Explanation of "Radar filter thresholds"?

[wirelessandy]

Can someone clarify what the "Radar filter thresholds" do?

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In this screenshot, the defaults are 3 (yellow) and 5 (red), for example.

1 is full alert, 10 is no alert, says the pop-up bubble.

Just what does this mean? If set to 1, does that mean the radar unit will alert at the slightest signal? Would 10 mean it won't alert unless the signal has maxed out to full?

[BestRadarDetectors]

Can someone clarify what the "Radar filter thresholds" do?

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In this screenshot, the defaults are 3 (yellow) and 5 (red), for example.

1 is full alert, 10 is no alert, says the pop-up bubble.

Just what does this mean? If set to 1, does that mean the radar unit will alert at the slightest signal? Would 10 mean it won't alert unless the signal has maxed out to full?

The ALP gives you custom city filters and you can adjust the sensitivity of the antenna to reduce unwanted false alerts in the city. I personally run in Highway which would be equivalent to running with all filters off but you can play around with the sliders to find a sensitivity that you are comfortable with. You can choose 2 filters (Red & Yellow) and each give you an option for separate X & K sensitivity for each band.

[modsl55amg]

The ALP gives you custom city filters and you can adjust the sensitivity of the antenna to reduce unwanted false alerts in the city. I personally run in Highway which would be equivalent to running with all filters off but you can play around with the sliders to find a sensitivity that you are comfortable with. You can choose 2 filters (Red & Yellow) and each give you an option for separate X & K sensitivity for each band.

Tom, With your answer above in mind, I am about to have an ALP Quad w/HiFi and GPS installed in my second car. (First car had ALP Quad w/HiFi and GPS, along with a full STiR Plus system installed). I need to make a decision as to whether I will have a separate complete STiR Plus system installed, or have an Escort 9500ci antenna, or an STiR Plus antenna, installed as a part of the new ALP Quad system. I will not be using a smart phone. I am aware of the features I will not have by installing a 9500ci or STiR Plus antenna on the ALP system.

Do you have a recommendation ? What system/systems do you have in your personal car ?

Thanks in advance !

[radargeek]

If you want GPS lockouts or frequency display, I'd recommend getting a full STiR+ or 9500ci system (or a windshield mount RD) installed.

The only real advantage to integrating with ALP is to consolidate alerts and to display everything on one display (if you were going to use the smartphone app).

[BestRadarDetectors]

Tom, With your answer above in mind, I am about to have an ALP Quad w/HiFi and GPS installed in my second car. (First car had ALP Quad w/HiFi and GPS, along with a full STiR Plus system installed). I need to make a decision as to whether I will have a separate complete STiR Plus system installed, or have an Escort 9500ci antenna, or an STiR Plus antenna, installed as a part of the new ALP Quad system. I will not be using a smart phone. I am aware of the features I will not have by installing a 9500ci or STiR Plus antenna on the ALP system.

Do you have a recommendation ? What system/systems do you have in your personal car ?

Thanks in advance !

I use Sti-R Integration in both my cars but false alerts dont bother me. If false alerts are a nuisance and you want to ignore them you need to go full Sti-R Plus at this time.

[awj223]

If you want GPS lockouts or frequency display, I'd recommend getting a full STiR+ or 9500ci system (or a windshield mount RD) installed.

The only real advantage to integrating with ALP is to consolidate alerts and to display everything on one display (if you were going to use the smartphone app).

I use the integrated STiR+ system, but I don't get falses despite not having GPS due to only running one Ka segment. If I had to run K band frequently, I'd go with the full STiR+ for GPS lockouts or the Stinger (the latter would assume that I don't mind paying almost $5k for the RD system and being a guinea pig for testing what's basically a work in progress). Benefits to running the Stinger would be that you'd get arrows, kinda like the V1, but in an integrated setup, but this requires a pricey purchase of a second antenna, which alone costs more than the entire STiR+ system, CPU and all.

The frequency display issue should be resolved once the AL Display comes out (but to my knowledge, there is not even an estimated date for its release). That's my only complaint about the integrated RD system at the moment; I intend to buy the AL Display when it comes out.

[modsl55amg]

I use the integrated STiR+ system, but I don't get falses despite not having GPS due to only running one Ka segment. If I had to run K band frequently, I'd go with the full STiR+ for GPS lockouts or the Stinger (the latter would assume that I don't mind paying almost $5k for the RD system and being a guinea pig for testing what's basically a work in progress). Benefits to running the Stinger would be that you'd get arrows, kinda like the V1, but in an integrated setup, but this requires a pricey purchase of a second antenna, which alone costs more than the entire STiR+ system, CPU and all.

The frequency display issue should be resolved once the AL Display comes out (but to my knowledge, there is not even an estimated date for its release). That's my only complaint about the integrated RD system at the moment; I intend to buy the AL Display when it comes out.

Thanks for the advice awj223. As I really do not drive extremely fast very often, an ALP Quad w/HiFi & GPS system, along with a full STiR+ system will most likely be what I have installed in my second car. Here in NJ, LEOs still use K-band units, I believe, as well as Ka-band units. I also drive thru Delaware, to Maryland. I do not presently use a smart phone app, nor will I in the future. No matter how good the Stinger system may prove to be in the future, the thought of dropping 5K on that system, plus installation, does not make sense for my driving style. I wish, as you and many others also do, that the display for the ALP system was presently available. I do realize that ALP has more important things to do at the present time and that the ALP display will, hopefully, be available in the future. As the control units for the ALP and the STiR+ will be custom/flush installed in a rectangular storage bin, with a closing cover, in my car's center console area, as will the ALP display (when available), I wish I knew the approximate measurements of the proposed ALP display, in order to place the ALP and STiR+ control units in such a way that there will be appropriate room for the ALP display unit. I'll just have to do the best I can now, and make modifications when the ALP display becomes available in the future. Anyway, Thanks again for your thoughts on the matter.

[theaudir8fan]

same here, if the display is available, I would be willing to get the radar integration, but because it's not and I'm not willing to go without seeing the frequency of radar signals, i have to settle for running a windshield mounted detector

[BestRadarDetectors]

same here, if the display is available, I would be willing to get the radar integration, but because it's not and I'm not willing to go without seeing the frequency of radar signals, i have to settle for running a windshield mounted detector
Display keeps getting pushed back for more important projects. I don't have an ETA. If you use ALP Connect you will get frequency display.

[awj223]

same here, if the display is available, I would be willing to get the radar integration, but because it's not and I'm not willing to go without seeing the frequency of radar signals, i have to settle for running a windshield mounted detector

Why don't you get the full STiR+ system? Even when AL gets the AL Display, it won't have GPS lockouts.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Why don't you get the full STiR+ system? Even when AL gets the AL Display, it won't have GPS lockouts.

Hmmm

[wirelessandy]

In a twist of coincidence, I just ordered the STI-R plus.

[BestRadarDetectors]

In a twist of coincidence, I just ordered the STI-R plus.
Who did you order from? You probably paid too much if you did not get it from us.

[RedRocket]

HmmmMight that hmmm be a "tell" ?:friendly_wink:

[BestRadarDetectors]

Might that hmmm be a "tell" ?:friendly_wink:

Hmmm... Means dont be so sure it will not happen and that is all I can say at the moment.

[theaudir8fan]

Display keeps getting pushed back for more important projects. I don't have an ETA. If you use ALP Connect you will get frequency display.

I fully understand that there are more important projects, but I do wish it will happen soon. Personally, I don't like to have my phone out and mounted with the display on all the time when driving, it's just inconvenient.


Why don't you get the full STiR+ system? Even when AL gets the AL Display, it won't have GPS lockouts.

Because the extra install that would be needed and the additional cost, also the STIR+'s display and remote has been out on the market for a really long time, I'm fully expecting an updated version from BelScort soon with color display like the passport Max. I have the Max right now so it does the job, but I would like something that is fully integrated


Hmmm

Oh please add that, I would be even more tempted :thumb:

[BestRadarDetectors]

ALP development schedule is already full for 2015. Constant inprovements and new features will be coming.. Stay tuned.

[nynjcommuter]

Thanks for the advice awj223. Here in NJ, LEOs still use K-band units, I believe, as well as Ka-band units.


Hi, I in nj too and commute to NY (gsp from ocean county) after driving a year and not gotten any K and X band from Leo's I turned them off, if you have had any K or X band please let me know. I believe those bands are rarely rarely used, (RD band use in other forums are old data) I see new police cars all over they don"t use the old cars with old systems. If you have been hit from a leo with K or X please let me know.
Thanks

[BestRadarDetectors]

Hi, I in nj too and commute to NY (gsp from ocean county) after driving a year and not gotten any K and X band from Leo's I turned them off, if you have had any K or X band please let me know. I believe those bands are rarely rarely used, (RD band use in other forums are old data) I see new police cars all over they don"t use the old cars with old systems. If you have been hit from a leo with K or X please let me know.
Thanks

Are you kidding? K band is all over NJ and you will still also see X Band.

[nynjcommuter]

Are you kidding? K band is all over NJ and you will still also see X Band.

I was saying from experience that I have not seen K or X band comming from a leo, I did get plenty K and X bands alerts but never from a leo (only once in a local area in hudson valley NY I was alerted K band and then I saw a leo in a gas station which still does not confirm it was from the leo since there was an auto door near him). It may just be my area and route I travel which is mostly big highways like the GSP (route 9 sometimes), ny 440, I 278 in NY, FDR, west side highway, LIE (sometimes), these are patrolled by highway patrol with newer cars, maybe there are some small townships in NJ still using old cruisers with K and X band. where and how long ago have you seen K and X band coming from A leo?

[BestRadarDetectors]

I was saying from experience that I have not seen K or X band comming from a leo, I did get plenty K and X bands alerts but never from a leo (only once in a local area in hudson valley NY I was alerted K band and then I saw a leo in a gas station which still does not confirm it was from the leo since there was an auto door near him). It may just be my area and route I travel which is mostly big highways like the GSP (route 9 sometimes), ny 440, I 278 in NY, FDR, west side highway, LIE (sometimes), these are patrolled by highway patrol with newer cars, maybe there are some small townships in NJ still using old cruisers with K and X band. where and how long ago have you seen K and X band coming from A leo?

Several times a week. You cant not turn off K band in NJ. You will get nailed. I am in Jackson and I see a real X Band hit at least 1-2 times a month still on 195/295 but see plenty of K band on the GSP and Turnpike. You need to turn it back on before you get a not so pleasant surprise.

[RedRocket]

^ - One of our members was shot w/ an LTI TruCam on the GSP last week. Heavy Laser enforcement on the LIE & surrounding Metro area of the Big Apple. Also lotta Red Light & speed cameras are in use,too.

[nynjcommuter]

^ - One of our members was shot w/ an LTI TruCam on the GSP last week. Heavy Laser enforcement on the LIE & surrounding Metro area of the Big Apple. Also lotta Red Light & speed cameras are in use,too.

On gsp in my area (exit 90 to 127) I have seen laser only 1-2 in about 3 years. Around the big apple (LIE) I have seen laser more.

[nynjcommuter]

Several times a week. You cant not turn off K band in NJ. You will get nailed. I am in Jackson and I see a real X Band hit at least 1-2 times a month still on 195/295 but see plenty of K band on the GSP and Turnpike. You need to turn it back on before you get a not so pleasant surprise.

On the 195 between howel and GSP I haven"t seen anything other than KA. I"m not saying it"s not out there but after driving my regular route for more than a year with no X or K band I feel comfortable leaving them off (with waze as a backup), Its not worth keeping it on, because of the false alerts they were anyways mostly ignored (for the maybe once a year K band it may not help). In new areas I do sometimes turn them on.