
Salty

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Originally Posted by curmudgeon

my wife looked at me like I had three heads, and called me a dork.

Dork (maybe) or not, she still loves ya.............all that matters

That's right sir!
03-28-2014, 04:09 PM
CJR238

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Originally Posted by RigToFly01

If it was a reflection, it should of been a Rear alert and not a Front alert. Right? Since I was 200' past him and there is no way the 3 front sensors would got a reflection.

I agree here, no way the front heads should have alerted to a car being shot behind you at 200ft and the rear didn't alert. However in rain or a dusty conditions lidar can reflect/disperse off particles in the air and provide a good amount of scatter so this may be why?
03-28-2014, 04:10 PM
RedRocket

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Originally Posted by RigToFly01

The next time I see them in my town with it, I am going to do a couple laps.

Yeah,but you still won't know the exact moment the trigger is pulled to determine if you have a "delay" or not.I'll bring a couple of walkie-talkies so you can "hear" me announce while I pull the trigger.
03-28-2014, 04:42 PM
Tman

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I dont know if it is of value , i got a rear alert on my Li rear this way :
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03-28-2014, 04:50 PM
CJR238

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Originally Posted by Tman

I dont know if it is of value , i got a rear alert on my Li rear this way :
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That would make sense, but for some reason with the same type of scenario he got a front alert when the scatter should have set off the rear.
03-28-2014, 04:55 PM
Lucky225

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Originally Posted by CJR238

That would make sense, but for some reason with the same type of scenario he got a front alert when the scatter should have set off the rear.

I believe the above drawing the blue is approaching the officer as green is passing. In THIS particular scenario BDR is suggesting the the officer was shooting the REAR of a vehicle in FRONT of the car, thus the rear scatters backwards to the front of the green car.
03-28-2014, 05:38 PM
Tman

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Originally Posted by Lucky225

I believe the above drawing the blue is approaching the officer as green is passing. In THIS particular scenario BDR is suggesting the the officer was shooting the REAR of a vehicle in FRONT of the car, thus the rear scatters backwards to the front of the green car.

Direction of travel of both car :Attachment 1243
03-28-2014, 06:04 PM
Lucky225

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Originally Posted by Tman

Direction of travel of both car :Attachment 1243

Understood, but in the situation described by OP, I believe BDR is suggesting THIS happened:
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03-28-2014, 06:22 PM
speed-dreams

Just buy a laser tester , hit the heads with it, and see if it has a delay in the alerts.
03-28-2014, 07:17 PM
shanetrainST

Might not be scatter, sometime they work in groups of two.
When one is pulling a car over, the second Leo is still hiding in the bushes a little further down capturing speed.
03-28-2014, 08:00 PM
Lucky225

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Originally Posted by shanetrainST

Might not be scatter, sometime they work in groups of two.
When one is pulling a car over, the second Leo is still hiding in the bushes a little further down capturing speed.

x2, sometimes if it's a divided highway they'll shoot opposite directions from both sides as well and then radio someone else to pull over.
03-28-2014, 08:06 PM
BestRadarDetectors

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Originally Posted by Lucky225

Understood, but in the situation described by OP, I believe BDR is suggesting THIS happened:
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Correct. Without a Cam and seeing he situation we will never know exactly what happened but if his front alerted and not the rear this diagram will certainly explain it. They could have also been shooting at cars in the opposite lane further down coming towards him and it could have had the same effect. Based on his speed being 35MPH he probably was not the target.
03-28-2014, 08:09 PM
Lucky225

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Originally Posted by BestRadarDetectors

Correct. Without a Cam and seeing he situation we will never know exactly what happened but if his front alerted and not the rear this diagram will certainly explain it. They could have also been shooting at cars in the opposite lane further down coming towards him and it could have had the same effect. Based on his speed being 35MPH he probably was not the target.

And also I think I'm dyslexic, that was supposed to be BRD :D

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