Next Firmware Update on the ALP will be on 6/5/14

[BestRadarDetectors]

Next firmware has been tested and is slated for release on 6/5/14, It will contain a few updates including the DALA # 5 & New XLR Update.
Will give more details as we get the release notes.

[lugnuts]

its nice to see a supplier give actual release dates and info about what the update is for.

[Solidjake]

Awesome! Thanks again for all of the work being put in

[Qui-Gon]

ALP Update website still seems to be down... :(

[BestRadarDetectors]

ALP Update website still seems to be down... :(

Yes, As soon as it comes back online everyone will be able to download the updates.

[TOMMYJR9]

:(


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[TOMMYJR9]

Any news ?


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[BestRadarDetectors]

Any news ?


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Sorry, The ALP Update Site has nothing to do with me. I am waiting along with the rest of you guys. When its back online you will be able to download the latest update.

[jdong]

Sorry, The ALP Update Site has nothing to do with me. I am waiting along with the rest of you guys. When its back online you will be able to download the latest update.

Thanks for the update :) I don't think we're personally blaming you for it being down, we're just looking forward to the new firmware.

[RigToFly01]

Is it being attacked?

[TOMMYJR9]

LOL silly


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[BestRadarDetectors]

Is it being attacked?

I honestly dont know what happened. When I asked what happened I was told the server that ran the update site went down and had to be replaced. What happened to the server I dont know. I am still hoping the new server will be up later today. If it was as simple as emailing everyone an update I would but the site actually issues software specific updates specific to each users serial numbers. I am waiting with the rest of you guys to update my other 2 ALP units I run.

[TOMMYJR9]

I need my fix ?


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[dinkydi]

may be they have invented a cloaking device, :highly_amused: at least we still have a good working system until they uncloak ;)

[radargeek]

They don't have a backup server?

[shanetrainST]

Server is still down :(

[TOMMYJR9]

The Dragon did some voodoo on the server


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[jdong]

They don't have a backup server?

To be fair, the main web server appears to be up (it's still serving static PDF's like the ALP Connect manual correctly). I presume it's whatever they use to run the web app that generates firmware files mated to your controller and whatnot that's actually down. I've seen plenty of bigger organizations with worse single points of failure in their cloud/web infrastructure.

[Won Hunglo]

Server got served.

[Tman]

Server got served.

Do you mean operational ?

At http://www.alpupdate.com/

I still get ''we will be back soon''

Not that i complain because i understand ultra-sophisticated systems can be very hard to fix .

[Holla]

still down for me--looks like it will have to happen tomorrow!

[beingaware]

Why u no cluster server or use backup like rsync to backup server....

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[jdong]

Why u no cluster server or use backup like rsync to backup server....

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I don't think it's as trivial as that to set up additional instances of their web app that generates setup.alp files or produces firmware tailored to your CPU. We have no knowledge about what part of their infrastructure went down. As I said, the static files on alpupdate.com are still up. It's something in the backend that failed. And HA clustering is not trivial to integrate with your apps, and nor is rsync a valid or coherent way to back up a web app atomically to an alternate server, nor is it always a simple job to restore from such an archive of a working website.

Note that I'm not really defending the downtime either. It's horribly disruptive to ALP customers. We now can't change any nontrivial on our ALP setup because they decided the most logical way to generate config files is via a website that's now down. However, it is one of my pet peeves in the tech world that internet commenters tend to overly trivialize running infrastructure and believe they know how to run it better than others.

[beingaware]

I don't think it's as trivial as that to set up additional instances of their web app that generates setup.alp files or produces firmware tailored to your CPU. We have no knowledge about what part of their infrastructure went down. As I said, the static files on alpupdate.com are still up. It's something in the backend that failed. And HA clustering is not trivial to integrate with your apps, and nor is rsync a valid or coherent way to back up a web app atomically to an alternate server, nor is it always a simple job to restore from such an archive of a working website.

Note that I'm not really defending the downtime either. It's horribly disruptive to ALP customers. We now can't change any nontrivial on our ALP setup because they decided the most logical way to generate config files is via a website that's now down. However, it is one of my pet peeves in the tech world that internet commenters tend to overly trivialize running infrastructure and believe they know how to run it better than others.

Not really.

I have Exchange, AD, FS, SQL, TMG all cluster on VMware ESX across two datacentres.
It can even blow out core switches and keep on trucking.
The staff don't even notice as its seemless.

Web is much easier to sync and sql is pretty easy compared to other services :).
Using VSS and then pushing those up with something like EMC is very easily doable for having quick turn around on backup of a failed box.
Blow up a new vm, hell have a hot stand by image.
Drop the last snapshot onto it, and bang, you are back online in less then 15 minutes.

my biggest pet peev is companies that fail to invest even a few thousand on HA and then either;
A, whinge they had a failure, then press on the helpdesk guys to hurry us Admins up.
B, take forever to come back online if out sourced
or
C, affecting customer bases. (again out sourced).

Kind regards,
Beingaware,
CCNP R&S, Voice, Datacentre, ASA
VCP5-DCV
RHCSA
MCITP 2008/2012
ITILv3
B.Sc

We done with our pissing match?

[jdong]

Not really.

I have Exchange, AD, FS, SQL, TMG all cluster on VMware ESX across two datacentres.
It can even blow out core switches and keep on trucking.
The staff don't even notice as its seemless.

Web is much easier to sync and sql is pretty easy compared to other services :).
Using VSS and then pushing those up with something like EMC is very easily doable for having quick turn around on backup of a failed box.
Blow up a new vm, hell have a hot stand by image.
Drop the last snapshot onto it, and bang, you are back online in less then 15 minutes.


Kind regards,
Beingaware,
CCNP R&S, Voice, Datacentre, ASA
VCP5-DCV
RHCSA
MCITP 2008/2012
ITILv3
B.Sc

We done with our pissing match?

No pissing match going on here. I'm sure this is a very affordable setup for a company that sells a handful of laser jammers to enthusiasts that they work on. This may shock you but not everyone working on LIDAR jamming is a cloud/virtualization/web guru or decides that it's worth their money to hire one.

I do agree with you that they should have done a better job at keeping their site up. But we still have no clue what exactly broke in their setup, so this is all speculation.

jdong,
Software/firmware/kernel engineer who spends all day working with people who are not software inclined but think that they are, whose EE and mathematics intellect fly way over my head so I can't claim I can do their job either....

[beingaware]

No pissing match going on here. I'm sure this is a very affordable setup for a company that sells a handful of laser jammers to enthusiasts that they work on. This may shock you but not everyone working on LIDAR jamming is a cloud/virtualization/web guru or decides that it's worth their money to hire one.

I do agree with you that they should have done a better job at keeping their site up. But we still have no clue what exactly broke in their setup, so this is all speculation.

jdong,
Software/firmware/kernel engineer who spends all day working with people who are not software inclined but think that they are, whose EE and mathematics intellect fly way over my head so I can't claim I can do their job either....

Haha, you must work with engineers :).

And AL is pretty large in Europe and over here in Australia, I am sure they could afford the configuration.
If some of my SMB clients can, I am sure AL can.

[jdong]

Haha, you must work with engineers :).

And AL is pretty large in Europe and over here in Australia, I am sure they could afford the configuration.
If some of my SMB clients can, I am sure AL can.

I am indeed. And an engineer who does some infrastructure stuff in his spare time, who knows all and well that it's not my strong suit and I'd never trust something I'm put in charge of maintaining. But it seems like more and more businesses "trying out" the whole web infrastructure thing see that their (other types of) engineers are able to seemingly produce a functioning web server. They just declare "mission accomplished" there, and engineers gravitate back to doing their own favorite form of engineering and the infrastructure suffers until something goes horribly wrong.

Oh well, I think I'm preaching to the choir now. People like you let people like me get along with our day to day work :)

[beingaware]

I am indeed. And an engineer who does some infrastructure stuff in his spare time, who knows all and well that it's not my strong suit and I'd never trust something I'm put in charge of maintaining. But it seems like more and more businesses "trying out" the whole web infrastructure thing see that their (other types of) engineers are able to seemingly produce a functioning web server. They just declare "mission accomplished" there, and engineers gravitate back to doing their own favorite form of engineering and the infrastructure suffers until something goes horribly wrong.

Oh well, I think I'm preaching to the choir now. People like you let people like me get along with our day to day work :)

Indeed, I have 5 developers in my team who cry anything skips a beat haha.
The company I work for does a mostly HA network deployments along with 2 factor auth/proper security implementations etc for SMB, and gov (mostly airlines, mining, and gov).
I was given my own budget to go nuts with out own Internal network and our own MPLS for our customers, so I did. :).

Since the new system went in place, we have had not one outage :).
Hardware has failed/servers have had hiccups, but the end users are none the wiser...

[dinkydi]

geeez you guys got me well and truly lost :adoration:, but good reading while we wait, think it makes it worse lack of info,

[dragons]

Well it's back but doesn't look like the update is available yet.

[dinkydi]

just say's back soon for me, big white page

just refreshed page cleared cache yep ur correct dragons :)

[BestRadarDetectors]

New server has been brought online.

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[dragons]

New server has been brought online.

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Yeah we already established that :P

Now where's our update? **Stomps foot**

[BestRadarDetectors]

Yeah we already established that :P

Now where's our update? **Stomps foot**

Update is online.... Just because they did not update the text does not mean its not online. Download and update and install... You will get 4.3.6

[dragons]

Sweet!

[BestRadarDetectors]

Why u no cluster server or use backup like rsync to backup server....

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This will not happen again. Backup plan is being implemented. Its the first time we were late on an update and it was only 4 hours late but still upsetting that we missed the promised date. Stuff happens that is out of your control and you learn from it, make the needed changes and keep moving forward. In any case the update is online so download it, install it and have the most protection available from any laser defense company.

[64pvolvo1800]

Downloaded and updated but 4.3.5 still comes up on stats


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[dragons]

Same here.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Downloaded and updated but 4.3.5 still comes up on stats

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Are you sure you installed the correct file? If you already had a download on your computer it would have renamed it SerialNumber(1) or something similar. You need to rename it to SerialNumber.Bin

2085

[64pvolvo1800]

Yes. I rename it each time. I tried to save to USB and it fails too.


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[dragons]

Tried two different USB's here.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Yes. I rename it each time. I tried to save to USB and it fails too.

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What fails? The save of the file? Did you register this unit?

[64pvolvo1800]

Yes. This is the last one I got and put on the S60 Volvo. It has saved me a few times already and with the bT or control set it boots fine and goes blue. Settings still show 4.3.5 but USB save fails. I'm using a different drive than before and it's fat32. I will try another USB.


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[64pvolvo1800]

Can I use a USB with an SD or CF card as long as it's fat32?


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[BestRadarDetectors]

Can I use a USB with an SD or CF card as long as it's fat32?

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Only real USB drives are supported. You cant use an SD Card in a USB adapter.

[dragons]

Yes, mine is registered I have received confirmation Email.

[BestRadarDetectors]

I have to get my kids ready for school. Will work with anyone having issues when I return.

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[64pvolvo1800]

Trying a different file w all new setup, ucset, and sn fw file. Took off properly. Did I have to have a new setup file to launch the update?


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[BestRadarDetectors]

Trying a different file w all new setup, ucset, and sn fw file. Took off properly. Did I have to have a new setup file to launch the update?


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No but its fine if you load another one.

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[64pvolvo1800]

Well I'm good here. On to the other alp when I get home! Thanks as usual Tom. Good support and product in one stop shopping.... Muchos muchos grassy ass


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[dragons]

I deleted the file and downloaded a new one, it seems to be working fine now.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Yes, mine is registered I have received confirmation Email.

Try again and let me know what happens.

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[dragons]

As I said in my last post.. All good now.

[BestRadarDetectors]

As I said in my last post.. All good now.

Looks like we responded at the same time and I did not see your reply. If anyone else has an issue let me know.

[Qui-Gon]

Completed update before work, checked stats...4.3.6 is uploaded to my CPU. Thank you Tom!!!

[wolfpacal]

A total of how many new files are we loading?

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[BestRadarDetectors]

A total of how many new files are we loading?

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Firmware + Control Set + Current Setup File if you use the Control Module, If you are using ALP Connect you do not need the Control Set firmware.

[TOMMYJR9]

Can somebody please post a step-by-step process of updating? What might seem simple to you may not be as simple to somebody else like me :(


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[Qui-Gon]

Can somebody please post a step-by-step process of updating? What might seem simple to you may not be as simple to somebody else like me :(


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This should hopefully answer your question:

http://radarandlaserforum.com/showthread.php/29-First-Steps-Required-After-Installing-Your-AL-Priority-System?p=30&viewfull=1#post30

Tom, please correct me if I am wrong.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Yes.. Process is the same as above.

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[Tman]

Mission done , 4.3.6 and 3.2 , checked by the stats .

Résumé of the steps :

Go to : http://www.alpupdate.com/

1)go to '' Firmware upgrade'' , write your serial number @ Control Box update
press enter , do your math , press download , save to pc , file is = u\serial\.bin , go to next step

2) go to ''Control Set update'' , download to pc , save resulting file to pc = UCSET.bin

Take those 2 files and copy them on your usb key.
Go to your system , start it , place the key and wait , it will cycle for less than a minute ,
when all is done it will come back to flashing blue .
I did close and open again the system , tough the 2 files were already installed .

Please correct me if i skip something , when you have done this a few times ,
the routine is very fast .

When the stat file is pulled you should read 4.3.6 and 3.2 on your sreen.

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Off Topic

Tom if someone want to revert to a previous version , for a reason or another ,
can it be done ?

[BestRadarDetectors]

Tom if someone want to revert to a previous version , for a reason or another ,
can it be done ?

By default no you can not downgrade. Can it be done if really needed with distributor assistance yes but there should never be a reason to go backwards. All Software released is already Beta tested by the distributors for 1-2 weeks before public release to make sure there are no issues.

[jdong]

So I presume for those of us who switch between the BT module and control set, the control set has to be connected to update UCSET.bin? Rather, does the control set firmware actually live on the little controller, or does it live on the ALP control box itself?

[BestRadarDetectors]

So I presume for those of us who switch between the BT module and control set, the control set has to be connected to update UCSET.bin? Rather, does the control set firmware actually live on the little controller, or does it live on the ALP control box itself?

Yes, The control set would need to be connected to also update the Control Set. The firmware is installed directly onto the Controller.

[Nanook]

Just got my notice..and a ? I know has been asked plenty but if I have both files UXXXXXXX.bin and UCSET on the thumbdrive and restart twice will it update both or must I remove UXXXXXX.bin and do UCSET on it's own ?

[BestRadarDetectors]

Just got my notice..and a ? I know has been asked plenty but if I have both files UXXXXXXX.bin and UCSET on the thumbdrive and restart twice will it update both or must I remove UXXXXXX.bin and do UCSET on it's own ?

The firmware file will get deleted automatically after the install and you will only be left with the Control Set firmware & Setup File if you are loading all three. After reboot just turn off and back on and within a few seconds you are done.

[ProStreetCamaro]

Got mine updated. Bring on the DALA!


P.S. The software you run on this site really pisses me off! I use a vpn for the sole purpose of staying off the grid but this site (the only one I have ever encountered that blocks the vpn btw) will not let me on the site. Apparently it blocks everybody on the choopa network. I seriously doubt it would stop somebody from hacking or implementing a botnet against the site if they know what they are doing.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Got mine updated. Bring on the DALA!


P.S. The software you run on this site really pisses me off! I use a vpn for the sole purpose of staying off the grid but this site (the only one I have ever encountered that blocks the vpn btw) will not let me on the site. Apparently it blocks everybody on the choopa network. I seriously doubt it would stop somebody from hacking or implementing a botnet against the site if they know what they are doing.

You have no idea how many attacks we block daily from these networks. Last check we blocked almost 300,000 fake registration attempts alone and that is not to mention all the other types of attacks we get. If the network is blocked its because we were attacked through it.

[Tman]

Enough to take some tylenols , did'nt think so many jaleous\bad people in this little world of cms.

[wolfpacal]

Both vehicles updated today successfully! Thanks ALP and Tom/Mirage.

[ProStreetCamaro]

You have no idea how many attacks we block daily from these networks. Last check we blocked almost 300,000 fake registration attempts alone and that is not to mention all the other types of attacks we get. If the network is blocked its because we were attacked through it.


Good lord that is allot of fake registrations! If I switch from east coast server to Florida server it let's me on lol.

[dinkydi]

Firmware version 4.3.6
Region Australia & Pacific
Power Cycles 327
Control Set FW version 1.3
Control Set HW version 4
is the above correct


no showing the control set 3.2

[tmcmenam]

Updated no problem, thanks all

[dinkydi]

no gps working spent hour messing around, does any one test the oz f/w etc before release also cant up grade controller been on test, k band not working properly, gps is enabled in set up

Firmware version 4.3.6
Region Australia & Pacific
Power Cycles 327
Control Set FW version 1.3
Control Set HW version 4
is the above correct


no showing the control set 3.2

[BestRadarDetectors]

no gps working spent hour messing around, does any one test the oz f/w etc before release also cant up grade controller been on test, k band not working properly, gps is enabled in set up

Firmware version 4.3.6
Region Australia & Pacific
Power Cycles 327
Control Set FW version 1.3
Control Set HW version 4
is the above correct


no showing the control set 3.2

Your Control Set FW is very outdated.. Should be 3.0 or 3.2
I have also never seen anyone with a Control Set HW version 4, I have been on version 1 since Day one and it has never changed. Are you sure that is correct?

[dinkydi]

yes, and i have all ways up dated every thing before, they were a copy and paste from my stats i pulled

[dinkydi]

Your Control Set FW is very outdated.. Should be 3.0 or 3.2
I have also never seen anyone with a Control Set HW version 4, I have been on version 1 since Day one and it has never changed. Are you sure that is correct?

just done stats again

Firmware version 4.3.6
Region Australia & Pacific
Power Cycles 374
Control Set FW version 1.4
Control Set HW version 4

[jdong]

Your Control Set FW is very outdated.. Should be 3.0 or 3.2
I have also never seen anyone with a Control Set HW version 4, I have been on version 1 since Day one and it has never changed. Are you sure that is correct?

I'm pretty sure those are the numbers shown for the ALP Connect module. My ALP Connect shows the same version numbers (1.4 and hw version 4)

[dinkydi]

disconnected every thing direct to controller no bt no rg, tried the controller up grade,nothing has changed still the same,


Firmware version 4.3.6
Region Australia & Pacific
Power Cycles 381
Control Set FW version 1.4
Control Set HW version 4
Connected sensors
Connected sensors when manually memorized Front1, Front2, Rear1, Rear2
Connected sensor (actual) Front1, Front2, Rear1, Rear2
Settings
Audio Volume 5
Parking detection range 1
Silent Power-up Disabled
Dark Mode Normal
Parking enabled sensors Front1, Front2, Rear1, Rear2
GPS Antenna Enabled
PDC Speed Limit NONE
Working mode Parking and Laser Interference Defense
Pro mode Disabled
LID Speed Limit NONE
Radar Antenna Model STIR+
Radar Settings K, Ka
LID Time 6 seconds
Specific LID settings
Vitronic Poliscan
Speed scanner Enabled
Unicam Camera
Section speed control All sensors ON
NJL SCS
Speed-laser Enabled
Riegl
Speed-laser Enabled
Trafic Observer
Speed scanner Enabled
Stalker
Speed-laser Maximum Power
Alerts by Source Speed-laser
Marksman and UltraLyte 19
Atlanta SpeedLaser Stealth 0
Kustom ProLaser 1 0
Kustom ProLaser & ProLite 0
Redspeed SpeedGuard 0
Riegl 0
Stalker 0
LTI Truspeed 2
Unipar - SL700 0
NJL SCS 101 & 102 0
Jenoptik – Laveg 0
Leivtec XV 2&3 0
Laser Ally 0
Error Sensitive Lasers
Jenoptik LaserPatrol 0
Jenoptik TraffiPatrol XR 0
ProLaser 2 & Atlanta SpeedLaser 0
Speed Section Control
Camea - IR Camera 0
Speed Scanner
Traffic Observer 0
Vitronic Poliscan 2
Radar
K-band 248
Ka-band 8
X-band 0
POP 0
MultaRadar CD 0

with this controller f/w farked up if i go back to just laser and the plus, will the laser work on bt,

just one thing when i try to do fw on the controller it gives a kwik double chirp right at the end of up grade, some how seems as though its stopped short of doing the full upgrade like it gets cut off

[BestRadarDetectors]

Dinkydi, I am going to email you one of my Control Set files... Please let me know if it gets you closer to 3.0

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[dinkydi]

ok thanks, but will be in morn when i wake up

[BestRadarDetectors]

ok thanks, but will be in morn when i wake up

Ok, Emailed you a copy of the last version 3.1, There might be an issue with the 3.2 on the website. Some are having trouble with it.

[dinkydi]

ok thanks got it , ready and waiting on usb, pm sent thx, will install the standard way

[dinkydi]

just the same
Serial number 2134299
Firmware version 4.3.6
Region Australia & Pacific
Power Cycles 401
Control Set FW version 1.4
Control Set HW version 4
going on road test,

one silver lining the htp works great through the car speakers :courage:

[BestRadarDetectors]

Will finish with you though PM.

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[KrpA]

How do you initiate "write setup do USB", over the iPhone or Control Set (Yellow menu / 7 - service codes / 2 - 2 - 2 ) ?

[dinkydi]

They Are two separate ones as I found out thx to brd
For the controller follow instruction statistic on the alp update site
For bt scroll the menu on phone down load to usb

[dragons]

I have to say I do like the new K band alert no where near as annoying as the old one.

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[jdong]

Ok, Emailed you a copy of the last version 3.1, There might be an issue with the 3.2 on the website. Some are having trouble with it.

So if I haven't updated my control box to 3.2 from 3.1 yet, should I wait?

I've been enjoying the ALP Connect currently.

[BestRadarDetectors]

So if I haven't updated my control box to 3.2 from 3.1 yet, should I wait?

I've been enjoying the ALP Connect currently.

If you are using ALP Connect you do not need to update the Control Set.

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[jdong]

If you are using ALP Connect you do not need to update the Control Set.

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Right, I've got both on the recommended manual switch, so I might use the control set in the future. If the only useful changes are some volume adjustments and K band tones... I can do without it.

[dinkydi]

I have to say I do like the new K band alert no where near as annoying as the old one.

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Yep great and only announced once with the red warning still on

[dragons]

Yep great and only announced once with the red warning still on

I don't get what your trying to say here dinky

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[dinkydi]

just agreeing with what u said and the k band warning, dont know if mine is different, but as i said it just voice announce once only, but the warning led light stays on until k threat is passed

[dragons]

Oh ok..

I Don't use the BT module only the control set as default.

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[KrpA]

When you use ALP Connect reported Control Set version is actually ALP Connect version (1.4) and hardware version is 4 (that means that you use ALP Connect).
If you want to check your control set version you have to use Control Set. ALP can't poll Control Set for firmware version if it's not connected to it!