ALP issue ?

[Nanook]

Today I received a photo laser coupon in the mail issuesd June 22 and also got one June 18...both laser rear overpass ...one at 125m and the other 119 meters...both were almost identical locations and time..I do recallone alert but not the other..but that doesn't mean it didn't alert..just tested and all three heads are receiving..nothing has changed on my setup except doing the latest firmware upgrades...comments?...I think I have to adjust jamming time (longer).....I'd be the first to claim user error but could the dragon be coming more lethal ?

[Tman]

Bad news in the mail :fatigue: .

What is the jamming time ? Do you think they got you because of too short timer ?

'' I think I have to adjust jamming time (longer)''

Seems that rear protection is much harder to achieve , what is the separation distance of your heads ? I know that Vpr guns appreciate too much separation.

[Nanook]

Had set to 4 secs...just changed to 8...I usually switch system off completely..maybe I was too premature..not paying attention..the current set up has worked umpteen times in the past so I was thinking maybe a change in the gun or a change in the firmware..or a user error (likely)

Here are three rear heads..field tested JFG in the past

http://gpchase.zenfolio.com/img/s7/v163/p633753929-6.jpg

[Nanook]

On another note I do recall at least 3 or 4 rear photo laser events recently (last 4 weeks) with no citations so someting is working..or maybe I wasn't illegal

[BestRadarDetectors]

Where are you located? Are these Poliscan?

[Nanook]

Alberta..Dragoneye

[Tman]

Distance seems ideal , should not be the problem. Though you have a lot of nice chrome to defend. I nave my idea to cut down chrome reflectivity but never tested it in real world.

It is to apply a thin coat of waterborne acrylic transparent to dull the chrome , easily removeable with methanol . This is found in hobby shop in paint section.

[Nanook]

I could easily deal with the chrome with black plastidip but it's never been an issue in the past...I think some testing may soon be in order

[BestRadarDetectors]

Just noticed your photo's and at first thought you had a dual in the rear but realized you have a triple with the 3rd head all the way to the ground... I remember telling you in the past that having 3 heads would cause PT's with the center head so low against dragon guns. You are better off running a dual and you would have better protection.

[BestRadarDetectors]

See this thread and my exact response to you back then:

http://radarandlaserforum.com/showthread.php/4579-VPR-Advice-Here-is-What-You-Need-to-Know?p=23858&viewfull=1#post23858

"Its not Taboo... The head mounted so low will cause you PT's against the newer DragonCam's which you will most likely see if they are shooting you in the rear and you are getting Laser Ally alerts. You can move it higher and it will play nice up there or move it to the front which will be more helpful to the install in the front. More heads is not always better especially if they are not placed optimally to work with each other. "

[Nanook]

As I mentioned LID was 4..just now I changed to 8..I always try to slow..then switch off...as I say it is very possible I shut down before slowing sufficiently but doubt it

[Nanook]

Well I could unplug it I guess if it's detrimental

http://gpchase.zenfolio.com/img/s11/v3/p1288919757-6.jpg

http://gpchase.zenfolio.com/img/s12/v178/p1288916156-6.jpg

[BestRadarDetectors]

Remove the bottom head and put it in the front and leave the 2 in the license plate area and you will have better protection. If you just disconnect the bottom sensor you will need to move the ports and correct them and use the correct R1 & R2 ports and use the F1 & F2 ports for the front sensors.

[Nanook]

Okay..appreciate the advice

[BestRadarDetectors]

As I mentioned LID was 4..just now I changed to 8..I always try to slow..then switch off...as I say it is very possible I shut down before slowing sufficiently but doubt it
You got hit with a newer Dragoneye DragonCam I have no doubt about it and LID time did not cause the issue the install did. In the past you might have been hit with older Laser Ally DragonCam's where your install would have Been sufficient.

[Nanook]

Must I do a default reset after re-configure?

[BestRadarDetectors]

Must I do a default reset after re-configure?
Yes, Also realize a rear shot especially on a DragonCam will be focused on your license plate. The 2 heads in the license plate area where you have them would have saved you and bought you plenty of time to slow. The 3rd head on the bottom really screws the process all up. 3 heads works great if you spread heads out and keep one dead center.

[Tman]

'' You got hit with a newer Dragoneye DragonCam I have no doubt about it ''

Curiosity ticks me : how do you deduct this conclusion , if it is not too indiscreet ?

Also , do you think about dulling his chrome , is it of any help ?

Thanks.

[BestRadarDetectors]

'' You got hit with a newer Dragoneye DragonCam I have no doubt about it ''

Curiosity ticks me : how do you deduct this conclusion , if it is not too indiscreet ?

Also , do you think about dulling his chrome , is it of any help ?

Thanks.
The rear head to the ground is what caused the failure. I knew it would happen and warned against this install when it was done. Re-read the original install thread.

[Tman]

We should use this case as an intox tool toward leos : those things don't work .

[radargeek]

How far apart are the heads above the plate? They could be spread a little further apart if they're under 22-24" apart. Or put all 3 heads above the rear plate, one centered and the other two as far out as possible. That will cover your taillights better.

[Rocketman59]

Ok, I have a question. If I was driving in Canada with US Plates. Do they come after me? What if i do not pay and plan to never come back to this friendly country. Was this a manned operation? If so was it a LEO running it or some low paid flunky? Inquiring minds would like to know!:frusty:

[Nanook]

No enforcement of a US plate whatsoever unless the province and state have a mutual as do some province to province...ultimately nothing would likely result...now if you were issued a paper citation you would be required to appear in court if you wished to dispute...or pay if a voluntary fine...if you did neither and were stopped subsequently there may be a warrant out for you which would likley involve an arrest and fine payable in front of a magistrate..default could result in jail..afaik.... we offer no payment on the spot for aliens in Alberta that I'm aware of

[Nanook]

Took your advice and mounted that low rear head to the front center...do you think it would be better at the lower silver valence or okay at the current location ?
http://gpchase.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v44/p1301509759-6.jpg

[RedRocket]

Took your advice and mounted that low rear head to the front center...do you think it would be better at the lower silver valence or okay at the current location ?Leave it where you have it, it's much more in line w/ the other 2 & will perform fine for you. Are all the Fronts Sensor type "II's" (or "P2xxxx") ?

[Nanook]

Not sure ...what's the difference ?..

Here they are:
http://gpchase.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v103/p1302392157-6.jpg

[RedRocket]

Not sure ...what's the difference ?..It's important for wiring to the F1,F2,F3 input Ports of the Control Box. If all 3 are "P2xxxx" serial numbers (Sensor 3ft pigtail wire has a White label near the connector) it doesn't matter.
Do you still have the boxes the Sensors came in...serial #'s are also on the box ?

[Nanook]

Yes see my previous amended post..they are all P2XXX generation and properly imput into ports F1/F2/F3...F2 being the center sensor

[RedRocket]

You're good to go !

[Nanook]

Bueno thanks :whoo::thumbs2: