ALP Question please

[V8MBO]

Hi Guys,

A question please,

Is it possible to unplug a usb from a live alp and instantly ( or nearly ) turn it back in to a parking system only with No Jamming?

Cheers.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Hi Guys,

A question please,

Is it possible to unplug a usb from a live alp and instantly ( or nearly ) turn it back in to a parking system only with No Jamming?

Cheers.

You dont need a USB inserted to run it unless you installed a security key. Many people keep 2 USB Drives in their cars with different color USB Sticks with different settings. It only takes 1-2 seconds to load up a new settings file so yes you could switch back and forth relatively easy.

[V8MBO]

Cheers BRD,

I see what you mean but what I am looking for is when the usb is removed the alp is instantly ( more or less ) turned in to a pure ( and thus legal ) parking system, ie no usb, no jamming so problems with the cops, the situation would be " Alarm goes off, I unplug the usb and hey presto, its a parking system, Instantly by just pulling and disposing of the usb " thus mr police man is none the wiser..

see what I mean?

[dukes]

Cheers BRD,

I see what you mean but what I am looking for is when the usb is removed the alp is instantly ( more or less ) turned in to a pure ( and thus legal ) parking system, ie no usb, no jamming so problems with the cops, the situation would be " Alarm goes off, I unplug the usb and hey presto, its a parking system, Instantly by just pulling and disposing of the usb " thus mr police man is none the wiser..

see what I mean?

Your looking for Privacy Mode then, just note once you complete the process on your unit its permanent.

[V8MBO]

Hi Dukes,

Sorry how does that work then? I have LPPs just now and am moving to ALPs so its all new to me : ) sorry if I am asking dumb questions!!

[dukes]

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[dukes]

Remember you cannot turn this off once activated!!

[BestRadarDetectors]

Cheers BRD,

I see what you mean but what I am looking for is when the usb is removed the alp is instantly ( more or less ) turned in to a pure ( and thus legal ) parking system, ie no usb, no jamming so problems with the cops, the situation would be " Alarm goes off, I unplug the usb and hey presto, its a parking system, Instantly by just pulling and disposing of the usb " thus mr police man is none the wiser..

see what I mean?

There are tons of features and options to customize the ALP almost anyway you want. Also realize that if used properly you will not really inform the officer that you are jamming them. By default the ALP will only defend for 4 seconds and then give them a reading. This is selectable from 3-9 seconds. Lets say you keep the default at 4 seconds and you are hit and immediately slow you can hit any button on the controller to instantly kill the ALP so that they will get a reading sooner and you will be less obvious. Once killed the ALP will go into parking mode for the next 60 seconds automatically before going back into defense mode. If for some reason you get pulled over you can keep a parking USB Drive in your glove box along with your insurance papers so you can switch the system into parking only at that time and not be obvious and suspicious.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Remember you cannot turn this off once activated!!

X2... There are plenty of features available to use before I would use a security key. There is no way to reverse this and if you do not backup your key and loose it you will render your system useless.

[V8MBO]

Cheers Guys,

I am aware of the shut off when hit as I have had jammers for years, But if the police spot the head units and then switch the system on and it jams I am in trouble,
HOWEVER if they fire up the system Without the usb inserted and its Just a parking sensor I am fine, ie attached and presumably with this setting and no usb its just a parking system?

great forum btw and very helpful, thanks!!



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[BestRadarDetectors]

Cheers Guys,

I am aware of the shut off when hit as I have had jammers for years, But if the police spot the head units and then switch the system on and it jams I am in trouble,
HOWEVER if they fire up the system Without the usb inserted and its Just a parking sensor I am fine, ie attached and presumably with this setting and no usb its just a parking system?

great forum btw and very helpful, thanks!!


You can also install the ALP GPS Antenna and the system will not fire back or defend if you are not driving over a set threshold.

[V8MBO]

Very cool : ) so I can set it to xyz mph and it wont return fire!! While I have been very happy with the LPP these seem miles ahead : )

Thanks again for your help guys.

[dukes]

Very cool : ) so I can set it to xyz mph and it wont return fire!! While I have been very happy with the LPP these seem miles ahead : )

Thanks again for your help guys.

Yep you got it
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[BestRadarDetectors]

Very cool : ) so I can set it to xyz mph and it wont return fire!! While I have been very happy with the LPP these seem miles ahead : )

Thanks again for your help guys.

Correct.. So lets say you set the LID Speed Limit to 24mph, It will only activate when you are traveling 25mph or more. If you are at 30MPH and hit and hit the brakes as soon as you reach 24mph it will automatically stop defending if you did not already kill it by the timer or pressing any button to kill it.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Yep you got it
3604

That is the Parking Alerts settings.. He would need to set the "Define LID SPEED limit" setting.

"Laser Interference Defense mechanism will not be activated unless you are moving at a greater speed than defined here; this option will be activated only if GPS-receiver is connected to the system."

[dukes]

That is the Parking Alerts settings.. He would need to set the "Define LID SPEED limit" setting.

"Laser Interference Defense mechanism will not be activated unless you are moving at a greater speed than defined here; this option will be activated only if GPS-receiver is connected to the system."

You caught me while editing :P lol

[V8MBO]

So just to confirm, if the alp is set to privacy and the Usb is in, its a jammer, Usb out and its only a parking sensor ?

Thanks again.

[BestRadarDetectors]

So just to confirm, if the alp is set to privacy and the Usb is in, its a jammer, Usb out and its only a parking sensor ?

Thanks again.

Its always a parking sensor but without the USB Key it will no longer go into defense mode... Once Privacy Mode is installed you also can not deactivate the feature so if you loose the Key File on that USB drive it will become a permanent parking sensor. I personally think you are better off using one of the many other options presented to you but the choice is yours.

[Tman]

Your idea is very good , i guess the only way to achieve your goal is by using the security key , some use it without issues...just keep many copies of your code in many placesB-)

[V8MBO]

Cheers Guys,

I will just make LOTS of usb keys, for me its the best way, if the police here in the uk were to discover it was a jammer I would be in very deep 5hit indeed,
This way if I get stopped or mr police gets too interested its just a case of pull and dispose of the usb key and nothing can be proven, even if he switches it on and off.

Thanks again guys for your help, this is a great fourm : )

Check this out as to what I mean .... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-31604908

[BestRadarDetectors]

Cheers Guys,

I will just make LOTS of usb keys, for me its the best way, if the police here in the uk were to discover it was a jammer I would be in very deep 5hit indeed,
This way if I get stopped or mr police gets too interested its just a case of pull and dispose of the usb key and nothing can be proven, even if he switches it on and off.

Thanks again guys for your help, this is a great fourm : )

Check this out as to what I mean .... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-31604908

Not sure why the person did not give them a reading. We cant stress the importance of slowing and giving them a reading. If you continue to Jam they will know what you are doing.

[V8MBO]

the guy is a idiot!!

[modsl55amg]

You dont need a USB inserted to run it unless you installed a security key. Many people keep 2 USB Drives in their cars with different color USB Sticks with different settings. It only takes 1-2 seconds to load up a new settings file so yes you could switch back and forth relatively easy.

BRD, I have my new ALP system set up with the following files (Uxxxxxxx.bin, UCSTHIFI.bin, VOICEPAK.ALP, setup.alp). per your detailed instructions in the "First Steps Required After Installing Your ALP Priority System" thread. I also have two USB Flashdrives in my car's armrest. One Flashdrive has the setup configuration to modify the ALP system to an Unlimited LID time for testing purposes only. The other Flashdrive has the setup configuration to modify the ALP system to the PDC Only function. QUESTION: What is the correct procedure in using the two USB Flashdrives? Do I leave the ALP system on, then insert the Flashdrive into the USB port, then remove the Flashdrive after it has completed its download? Do I have to turn the system off, then back on again to complete the download? Or is the download procedure complete after I remove the USB Flashdrive? Should the only file on the USB Flashdrive be the new setup.alp file that I want to download? Thanks in advance for your advice.

[BestRadarDetectors]

BRD, I have my new ALP system set up with the following files (Uxxxxxxx.bin, UCSTHIFI.bin, VOICEPAK.ALP, setup.alp). per your detailed instructions in the "First Steps Required After Installing Your ALP Priority System" thread. I also have two USB Flashdrives in my car's armrest. One Flashdrive has the setup configuration to modify the ALP system to an Unlimited LID time for testing purposes only. The other Flashdrive has the setup configuration to modify the ALP system to the PDC Only function. QUESTION: What is the correct procedure in using the two USB Flashdrives? Do I leave the ALP system on, then insert the Flashdrive into the USB port, then remove the Flashdrive after it has completed its download? Do I have to turn the system off, then back on again to complete the download? Or is the download procedure complete after I remove the USB Flashdrive? Should the only file on the USB Flashdrive be the new setup.alp file that I want to download? Thanks in advance for your advice.

Once all the updates are complete (Will take around 6 minutes if you have HiFi) you will no longer need to keep the firmware files on the USB Drives. If you want to switch settings just keep a different setup.alp file on each of your drives.

[Jaguar]

I'd just use the settings menu to return to defaults myself, if I was in a place I needed to be worried about it, it'd be in parking mode in seconds.

EDIT: Apparently this doesn't do what I thought it did. Dang.

[modsl55amg]

Once all the updates are complete (Will take around 6 minutes if you have HiFi) you will no longer need to keep the firmware files on the USB Drives. If you want to switch settings just keep a different setup.alp file on each of your drives.

Tom/BRD/Members: What is the correct procedure to perform when using a USB Flashdrive (setup.alp) to change the CONTROL BOX settings?

1. Do I leave the ALP system on, then insert the USB Flashdrive into the USB port, then remove the Flashdrive when the download is complete?
2. Do I have to turn the system OFF, then back ON, after the new CONTROL BOX settings download is complete?
3. Or do I just leave the system ON after the new CONTROL BOX settings download is complete?
3. From everything I have read and viewed, with the ALP system ON, I would just insert the Flashdrive, with the new settings I want, into the USB port, the system downloads the data in a few seconds, I then remove the drive, and I do not have to do anything else. Is this correct?

Thanks again for your help.

[modsl55amg]

I'd just use the settings menu to return to defaults myself, if I was in a place I needed to be worried about it, it'd be in parking mode in seconds.

Jaguar, Thanks for the info.

To clarify your answer, when you say "settings menu", are you talking about the manual input of various settings by using the Control Box buttons, as contained in the AL Priority User Guide? Specifically section 4.3.5, which is the "Restore Factory Default Settings and Memorize Number of Installed Sensors"?

If you are talking about using section 4.3.5 of the User Guide, will performing this programming sequence restore the ALP to a pure Parking Detection Only (PDC) mode of operation (as well as restoring all Control Box settings to the Factory Default settings), as described in the "Setup Your AL Priority Control Box" section from the ALP website?

Thanks again for your advice.

[V8MBO]

I'd just use the settings menu to return to defaults myself, if I was in a place I needed to be worried about it, it'd be in parking mode in seconds.

I see what you mean but my way the usb key can be removed in two seconds and there is no time wasted, and you cant be seen operating the controller, also I want it never to return to jam mode unless I want it to, ie key inserted, My way if the cops stop me I pull the usb and dump it in two seconds, and no matter what the police man does it wont become a jammer, thus no trouble.

[RedRocket]

Tom/BRD/Members: What is the correct procedure to perform when using a USB Flashdrive (setup.alp) to change the CONTROL BOX settings?

*During the last few f/w's there have upgrades to both the "Control Box" & the "Control Set",& I have loaded them both on the USB stick.

1. Do I leave the ALP system on, then insert the USB Flashdrive into the USB port, then remove the Flashdrive when the download is complete?-I don't,I have inserted the USB w/ the AL-P "OFF".
2. Do I have to turn the system OFF, then back ON, after the new CONTROL BOX settings download is complete?-Yes,after the "Control Box" f/w completes loading,I turm "OFF" the AL-P via the "Control Set" button...wait 10sec...then turn power back "ON" via the "Control Set" button. (this now causes the "Control Set" f/w to now load.)
3. Or do I just leave the system ON after the new CONTROL BOX settings download is complete?- Here's where I get more anal about removing anything "hot" (w/ power "ON")...after "Control Set" f/w completes loading,I then turn "OFF" power & consider it now ok to remove the USB stick safely !
3. From everything I have read and viewed, with the ALP system ON, I would just insert the Flashdrive, with the new settings I want, into the USB port, the system downloads the data in a few seconds, I then remove the drive, and I do not have to do anything else. Is this correct?- Only if you don't have a "Control Set" f/w to also upgrade.(I would still be overly cautious & turn power "OFF" before removing USB,but that's just me)

Thanks again for your help.Hope this helps.

[Robotpedlr]

Or ALP can change the fog light on/off/flashing button to quickly toggle PDC only mode / normal (per your setup) mode. That way you can quickly click the right button to switch between the two.

[tawwwd]

Or ALP can change the fog light on/off/flashing button to quickly toggle PDC only mode / normal (per your setup) mode. That way you can quickly click the right button to switch between the two.

They are. I requested that feature months ago as it was one of the first things I noticed lacking

[modsl55amg]

Hope this helps.

RedRocket. Thank you for your detailed answer. You mention turning the ALP OFF after a download is complete, in order to safely remove the Flashdrive. Then turn the ALP back ON, in order to have the ALP system complete the loading process. This is what also has to be done when I load a new program or change of program (update) into my laptop. It has to be turned OFF, then back ON, to complete the loading process.
Thanks again for your help!

[PAPACUCU]

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Do the words
"Once this feature is initiated the system will not work unless a USB memory drive with your unique key is plugged into the socket"
mean that the system will not work at all?
Not even in Parking Sensor mode?

[Jaguar]

Jaguar, Thanks for the info.

To clarify your answer, when you say "settings menu", are you talking about the manual input of various settings by using the Control Box buttons, as contained in the AL Priority User Guide? Specifically section 4.3.5, which is the "Restore Factory Default Settings and Memorize Number of Installed Sensors"?

If you are talking about using section 4.3.5 of the User Guide, will performing this programming sequence restore the ALP to a pure Parking Detection Only (PDC) mode of operation (as well as restoring all Control Box settings to the Factory Default settings), as described in the "Setup Your AL Priority Control Box" section from the ALP website?

Thanks again for your advice.

Correct, resetting to factory default is PDC mode only.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Correct, resetting to factory default is PDC mode only.
This is not correct. Running just the factory default command will reset the system to factory defaults which is actually LID = 4 so it will not go into parking only mode. It will go into default startup settings so it will go into parking for 60 seconds but then go back into defense mode after the startup period.

[modsl55amg]

This is not correct. Running just the factory default command will reset the system to factory defaults which is actually LID = 4 so it will not go into parking only mode. It will go into default startup settings so it will go into parking for 60 seconds but then go back into defense mode after the startup period.

Tom/BRD: Let me ask my question again, as it may be extremely important in a specific situation:

I am driving my car with my ALP on. The ALP has all of the latest and greatest firmware installed. The ALP is in the PDC & LID mode. The LED is blinking BLUE every second. An LEO comes up behind me with his lights on. I pull over to the side of the road. I want to immediately return my ALP to the PDC ONLY mode. I have a USB flash drive in my armrest with ONLY the Control Set firmware loaded on it, with my user selectable settings including PDC ONLY mode.

EXACTLY WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO RETURN THE ALP TO THE PDC ONLY MODE? I believe I have read all that you have written, watched all of the videos, read the ALP User Guide, read the ALPriority .com Q&As, read the threads on Radar & Laser Forum, etc., etc. But, I am still not sure of EXACTLY what I must do, and I cannot make a mistake when I am on the side of the road.

Do I keep the ALP system ON, then insert the USB flash drive into the USB port, at which time the system automatically loads the new Control Set selections (which includes the PDC ONLY mode selection) within approximately ~10 seconds. The ALP system then becomes a Parking Assist system, as it came from the factory. The LED blinks GREEN every second. IS THIS CORRECT?

Do I have to do anything else? Do I need to turn the system OFF, then back ON, at any time during the process? Do I need to leave the USB flash drive in the USB port, or can I remove it after the Control Set firmware upload is complete?

Thanks in advance for your help.

[Jaguar]

This is not correct. Running just the factory default command will reset the system to factory defaults which is actually LID = 4 so it will not go into parking only mode. It will go into default startup settings so it will go into parking for 60 seconds but then go back into defense mode after the startup period.

When I did it last it went to all green mode instead of blue...

[BestRadarDetectors]

When I did it last it went to all green mode instead of blue...

If you were in Unlimited it would it go to Green after the factory default but will go back to Defense after 60 seconds. Just tested this and confirmed it does just this.

[Jaguar]

If you were in Unlimited it would it go to Green after the factory default but will go back to Defense after 60 seconds. Just tested this and confirmed it does just this.

Well damn, there goes my plan :D

[BestRadarDetectors]

Well damn, there goes my plan :D

We have some new stuff coming in the next update that will give more easy options to switch modes.

[modsl55amg]

We have some new stuff coming in the next update that will give more easy options to switch modes.

Tom/BRD: Do you have an approximate time frame for the release of the next update?

[BestRadarDetectors]

Tom/BRD: Do you have an approximate time frame for the release of the next update?
A few weeks

[curmudgeon]

A few weeks

Tom Hanks in The Money Pit.......... "How much longer?"

General contractor "Two more weeks"

:boink:

[OrlNmE]

WOW!! Talk about dissecting one topic down to the DNA. LOL. Great information from everyone and great feedback from BRD/Tom. Now remember folks, patience until the next update comes out.. :rofl-1:

[V8MBO]

indeed informative, So IF the Usb key is pulled when set appropriately the alp will only restart in parking mode ONLY and stay that way until the key is reinserted?

Sorry to harp on but its very important to me that no matter what the jammer cant activate EVER without the key.

Thanks.

[BestRadarDetectors]

If you set a USB Security Key the second you pull the key you would loose defense mode and it will not go back unless the key is reinserted. Just make sure you make a backup of that security file.

[V8MBO]

Perfect : )


If you set a USB Security Key the second you pull the key you would loose defense mode and it will not go back unless the key is reinserted. Just make sure you make a backup of that security file.

[Abarth695]

I've mentioned this before, but why do we have to bother with swapping damned USB sticks and different settings on them etc.
Can we just have it programmed where at a touch of a button, the screen changes from looking like it is a radar detector to a subtle display which looks like it is just a parking sensor and will not react to an LEO sniffing around you when he has pulled you over!

[BestRadarDetectors]

I've mentioned this before, but why do we have to bother with swapping damned USB sticks and different settings on them etc.
Can we just have it programmed where at a touch of a button, the screen changes from looking like it is a radar detector to a subtle display which looks like it is just a parking sensor and will not react to an LEO sniffing around you when he has pulled you over!

The ALP has been released in 2013 and we have added many features and continue to look into more features that could be added. There are many ways of accomplishing many tasks and we give many options. The controller is small and only has 2 buttons and there is only so much you can do instantly but you can change almost everything with a few key strokes. We have yet to have one personal pulled over and given a hard time with having an ALP installed. If you are that concerned add the GPS antenna and the system and will not go into defense unless you are moving over a set speed and it will happen automatically.