New Dragon guns out ?

[Nanook]

Tom or otheres..is ther a recent Dragon Eye gun release by chance...these guys testing have had issues...read this
http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c7-z06-discussion/3641446-al-priority-system-installed.html#post1590374064

[BestRadarDetectors]

No new dragons but if he is using the wrong ports he will have issues. For some reason several installers don't read the instructions and use the F1 & F3 or if using 3 they are not using the center in F2.

[Nanook]

Okay I'll pass this on to him thanks

[BestRadarDetectors]

Okay I'll pass this on to him thanks
We tested several cars at the last meet and everyone assured me their setups were done correctly but as soon as they started shooting the dragon guns I could immediately tell 3 systems were incorretly installed and I even noted on the sheets that they had port errors.

[Z062015]

Tom this is the install on the z06 that you guided me through several months ago. I just went back and checked from the controller and it said connected sensors f2,f1,r2,r1 so I'm sure the sensors are in these ports. Are these not the correct ports? I'm using the latest update from July.
Herman

[dinkydi]

Tom or otheres..is ther a recent Dragon Eye gun release by chance...these guys testing have had issues...read this
http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c7-z06-discussion/3641446-al-priority-system-installed.html#post1590374064

the sensors on that car dont seem to be aligned correctly the outer ones seem to follow the front contours of the car

[Nanook]

Not the orange car...another yellow car not shown

[BestRadarDetectors]

Post pictures of the vehicle here and I can assist. I am not creating more accounts on more forums.

Also just because sensors show Front & Rear sensors attached it does not mean dealer is not mixing front and rear ports. There can be lots of issues with wiring if care is not taken.

[Z062015]

Post pictures of the vehicle here and I can assist. I am not creating more accounts on more forums.

Also just because sensors show Front & Rear sensors attached it does not mean dealer is not mixing front and rear ports. There can be lots of issues with wiring if care is not taken.

I just pulled the undertray on the dash. The wires from the front sensors are connected to f1 and f2. The wires from the rear sensors are connected to r1 x and r2. I wanted to re-check them. When I was doing the install you told me to make sure that I hooked them up that way and that's what I did. The car is bright yellow and the grill is black so I'm having a hard time getting photo's that show up well the sensors are level and don't follow the contours of the car. 4714

[RedRocket]

Tom or otheres..is ther a recent Dragon Eye gun release by chance...these guys testing have had issues...read this
http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c7-z06-discussion/3641446-al-priority-system-installed.html#post1590374064Interesting read on the 'Vette Forum.
You need to educate those guys w/ a crash course on proper "JTK" etiquette...especially that noob from Nebraska who was sweatin' Troopers there b/c Laser defense is illegal in Wheat/Corn Country.

I also took a look at "badhabit wb" install for you & you may pass on I see his problem. His Dual AL-P Sensors are spaced to far apart (I measured ~26-27") & much to wide spaced for ANY D.E.T. Lidar. I state this as from personal experience as a Shooter & have done the same to others who didn't do a proper install. I would also agree w/ you about both Sensors appearing to be pitched outward in the pix I looked at. My most recent IPT at any distance was a Black Tesla S w/ a Dual AL-P w/ 27 1/2" spacing...I sliced thru him like a hot knife thru warm butter !

N.C. dude can keep a Dual by moving his closer together (22-24" max separation) or space them even wider but then add a 3rd Sensor in CM.

[Nanook]

He's here with us as Z062015 now so he'll see your post

[Z062015]

I just pulled a tape along the contour of the front and it was 25 1/2" between the sensor. It looked like 24 3/4" actually between the inside edges of both sensors. If you think that's the problem I can move them closer together or if it would be better buy another sensor. The rear sensors are only 20" apart and I had the same results with pt's.4715

[BestRadarDetectors]

How old is the system? Was it purchased new from us?

[RedRocket]

I just pulled a tape along the contour of the front and it was 25 1/2" between the sensor. It looked like 24 3/4" actually between the inside edges of both sensors. If you think that's the problem I can move them closer together or if it would be better buy another sensor. The rear sensors are only 20" apart and I had the same results with pt's.I'm more conservative than most b/c I understand from the Shooters perspective just how dangerous the D.E.T. Lidars are...especially the very tight laser beam from the "Compact" model. I prefer spacings to be in a tighter window of 18-22". Those outboard TLs on a 'Vette are easy pickin's.

I was getting the same IPTs on the Rear of member "jibiki's" White 'Vette at the most recent NJ Meet. We were all sooo burned-out from the 99 degree heat & extreme humidity I never got a chance to take a good look at his install to find what was wrong.

[Z062015]

Let me know if you find out. The sensors are 20" apart and I know he was shooting the tail lights.

[Z062015]

I got them from you. I pm'd you on another forum and you told me to get the quad setup with the sti-r plus. Here is the info

Order number: A10663
Order Date: 2/25/2015

[BestRadarDetectors]

Were are you located? Are you running current firmware? We're you in Unlimited Jamming? Can't tell you how many systems we test with LID at 4 seconds and of course at 5+ seconds it's IPT.

[Z062015]

I'm in NC I loaded the current firmware in early August. I had a problem with the voice pack so I loaded the male voice over the female and then reloaded the female voice pack. It all seemed to be working properly. I was set in unlimited jamming for the test. Fwiw I had it set the same for the 3 other guns and it jammed them all the way to the gun front and rear.These are the guns used.
1. LTi LRB

2. Stalker XLR

3. LTi TruSpeed S compact

4. Dragon Ally compact

[BestRadarDetectors]

If it jammed the balance of the guns but just not the dragon your heads are not straight and square or heads are in wrong ports. Alignment issues are very critical with dragon guns. 5 degrees off with make a big difference. I can explain more over the phone only if you want to call me on Monday.

[Z062015]

Thanks I'll call on Monday.

[RedRocket]

I just pulled a tape along the contour of the front and it was 25 1/2" between the sensor. It looked like 24 3/4" actually between the inside edges of both sensors. If you think that's the problem I can move them closer together or if it would be better buy another sensor.I measure center-of-bubble to center-of-bubble b/c the receiving function is the more critical function in this case.
That makes you close to 27" & a primary factor I believe.

[Z062015]

It's around 26 1/4" on the front and 23 1/2 on the back. The bubble is inboard on the front and outboard on the rear. Does it matter how they are oriented? Thanks.

[Z062015]

Thanks for your help and advice Tom.

[jdong]

It's around 26 1/4" on the front and 23 1/2 on the back. The bubble is inboard on the front and outboard on the rear. Does it matter how they are oriented? Thanks.

Bubble orientation generally doesn't matter, the net effect is basically the 1 inch difference in bubble to bubble distance. The bubble is where the receiver is.

[Z062015]

Bubble orientation generally doesn't matter, the net effect is basically the 1 inch difference in bubble to bubble distance. The bubble is where the receiver is.

Thanks. I'm going to remove and re-install the heads and make sure they are closer together and aligned and level. Once I get that done i'll try to get my hands on another dragoneye.