[FURIOUS] ALP is only jamming when signal is detected

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Originally Posted by OrlNmE

I have mine set to 4 seconds, and I still use my kill switch if I reach reasonable speeds before the time to stop jamming occurs.

I can see ALP forcing the time limit and only allowing testers the opportunity to JTG or something like that. This one will be a tough one to resolve and prevent the JTG.

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Probably could be done using a code only unlimited setting with new purchase.

Good point Tom, 9 seconds is way to long. Maybe having it set to a lessor amount from the factory will help prevent JTG. In my opinion, maybe 6 seconds should more than enough.

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Originally Posted by BestRadarDetectors

We are basically left with 2 choices... Leave things alone or remove the unlimited option. There are really no other options to the problem. I honestly feel that if you cant slow in 9 seconds while being targeted then its just as good as a JTG. The good thing is by default all systems are set to 4 seconds and many people run the ALP with the default settings.

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9 seconds is, for all practical purposes, a JTG. Let's say you're cruising along at 75 mph (110 feet/sec) and a LEO hits you from 1000' away. In those 9 seconds you're basically on top of the LEO (okay, not really, because you've slowed down a bit). But it's super suspicious AND for any shots 800' away and less it's likely a JTG anyway. Unfortunately, 9 seconds JTK time makes it a real pain to test your jammers if you're cruising along at 25-30 mph on a 1000' long course. I don't see what removing the unlimited LID time would do as it won't prevent people who aren't knowledgeable from JTG in the vast majority of cases, except maybe in really long, 1500-2000' shots, and even then, it won't do anything to remove the suspicion associated with not being able to get a reading for a full 9 seconds.

How about including either a booklet, or a URL, in red, on the invoice for every ALP system that educates people on proper usage? Limiting the LID time is never a substitute for proper education.

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Originally Posted by OrlNmE

Good point Tom, 9 seconds is way to long. Maybe having it set to a lessor amount from the factory will help prevent JTG. In my opinion, maybe 6 seconds should more than enough.

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Default setting is 4 seconds. Anyone who changes it from that value knows what they're doing. In a close-in shot, even 4 seconds could be JTG so again, proper education is necessary. I usually try to JTK within 2 seconds.

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Originally Posted by awj223

9 seconds is, for all practical purposes, a JTG. Let's say you're cruising along at 75 mph (110 feet/sec) and a LEO hits you from 1000' away. In those 9 seconds you're basically on top of the LEO (okay, not really, because you've slowed down a bit). But it's super suspicious AND for any shots 800' away and less it's likely a JTG anyway. Unfortunately, 9 seconds JTK time makes it a real pain to test your jammers if you're cruising along at 25-30 mph on a 1000' long course. I don't see what removing the unlimited LID time would do as it won't prevent people who aren't knowledgeable from JTG in the vast majority of cases, except maybe in really long, 1500-2000' shots, and even then, it won't do anything to remove the suspicion associated with not being able to get a reading for a full 9 seconds.

How about including either a booklet, or a URL, in red, on the invoice for every ALP system that educates people on proper usage? Limiting the LID time is never a substitute for proper education.

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Its not about them not being educated... There are a select few that think its fun to do it and no education is going to change these peoples attitudes towards it.

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Originally Posted by awj223

Default setting is 4 seconds. Anyone who changes it from that value knows what they're doing. In a close-in shot, even 4 seconds could be JTG so again, proper education is necessary. I usually try to JTK within 2 seconds.

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There is another Lider the polis, better add to the education as well :D

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Originally Posted by BestRadarDetectors

Its not about them not being educated... There are a select few that think its fun to do it and no education is going to change these peoples attitudes towards it.

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I don't think there's much you can do if people are deliberately being malicious. Nothing's going to stop them from circling around, hiding behind other cars, and popping out at the last moment for a JTG, even if their LID time was forced to be 4 seconds. Eventually they'll grow up or they'll get a ticket for jammer use or something else and they'll learn not to do that.

I have observed another concerning operational "feature."

After the unit drops back to "green" mode after hitting it's jamming timeout, not only does it not jam anymore (expected), but it no longer beeps either. That's with pro mode on or off.

Maybe that's another "feature" to protect you from a LEO who may have pulled you over – and would be able to hear the alarm – while another LEO is using a LiDAR. It would give you a minute to disable your jammer before it

No offense, but this is like lining up super models and critiquing their looks. These are the best LJs on the market that jam the best LIDAR guns on the market. With a proper setup, you are going to be near LIDAR-proof in the real world.

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Originally Posted by orwellophile

I have observed another concerning operational "feature."

After the unit drops back to "green" mode after hitting it's jamming timeout, not only does it not jam anymore (expected), but it no longer beeps either. That's with pro mode on or off.

Maybe that's another "feature" to protect you from a LEO who may have pulled you over – and would be able to hear the alarm – while another LEO is using a LiDAR. It would give you a minute to disable your jammer before it

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I will agree the 1 min start up can some times be annoying specially my self there is handheld or a poliscan set up 30 seconds from my house ,,,how ever some times it not a bad thing incase you get pulled over at least if the leo asks what they are and takes a shot at them he has minute to work out there jammers ,,refering back to one of your other posts I have set my ultralyte in survey mode ,,,,in survey made the gun will take distant reading basically all the way down to zero ft ,,,standing 5 ft 10 ft 15 ft 20 ft the ALP will alert and jam even though the lidar beam is so tight

stick to your ALP mate its the best jammer made to this day

mine goes to defense straight away on the first morning start . only when i get a the first hit ,then goes to the sixty sec re- arm , but if u use kill switch its bak on again straight away

I have to remind though the ALP has the same characteristics as other antilaser products ,,for example if we have one minute warm up ,,AL will not arm up even if a we where to hold out lidar gun constant past 3 minutes or more ,,so there is nothing new there ,

this also goes if lidar is present when the AL products start up even if the AL is constant jam mode the ALP will not arm up

,if you get targeted while being in warm up mode it only delays the warm up time,,,the LI will also not alert while being in parking mode but soon as it says parking mode deactivated you will get an alert instant ,,where is AL will keep rejecting until the threat is clear

as for JTG you can thank blinder for that,,,,,,,,, wasn't it scott who made vids of the blinder JTG police all day long and thought it was COOL

as for the FURIUS name to the post he claims to have a PL3 ,,where is the PTs come on guys he is winding you up