RALETC LIDAR Jammer Meet Sunday, April 13

[Yellowcab]

RALETC will be holding our first member LIDAR testing meet:

When: April 13, Sunday 8:30 AM

Where: Somewhere in the Philadelphia area. Meeting place will be given by text message to attendees the night before. We will be using a new location.

No drugs, no alcohol, no firearms!

LIDARs to be used: Every LIDAR you can think of.

Stalker Series 1 and Series 2
stalker LR
Stalker XLR
LTI Truspeed
LTI Truspeed S
LTI LRB
LTI UL 100LR
Kustom prolaser III
Kustom Prolite+
Kustom Prolaser 4
And.......?????

Attendees will be given the opportunity to shoot some of the LIDARs, especially the special ones.

Please sign up by posting your intention to attend in this thread.

Attendee list:

Yellowcab
RadarRob
RedRocket
Salty
BestRadarDetectors
RigToFly01
Patsy1099
Blade
SunTzuAOW
VeilGuy

[dinkydi]

izza in the wrong part of the globe , but looking forward to results :eagerness: wot no beers ;)

[BestRadarDetectors]

I would like to attend to meet several of the new guys. I expect there will be a big turn out.

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[tmcmenam]

I'd like to come if I'm back on the east coast that day. Don't know where I'll be yet.

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[RedRocket]

My intent is to attend.

[Radarrob]

Count me in. If want to I can be there earlier to help with members installs if needed.

[Salty]

I'll most likely be there unless something comes up with my son.

[RigToFly01]

I will be there. I have not decided if I am going to take the day off or not. If I don't, I will be there from 8:30am till around 11:00am. I have to be back in NYC by 1:30pm. I don't get out of work till 10:30pm on Saturday night. I am going to drive down then and get a Hotel room. Anyone want to split it? Let me know.

[RedRocket]

^ - I might be,however my wife tells me I snore...funny tho',I don't hear a thing. :confused:
She must be dreaming !

[wolfpacal]

Sorry, that's my daughters birthday. Maybe in the fall?

[spankyaf]

Sadly this is too early for me as spring has barely sprung up here but I'm looking forward to seeing the results

[lugnuts]

I came so close to being able to go to this as the frozen four hockey tournament is that weekend in philly but unfortunately the team I was routing for (the scool I went to college) lost last night. :(

[itwasntme]

Would like to attend. Can bring a LIDAR with recent firmware. PM me for specifics. RedRocket knows the firmware version as well. Look forward to meeting everyone.

[patsy1099]

I'm in. Is the Spring really here?

[Con40mb]

Ill play with the date, Will no more when it gets closer.. Philly's a 4 hour commute for me.
Be nice to meet some more people though.

[Salty]

Ill play with the date, Will no more when it gets closer.. Philly's a 4 hour commute for me.
Be nice to meet some more people though.

Hey man! Good to see ya over here!

[kimberdan]

I would have been there for sure, I really would like to get out and meet some members, even tho its like a 19 HR drive.... But My dad is flying in for that week so i will not be able to drive the 19 hrs :dread:
Will Be up in august, maybe ill get lucky and you guys will have another before winter shows up again

[specifics]

Hopefully there will be more as this is also too early for me also.... car is still in storage and ALP's are sitting next to me by the couch..... please tell me there will be another meet...

[BestRadarDetectors]

Hopefully there will be more as this is also too early for me also.... car is still in storage and ALP's are sitting next to me by the couch..... please tell me there will be another meet...

There is still plenty of time to get them installed and come hang out and get them tested. Weather is going to be nice this weekend. Take it out of storage, clean it up and get it installed!

[specifics]

There is still plenty of time to get them installed and come hang out and get them tested. Weather is going to be nice this weekend. Take it out of storage, clean it up and get it installed!

Do my best.... my problem is these four ten hour days and cold rainy weekends.... My work ethic won't let me call in sick even though the weatherman says tomorrow will be mid 60's... lol Put me down as tentative......

[Won Hunglo]

Guys, y'all have fun. I won't have a free travel weekend until who knows when.

[NYSpeederPVM]

I'm a no go as well :( I'm going to my friends wedding in Arizona that weekend.

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[RigToFly01]

How many confirmed are we up to?

[Radarrob]

Check first post.

[SLO]

Too short of notice for me to make a road trip.

[Qui-Gon]

Won't be able to make it...have to work my 2nd job (yes, I'm a section leader for my church choir). Besides, no ACM's installed either. :(

Hopefully soon though!

[Blade]

Can newbies come and watch if they don't have jammers installed?

[patsy1099]

Just wanted to make sure you gents had me down. I didn't see the list updated. Hope the weather is nice. Will the event be held rain or shine (hopefully no snow!)?

[Yellowcab]

I will update the list tonight. Your in Patsy

[Yellowcab]

Can newbies come and watch if they don't have jammers installed?

You are more than welcome to attend

[RigToFly01]

Can you guys help me decide? What is the plan for the day? Is it worth for me to take the day off? If I don't take the day off I would need to leave by 11:30am at the latest. What do you guys think?

[Yellowcab]

We can have all the testing done by noon.

[Veil Guy]

Schedule permitting, I am in. Cleared it with the boss. :)

Looking forward to making some new friends IRL.

VG

[Radarrob]

Schedule permitting, I am in. Cleared it with the boss. :)

Looking forward to making some new friends IRL.

VGIf you need anything ill be at location when given at around 6:30-7am Sunday morning.

[SunTzuAOW]

New guy, but I am right up the street from Philly. Would love to attend

[Salty]

New guy, but I am right up the street from Philly. Would love to attend

There's no reason why you can't. What would you be getting tested?

[Yellowcab]

Weather report: Sunny and a high of 73.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Weather report: Sunny and a high of 73.

Sounds Great... Get the sunscreen! Can you update the first post with current attendees?

[Yellowcab]

Sounds Great... Get the sunscreen! Can you update the first post with current attendees?

Tonight. I have been doing all of this on my phone while at work.

[SunTzuAOW]

Nothing to test. All I have as now is a laser shield. Would love to hang out see all your set ups, talk to you about where I can get an install, play with the guns and see what I'm up against first hand. Let me know what you will need me to bring.


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[RigToFly01]

I am going to make some generic testing sheets and print them up. I am going to use excel to do so. I will use this format.

http://i60.tinypic.com/28soqk3.jpg

I based this off of RedRocket's. Does anyone have any suggestions for version 2.0?

I was thinking around 20 should be enough?

:eagerness:

[Yellowcab]

Do you have Laser Interceptors?

1532

Don't believe that your Laser Interceptors won't jam the Stalker XLR. Come to the jammer meet and shoot your own car with the Stalker XLR.

[Holla]

Cant wait till this is all over and read the results

[patsy1099]

k40 is gonna eat that xlr for breakfast :congratulatory:

[Yellowcab]

k40 is gonna eat that xlr for breakfast :congratulatory:

We may have a k40 vendor attending. He will crap in his pants when he sees how poorly it does

[Radarrob]

Do you have Laser Interceptors?

1532

Don't believe that your Laser Interceptors won't jam the Stalker XLR. Come to the jammer meet and shoot your own car with the Stalker XLR.I saw that gun today on the highway! Head for the hills.

[Holla]

We may have a k40 vendor attending. He will crap in his pants when he sees how poorly it does

NOW that will be awesome for him to really see how Crappy those K40's are! Cant wait to hear about that

[patsy1099]

I saw that gun today on the highway! Head for the hills.

Where is it in use?

[patsy1099]

NOW that will be awesome for him to really see how Crappy those K40's are! Cant wait to hear about that

It's definitely not the greatest install on the back of my truck but it should be plenty sufficient for him to see what it jams and what it doesn't

[Veil Guy]

Hey guys, I may have a scheduling conflict for this upcoming meet. If I can't make it, I hope it's a good meet and I look forward to meeting up again, I hope, soon! Looking forward to your results! :)

VG

[RedRocket]

Sorry to hear that VG,was looking forward to meeting you for the first time.I better not say I'll issue you a "rain check" then,otherwise I'm likely to jinx the Meet w/ bad weather!
Catch ya' next time. :chargrined:

[patsy1099]

VG I thought you had a hall pass! I was looking forward to meeting you as well. I was even going to let you veil my k40 heads since I think it would have made them much better :congratulatory:

[Radarrob]

Where is it in use?DE and when I was driving on 95 threw MD.

[Veil Guy]

I didn't say for sure that I couldn't make it! I still am going to try to make it happen. I really want to meet you guys! :)

VG

[SunTzuAOW]

Sorry to hear that VG,was looking forward to meeting you for the first time.I better not say I'll issue you a "rain check" then,otherwise I'm likely to jinx the Meet w/ bad weather!
Catch ya' next time. :chargrined:

Ditto, I was hoping he brought me a free sample of G5!!

[Radarrob]

I will be leaving around 1:00.I will not be able to stay the
whole day.

[SunTzuAOW]

DE and when I was driving on 95 threw MD.

How far in? that's the way I'll be coming.

[Radarrob]

The rest area on 95.There is also mile
marker 101-110.There is a spot by a dot area
with a big bend in the highway they ketch
speeders.Cant talk I more about this,must stay on topic with testing Sunday.

[Veil Guy]

Ditto, I was hoping he brought me a free sample of G5!!

G what? :)

VG

[Yellowcab]

Currently charging batteries for two Stalker LIDARs, the Stalker LR, Stalker XLR and the PL3.

[Radarrob]

Three stalker lz1 batteries charged and ready.They all need to be charged for 12-13 hours each.

[RigToFly01]

I will be leaving around 1:00.I will not be able to stay the
whole day.

I won't either. I will be leaving at the latest by noon. I have to be in NYC for work by 2pm.

[RigToFly01]

Here is the first try. Any suggestions?

http://i58.tinypic.com/9t1lbd.jpg

[Radarrob]

Bringing a clip board and extra pens and paper if needed.Will anyone be bringing a laser Atlanta lidar gun to meet?

[Radarrob]

We need a 238 PPS gun for the meet.

[Yellowcab]

If anyone I has walkies, please bring them. Also please bring AAA, AA and C batteries.

PL4, stalker XLR and stalker LR fully charged, 2 Stalker LIDAR batteries charges with two more on the chargers.

I will be bringing a Blinder HP-905 to do a temp install if anyone wants to see how it does.

[Yellowcab]

Here is the first try. Any suggestions?

http://i58.tinypic.com/9t1lbd.jpg


RTF, also switch gun type and name. Bring both sheets to the meet. 15 of each should do it.

[Radarrob]

If anyone I has walkies, please bring them. Also please bring AAA, AA and C batteries.

PL4, stalker XLR and stalker LR fully charged, 2 Stalker LIDAR batteries charges with two more on the chargers.

I will be bringing a Blinder HP-905 to do a temp install if anyone wants to see how it does.Ill bring
some walkies.

[Tman]

Here is the first try. Any suggestions?

I wont be with the gang , but i would suggest , though easier said than done :

1)someone take pictures of the front and rear of each tested car , so we get whole picture of the defendant,color\shape\placement at glance.
Perhaps even try to set the camera with the negative filter : the black of the sensors will popup white...

2) If time allows , run in a pack 3 to 4 , as in reality , and have a report from each driver about alert\reflexion

3) for those who can , run the reception mode in the pack above so to avoid interference.

Have a fruitfull day.

[RigToFly01]

If anyone I has walkies, please bring them. Also please bring AAA, AA and C batteries.

PL4, stalker XLR and stalker LR fully charged, 2 Stalker LIDAR batteries charges with two more on the chargers.

I will be bringing a Blinder HP-905 to do a temp install if anyone wants to see how it does.

I really do. I have been limited to the ALP. I would love to see how the other systems do.

[RigToFly01]

Bringing a clip board and extra pens and paper if needed.Will anyone be bringing a laser Atlanta lidar gun to meet?

Bringing 2 clip boards and a bunch of pens.

[RigToFly01]

If anyone I has walkies, please bring them. Also please bring AAA, AA and C batteries.

PL4, stalker XLR and stalker LR fully charged, 2 Stalker LIDAR batteries charges with two more on the chargers.

I will be bringing a Blinder HP-905 to do a temp install if anyone wants to see how it does.

I can get AA and AAA at work. I will bring a box of each.

[RigToFly01]

RTF, also switch gun type and name. Bring both sheets to the meet. 15 of each should do it.

what do you mean by RTF?

[Salty]

what do you mean by RTF?

LOL

RigToFly

[Salty]

I have two walkies I can bring.

[RigToFly01]

Since I have to leave a little early, Is anyone planing on getting to the location early? I was thinking about maybe getting there around 7:00am. Anyone else?

[Yellowcab]

Anyone who is attending the meet that has. Laser Interceptors, please update your firmware to 8.15. It is available at https://www.laser-interceptorusa.com/downloads

[Salty]

I'll update mine.

[patsy1099]

i'll update my LIs as well.

I have a marksman and an ltz I can bring just in case you want to use them for anything.

[Yellowcab]

i'll update my LIs as well.

I have a marksman and an ltz I can bring just in case you want to use them for anything.

Thanks. Anyone who has a LIDAR bring it.

[SunTzuAOW]

I'll bring a camera!! 😁


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[Yellowcab]

Meet up location will be pmed later tonight.

I need someone to bring trash bags.

[Mirage]

Make sure to take a picture of all the guns. Man I wish I could be there. Hopefully next time.

[Radarrob]

Meet up location will be pmed later tonight.

I need someone to bring trash bags.Ill bring some in case there is a nasty PT.

[curmudgeon]

Wishing you a ll a fun, safe, & LEO free trip there and back, camaraderie, and a productive and learning day, all with perfect weather. The rest of us eagerly await the results. Just make sure the color schemes are correct on the spreadsheet:boink:

[RigToFly01]

I am leaving in 30 mins or so to head down there. Hopefully I can find RedRocket and the Hotel he is at. "leave the lights on!"

[Yellowcab]

Pms sent

[BestRadarDetectors]

My DragonEye guns are packed and I have extra AA Batteries & C's if we need them. See everyone tomorrow.

[Yellowcab]

Packed up and ready to roll.

[Radarrob]

Locked and loaded.If anyone driving on NJTP or 95 from MD-DE we on the
look out for heavy laser enforcement tomorrow.

[kasher1979]

Good luck guys. Have fun! Can't wait for the results....

[Qui-Gon]

Drive safe, guys. Looking forward to the results! :)

[radargeek]

I don't know if anyone's checking this thread while at the meet, but someone presented a scenario on RDF that should be tested.

Someone mentioned that if you shoot a TSS at an LI, then afterward shoot a PL3, the PL3 will get IPT. I don't know if he power cycled the LI in between each gun or not, but this scenario should be tested while people and the guns are all together.

[Mirage]

I don't know if anyone's checking this thread while at the meet, but someone presented a scenario on RDF that should be tested.

Someone mentioned that if you shoot a TSS at an LI, then afterward shoot a PL3, the PL3 will get IPT. I don't know if he power cycled the LI in between each gun or not, but this scenario should be tested while people and the guns are all together.

I've tested it. It will if you shoot immediately afterwards because LI remembers the last gun shot to avoid an additional lookup during trigger cycling. If you cycle the LI your fine.

[licwid]

I've tested it. It will if you shoot immediately afterwards because LI remembers the last gun shot to avoid an additional lookup during trigger cycling. If you cycle the LI your fine.

Others have tested and not replicated this issue. Perhaps it only affects certain CPUs? I wonder if the affected CPUs are older ones?

[Mirage]

Others have tested and not replicated this issue. Perhaps it only affects certain CPUs? I wonder if the affected CPUs are older ones?

I don't believe it is an issue. It's just the nature of the jammer. It all depends on the amount of time spent between switching guns. I can't remember the exact timeout Cliff told me once, but it's been a long time.


FYI the team tested this today and did not find any issues with the latest LI 8.15 firmware.

[licwid]

We seem to have drifted OT, sorry. I am interested im seeing the results too!

[SunTzuAOW]

Back in Maryland safe and sound. Thanks guys for a very informative event. Opened my eyes A LOT. Hope to do it again real soon. Yellow Cab I'll send you all the picture and you can decided what you want to do with them.


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[Radarrob]

Back in Maryland safe and sound. Thanks guys for a very informative event. Opened my eyes A LOT. Hope to do it again real soon. Yellow Cab I'll send you all the picture and you can decided what you want to do with them.


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[kasher1979]

So you guys finished testing?

[spankyaf]

Any bulletins on the 8.15 ?

[BestRadarDetectors]

Any bulletins on the 8.15 ?

We did not notice any difference from 8.14, Yellowcab is probably still on the way home and will post results tonight.

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[Holla]

Did the K40 Rep show up?? I bet that system got tore up

[RigToFly01]

Took about 3 and half hours to get home. It was a blast and a good time was had by all.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Did the K40 Rep show up?? I bet that system got tore up

No rep but we did have a k40 there but there was a problem with it. It did not jam anything. We assume it needs a new CPU.

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[Yellowcab]

I just got home. Overall a very good day. I got to meet three members of the community that I haven't met before. We got to test two ALP installations, an LI installation and did some Veil testing.

Here are some highlights.
Car without any jammers and with out Veil, LIDAR used DALA: 3900 feet
Same car with Veil on headlights and fog lights no license plate: 1300 feet

LI 8.15 vs. Truspeed S now is JTG. A big improvement from 8.14
LI 8.15 vs. DET Compact: No alert no jam
LI 8.15 vs DALA #5 no alert no jam
LI 8.15 vs Stalker XLR alert no jam
ALP vs. DALA #5 alert no jam
ALP vs. DET Compact: Winner: ALP by a knockout.
LI 8.15: We did not experience the TSS followed by IPT when shot with PL4 and PL3 and we shot the TSS for the first half of the run waited a few seconds and then shot it with a pl3 or pl4.

Veil Guy needs to buy a DeLorean.

[SLO]

Why no jam from alp vs number 5?

[Mirage]

Why no jam from alp vs number 5?

We are researching why it didn't work today because it did work previously on my car (on beta firmware). So at this point its under investigation.

[radargeek]

Too bad I missed it. Every northeast meet that happens I can never make it. Being a wage slave sucks, and weekends are way too short. Maybe I need a DeLorean too, with the time travel package.

Some people on RDF still are reporting PL3 issues with 8.15, but nailing down a pattern has as of yet been impossible. We seemed to rule out the TSS-followed-by-PL3 theory I came up with this morning.

[TurboDriver]

Here are some highlights.
Car without any jammers and with out Veil, LIDAR used DALA: 3900 feet
Same car with Veil on headlights and fog lights no license plate: 1300 feet




Well Color Me Impressed.....that is quite significant !

[Mirage]

Here are some highlights.
Car without any jammers and with out Veil, LIDAR used DALA: 3900 feet
Same car with Veil on headlights and fog lights no license plate: 1300 feet




Well Color Me Impressed.....that is quite significant !

I agree this was truly impressive.

[Won Hunglo]

Why no jam from alp vs number 5?

This should explain the problems with number 5:


http://youtu.be/VKF3iJQBWuo?t=23s

[Radarrob]

Truspeed #2 had faster speed locks then compact
and laser ally.

[Con40mb]

Truspeed LR had faster speed locks then compact
and laser ally.

truspeed tore us up in the last meet i went to... i was surprised. tight beam.

[Radarrob]

truspeed tore us up in the last meet i went to... i was surprised. tight beam.Truspeed #2 is a whole different ball game. This unit is different then reg truspeed.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Too bad several guys could not make it. I was however nice meeting some new guys today! Hope you guys are hooked and come to the next one.

[Yellowcab]

RESULTS ARE UP http://radarandlaserforum.com/showthread.php/4176-RALETC-Laser-Jammer-Meet-RESULTS-April-2014

[Radarrob]

I would like to also note that the v1 detector alerted to all
lidar guns used.

[wolfpacal]

Thanks for the results guys! I would like to know why the DALA #5 gave the ALP such a problem. Mirage is on top of it.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Thanks for the results guys! I would like to know why the DALA #5 gave the ALP such a problem. Mirage is on top of it.

Its a Brand New gun that has never seen this ALP firmware. While the LI was quiet to this one as well the ALP did alert immediately. Some past beta firmware we have run Jammed it already but the latest production release did not. We will investigate and get it resolved quickly.

[wolfpacal]

Its a Brand New gun that has never seen this ALP firmware. While the LI was quiet to this one as well the ALP did alert immediately. Some past beta firmware we have run Jammed it already but the latest production release did not. We will investigate and get it resolved quickly.

Thanks!

[Qui-Gon]

Its a Brand New gun that has never seen this ALP firmware. While the LI was quiet to this one as well the ALP did alert immediately. Some past beta firmware we have run Jammed it already but the latest production release did not. We will investigate and get it resolved quickly.

Thank you, BRD!

[Veil Guy]

I just got home. Overall a very good day. I got to meet three members of the community that I haven't met before. We got to test two ALP installations, an LI installation and did some Veil testing.

Here are some highlights.
Car without any jammers and with out Veil, LIDAR used DALA: 3900 feet
Same car with Veil on headlights and fog lights no license plate: 1300 feet

LI 8.15 vs. Truspeed S now is JTG. A big improvement from 8.14
LI 8.15 vs. DET Compact: No alert no jam
LI 8.15 vs DALA #5 no alert no jam
LI 8.15 vs Stalker XLR alert no jam
ALP vs. DALA #5 alert no jam
ALP vs. DET Compact: Winner: ALP by a knockout.
LI 8.15: We did not experience the TSS followed by IPT when shot with PL4 and PL3 and we shot the TSS for the first half of the run waited a few seconds and then shot it with a pl3 or pl4.

Veil Guy needs to buy a DeLorean.

...Only if it comes with a flux capacitor. :)

That DALA was brutal! The metalic silver E39 is like a worst case scenario and was, no doubt, the easiest car to target with no CMs. Next car I bring to the test will be more reasonable target. Old jammers coming off and set of ALPs going on in their place on that one! 3900 feet with nothing on? Ouch!

VG

[SunTzuAOW]

I would like to also note that the v1 detector alerted to all
lidar guns used.


Not to mention it was catching all kinds of scatter while the guns were pointing away from it.

[Radarrob]

Not to mention it was catching all kinds of scatter while the guns were pointing away from it.Correct.At 100ft the v1 was detecting laser like crazy!

[TeamQuack]

hey guys, any word on the mid/end of July meet up? It would be exciting to see the variety of lidar guns that are tested on the ALPs.


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