IR License Plate Strips

[BestRadarDetectors]

There are alot of cheap IR Light Strips available such as these:

http://www.sunflexzone.com/product/stealth-anti-tracking-ir-infrared-license-plate-privacy-frame-alpr-countermeasure

Do you think there would be interest in an AL Branded version that would go on during Poliscan and and other Laser Camera alerts?
Just thinking of ways that the ALP can be further improved. Thoughts?

[Mirage]

I think it would be a nice addition. Unless Veil G5 works and then it won't be needed.

[lugnuts]

how do those light steips differ from the nophoto? not familiar with either just curious.

[winterbrew]

how do those light steips differ from the nophoto? not familiar with either just curious.

These are just simple IR LED strips that you wire up, and they flood your plate with bright IR light which blocks cameras such as ALPR that read in IR light, or use an IR flash.

Won't be effective against photo radar/lidar etc that uses visible light flash, as they will also probably be using a UV-IR cut filter on the camera.

The NoPhoto has embedded electronics, which flash back (white flash) in response to the cam flash at the crucial moment to overexpose the image

[TurboDriver]

There are alot of cheap IR Light Strips available such as these:

http://www.sunflexzone.com/product/stealth-anti-tracking-ir-infrared-license-plate-privacy-frame-alpr-countermeasure

Do you think there would be interest in an AL Branded version that would go on during Poliscan and and other Laser Camera alerts?
Just thinking of ways that the ALP can be further improved. Thoughts?

Yes, why not. If they had the quality and effort like they do with the ALP's it should work awesome.




Does this have any validity?

I have been wondering about something that would incorporate into the headlights. Maybe a special light bulb that emits in 904nm along with the normal visible light, on all the time. A flood type not a tight beam.

Would this help to reduce range of lidar guns due to the loss of detectable reflections from the headlights when targeted? Kind of like flashing a light at another light, you can't really tell.

[Veil Guy]

I think it would be a nice addition. Unless Veil G5 works and then it won't be needed.

Exactly. And notice these things look to increase reflectivity (to overwhelm imaging). The OPPOSITE of what you really want, IMO.

That looks like it would hurt your LCS to police laser, not a good thing. I believe the same thing goes for the invisi-plate which creates a mirror effect in the IR as well.

Don't you think this is a better way to go?

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/other-countermeasures/81866-ontrack-ir-invisi-plate-infared-camera-cover-2.html#post911490

VG

[TurboDriver]

Exactly. And notice these things look to increase reflectivity (to overwhelm imaging). The OPPOSITE of what you really want, IMO.

That looks like it would hurt your LCS to police laser, not a good thing. I believe the same thing goes for the invisi-plate which creates a mirror effect in the IR as well.

Don't you think this is a better way to go?

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/other-countermeasures/81866-ontrack-ir-invisi-plate-infared-camera-cover-2.html#post911490

VG

I can't see results, I am not advanced on Roy's site, I actually rarely ever go there...sorry, haven't been a fan of his, anyway........

I think you're right about the plate covers but the lights I think might do more good than harm.

I do agree though that Veil is much easier if it works. I will give it a try when it comes out.

[Veil Guy]

I can't see results, I am not advanced on Roy's site, I actually rarely ever go there...sorry, haven't been a fan of his, anyway........

I think you're right about the plate covers but the lights I think might do more good than harm.

I do agree though that Veil is much easier if it works. I will give it a try when it comes out.

Hmm. Let me look into that and see if I can fix that for you...

Done. You've been raised to ADV. Should be good to go now. Anyone else who is senior/trusted just let me know and we'll take care of it. Sorry for the inconvenience, but better to keep such things out of the public view, IMO.

VG

[lugnuts]

These are just simple IR LED strips that you wire up, and they flood your plate with bright IR light which blocks cameras such as ALPR that read in IR light, or use an IR flash.

Won't be effective against photo radar/lidar etc that uses visible light flash, as they will also probably be using a UV-IR cut filter on the camera.

The NoPhoto has embedded electronics, which flash back (white flash) in response to the cam flash at the crucial moment to overexpose the image
ah ok

[TurboDriver]

Hmm. Let me look into that and see if I can fix that for you...

VG
Thanks.

Ok, I went and took a look and..............................................C olor Me Impressed! Much better than I expected.

[OrlNmE]

Really??? What can you tell us? Or can VG explain a bit more?

[Veil Guy]

Thanks.

Ok, I went and took a look and..............................................C olor Me Impressed! Much better than I expected.

I know Tom has his doubts, but I trust that will be resolved in time and if we missed something, we're going to deal with it. But I am confident we're on solid footing...pictures don't lie.

VG

[OrlNmE]

I have my doubts Also, but let's look at best case scenario. 80 bucks for I don't know, several layers of applications? And considering I wash my truck often, how long will Veil truly stay on?? There are way to many questionable outlooks. Well I got to sleep this off now. Gotta get up for work in 5 hours.

[hussein]

Interestingly enough, I was recently looking into this. LEDs appear to have a long life expectancy. Would it not be feasible (and cheaper) to run them constant on?

[BestRadarDetectors]

Interestingly enough, I was recently looking into this. LEDs appear to have a long life expectancy. Would it not be feasible (and cheaper) to run them constant on?
Many police cruisers run with cams on that use IR. It would probably cause more harm than good running something like this all the time.

[lugnuts]

Many police cruisers run with cams on that use IR. It would probably cause more harm than good running something like this all the time.

so wouldnt having veil on the plate be bad then as well? if they can see the LED on their camera they can see the veil as well.

[BestRadarDetectors]

so wouldnt having veil on the plate be bad then as well? if they can see the LED on their camera they can see the veil as well.

This is entirely something that needs to be tested in the future. We do not have any G5 so I do not know how it will look during the day and the evening.
The light strips would work well with the ALP because they could be powered from the ALP and only illuminated during an alert preferably from Camera alerts. Just thinking out of the box for future additions but I would not want them to go off if shot with regular laser.

[lugnuts]

This is entirely something that needs to be tested in the future. We do not have any G5 so I do not know how it will look during the day and the evening.
The light strips would work well with the ALP because they could be powered from the ALP and only illuminated during an alert preferably from Camera alerts. Just thinking out of the box for future additions but I would not want them to go off if shot with regular laser.
what if they were also an additional head so when hit with regular laser they fire as a head would?

[BestRadarDetectors]

what if they were also an additional head so when hit with regular laser they fire as a head would?

If you were protecting the rear you would already have heads back there. This would be primarily for those in MD with Poliscan issues and those international customers that have this issue. The ALP already does well against the Poliscan but blocking the plate during jamming would only add a little extra protection.

[OrlNmE]

That idea really sounds great. It would be cool of they can make it with some type of add on connecting with a splitter of some sort from a rear head already in place.

[NVR2FST]

Many police cruisers run with cams on that use IR. It would probably cause more harm than good running something like this all the time.
Well, we are REQUIRED to illuminate our license plates at night, and I know of no law preventing us from doing so by day. And neither is the wavelength of the light specified by statute AFAIK.

Laws: They Were Made To Be Broken

[hitechrr]

so wouldnt having veil on the plate be bad then as well? if they can see the LED on their camera they can see the veil as well.

Vail or any kind of paint or cover is not legal in NY. I heard that in some state it was a crime . I don't remember what stat that was.

[awj223]

This is entirely something that needs to be tested in the future. We do not have any G5 so I do not know how it will look during the day and the evening.
The light strips would work well with the ALP because they could be powered from the ALP and only illuminated during an alert preferably from Camera alerts. Just thinking out of the box for future additions but I would not want them to go off if shot with regular laser.
But what do you do about the automatic cameras that cops have on their cars nowadays, that don't measure speed but still take pictures of plates? If the IR LEDs are only protecting during an active alert, wouldn't they be able to find out where your car was at a specific date and time without actually reading your plate with their eyes?

I think what we need is a sort of captcha for license plates. I don't have a problem with LEOs reading my plate with their own eyes and entering the numbers and letters they see into a database. I do have a problem with an automated camera doing it.

[BestRadarDetectors]

But what do you do about the automatic cameras that cops have on their cars nowadays, that don't measure speed but still take pictures of plates? If the IR LEDs are only protecting during an active alert, wouldn't they be able to find out where your car was at a specific date and time without actually reading your plate with their eyes?

I think what we need is a sort of captcha for license plates. I don't have a problem with LEOs reading my plate with their own eyes and entering the numbers and letters they see into a database. I do have a problem with an automated camera doing it.

AntiLaser is a laser defense company. I was thinking of this not as a camera protector... If you are concerned with cameras there are products like 'No Photo' or many plate covers and even maybe Veil G5. I was thinking for just an added layer or protection from difficult devices like the Poliscan. AL's sensitivity is really good and in every video Winterbrew has posted the ALP always went off with warning but if while its going off if it can also block your plate to prevent a photo its just that an extra level of protection and would not be obvious because its only going off during these real hits.

[languy99]

Hard to do thing for automated machines especially ones that do not do specific patterns.


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[shanetrainST]

If Antilaser did make a competitive product against the NoPhoto, that sync'd with ALP system, I bet it would be very popular :)

Antilaser is better than some cheap IR strip :)

Sorry Tom
Refer to winterbrew post ;-) on poliscan.

[PAPACUCU]

This is entirely something that needs to be tested in the future. We do not have any G5 so I do not know how it will look during the day and the evening.
The light strips would work well with the ALP because they could be powered from the ALP and only illuminated during an alert preferably from Camera alerts. Just thinking out of the box for future additions but I would not want them to go off if shot with regular laser.

Thanks for starting this provocative thread.
Thinking out of the box like this is a huge part of making innovations come to life.
And in fact is my impression (hope) of business as usual at Anti LAser
I for one would certainly welcome development of a prototype for testing by ALP and subsequent testing by RALETC.

After HiFi of course!!!

[RigToFly01]

There are alot of cheap IR Light Strips available such as these:

http://www.sunflexzone.com/product/stealth-anti-tracking-ir-infrared-license-plate-privacy-frame-alpr-countermeasure

Do you think there would be interest in an AL Branded version that would go on during Poliscan and and other Laser Camera alerts?
Just thinking of ways that the ALP can be further improved. Thoughts?

I think that is a great idea. It's only a matter of time before poliscan and other stuff spread to more of the US.