Can't wait to see some old faces and meet some new ones. Weather looks good and the turnout looks great!
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Can't wait to see some old faces and meet some new ones. Weather looks good and the turnout looks great!
Me Too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty
Can't wait to tare up some installations. If we can't get a PT on your set up, no one can!
Will your set up be RALETC APPROVED?
Looking forward to seeing some old friends some new friends and THE ROOKIE!
Come with questions about radar, LIDAR and our CMs. This is a great opportunity to learn a lot.
check your PMs
Has the location pm been sent out?
Check your PMs.
I signed up on RDF but haven't received the location either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yellowcab
PM sentQuote:
Originally Posted by mikedotd
We retested the LI after running the sensitivity test on the test course. With the heads pointed upwards at 5 degrees and towed outward at about 2 degrees. The LI did not alert to any interferences. The LI had instant and constant punch throughs on three consecutive runs when tested with the DET Compact.
We are speculating that the cause of the punch throughs are due to the installation that we use for testing. Based on the instructions that LI provides for the firmware update, we feel that they want the heads positioned in that fashion to minimize interference between the heads. It is possible if the heads are installed so they are also recessed and isolated from each other it may result in improved performance.
Everyone is too tired to post up? Haha good day, except finding out I suck at updating :/
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Originally Posted by Yellowcab
Sounds like crosstalk issue on the LIs if they are chanting them out a bit. We've seen this before, but why would a firmware update cause the new or additional cross talking?
Hey..just got home..im pooped!.what a day!
Great meeting all you guys. Looking forward to the next meet!
nice seeing everyone as well! just got home a little while ago myself.
the people that made it to the end at 6 also got a RALETC t-shirt :D
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Originally Posted by TeamQuack
And how do mere mortals get these? ;)
Whoa you guys were there until 6? Way more hardcore than me haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeamQuack
test for 9-10 hours straight without any break ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ECMExpert
this is what the last few if us got as a nice gift :D
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Yes, TeamQuack, that shirt was a really nice surprise at the end of a long day of testing. Guys like Yellow Cab, specifics, Radarrob, Mirrage, RedRocket, BestRadarDetectors and RigToFly01(sorry if I missed someone) were the ones that really deserved something though, they were working VERY hard to make sure we all got throughly tested. Great to meet you TeamQuack, also, Fox in the hole, NYSpeederPVM, Spankyaf, Kristoff_Kohl, Veil Guy and everybody. Can't wait to see all the results.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeamQuack
big congrats to a fine team
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Originally Posted by itwasntme
I know how difficult it can be to test. You ALL are to be commended. Few realize the time, money and effort involved to do this, yet we all benefit collectively for the efforts. A special thanks to Mirage for ALL he's done to make this happen as well.
It was great to meet everyone. I had a great time helping everyone get tested. Thanks to RALETC for initiation to the group. I had such a good time this time I hope we can do it all again sooner rather than later.
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I/O Ka all the way home..... after the parking lit on the Jersey TPK..... Good job all and interesting results......
Thanks for forgetting the dude who got things moving swiftly by being so on top of comms. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by itwasntme
It was great meeting all the new guys. You all are some cool dudes, and we hope to see you out at the next meet!
Special thanks to my fellow Raletc members who busted their asses to make this meet possible.
Thank you to everyone who attended! It was great meeting the newer guys as well as seeing old friends. Special thanks to Red Rocket, Mirage , Specifics, RIgToFly for working incredibly hard for two days straight. I know I am still tired and catching up on sleep.
Thank you to Tom, Salty and RadarRob for helping out on Sunday.
Mirage will be posting the results. Unfortunately, I will be very busy this week with work and family and don't have much free time to spend on it. We did learn a lot about the TSX and understanding 8.18. The big take away from the member testing is that choosing proper sensor locations and being meticulous with sensor alignment is very important. PTs may not happen on some LIDARs due to incorrect placement and alignment, but will show up on other LIDARs. Everyone should take the time and effort to improve their installations. Another take away from member testing is that using a lot of veil does help (fox in the hole)
I wish I could have gone. Let me know if you have a meet in NH, MA or VT in the future.
Ha, ha, new I forgot someone, THANKS SALTY! Got to love some of those exchanges on the radio. Got me laughing. It was a LONG day for you guys. Everything really good takes some effort and you guys made it great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty
Just wanted to say thank you to everyone who made the event possible. I had a great time and learned a lot. It was nice to meet everyone and figure out how I can improve my setup.
Let's not forget to thank RedRocket for cracking the whip at the staging area.
"JAMMERS ON!"
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Thanks YC, why dont we start a thread on that and show the results separate from the other testing???Quote:
Originally Posted by Yellowcab
We will be posting the results on www.raletc.comQuote:
Originally Posted by ECMExpert
Hey Yellowcab I knew that was coming..LOL!!..hey anything that can give me that edge!!..awesome meet..hope we can all do it again soon
Rolled into home an hour ago. Heavy rain in the Poconos and a flat on the Thruway just outside of Buffalo just added to the adventure of the weekend. Thank you to the Raletc members who organized this event. An impressive array of technology and a level of expertise among the members makes me believe that the `hobby` is going to be a thorn in the side of speed enforcement for years to come
A flat!! Wow, it's not like you were tired at that point Spanky! Thanks for all the great info on the FJR1300, you helped me make up my mind. Great meeting you. Glad to hear you made it back safe and sound.Quote:
Originally Posted by spankyaf
Thank you all for coming out.It was nice meeting old timers and new members.Since 1997 the testing area has been a good,clean,blessing spot for us and hope it continues to be a spot for the future.To everyone who attended and brought equipment,tools ect...Thank you! To the whole RALTC team another successful meet. RALTC approved.If you would like RALTC to attend at a meet near you send us a Pm and we will do our best to attend.
I may have traveled further, but you certainly had the longest trip! I would have loved to have driven my vehicle through Georgia maybe next year. Glad you made it home safely.Quote:
Originally Posted by spankyaf
I finally got the sheet of specifics testing. Early Sunday morning when everyone was at the meeting point. Specifics and I got done setting up and had some time so we tested his ride with some of the guns. I am fairly new to shooting but I am getting better every time. Specifics asked me to post the results for him. I don't think it's fair to post these as Official RALETC results as RALETC Shooters did all the Official shooting that day. I will be ready by the next meet for some real shooting. I used the tripod just like normal. I must of been doing something right as I managed a couple PT's.
I do want to make note that these results are from his car not the car he was driving all day on Sunday. He was in the Test car Sunday.
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He knows what he needs to do to get rid of those PT's, It just is not that easy with his install.Quote:
Originally Posted by RigToFly01
This will be done by spring for sure..... I am quite pleased with the power of this ALP system though and in a real world circumstance this gives be a better than even chance of getting woowed down in time to avoid a ticket..... Notice how I jammed the SX Sunday morning too... I'll be doing some research on pulling that bumper cover and working on the grill over the winter...Quote:
Originally Posted by BestRadarDetectors
Thanks RigToFly01 for posting these results as it gives me some good data....Quote:
Originally Posted by RigToFly01
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It's very hard to compare tripod shooting to what you'd see in the "wild." The tester knows the jam car is coming and concentrates on one fixed point with next to no beam shake for well over 1000'. A LEO is not sitting in his car waiting for you with baited breath in a perfectly braced position. Why? Because, it's not necessary 99% of the time to acquire a speed. Usually, even a sloppy shot gets him what he needs so, why should he be so tense and focused for a 2" putt? Even if the cop is a very experienced, proficient shooter, by the time he becomes aware he is being jammed or, not getting the speed for whatever reason, the jammer equipped car has already traveled a great distance reducing his target window substantially. Not to say this testing isn't valuable. It will show you the absolutes. It will help you fine tune your setup to maximize the precision of your return pulses.
Upon checking my front three ALP sensors when I got home, I found that they were elevated only 1-2 degrees, as best as I could tell, over true level. The rear sensors were not close to leveI and, poor results there were expected. I had recessed the front two outside sensors for a more stealth install over where they had originally been placed. After listening to BRD's recommendations, I pulled the two outside sensors back out a little bit to where they had been originally. Honestly, I don't think the emitter portions of the outside sensors were obstructed or, enclosed in anyway where they were for the test. I also don't believe one or, two degrees deviation up or, down would be the determining factor in a punch through. After seeing some of my results on test day shortly after some of the runs, I know there were several LIDARS where I was JTG. But not with the PL3 and, the Prolite where I had a couple of random punch throughs. Was it the 1 or 2 degree elevated heads or, the slightly recessed outside sensors that caused them? I don't think so. I think I have a large metallic silver, chrome beast that is very hard to cover. Every once in a while with precise, concentrated shooting, a LIDAR, will get enough pulses reflected to render a speed. I also believe that in order to be jack of all trades the ALP is not the complete master of one or two. If my install was weak I don't think I would have done so well with the TSsv where I believe I had only one sub 200' punch through or, the DE compact where I was JTG. I spent several hours yesterday fiddling with my sensors and, now have them as close to level as possible. Now it's time to get serious about cutting down on the reflective qualities of the front and rear of my Flex. I hope VG gets G5 to market soon, because that and some protective plastic covering is definitely part of my plan.
Adding a third head to the car will fix that problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by specifics