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RigToFly01
03-28-2014, 01:48 PM
I was driving to work today. It seems my local police now have the TruSpeed. I was on my way to the Parkway and my wife and daughter were following me in my wife's car. Down the road I saw a white BMW pulled over with a cop standing next to it. He had the TruSpeed in his hand. He was not aiming at cars when I passed right next to him. I am pretty sure he was shooting me as I approached from a distance. After I got about 200' past him, the ALP gave me 2 Alerts. Both saying that they were Forward alerts. When it first went off I thought maybe he was shooting me in the rear. (no jokes please) The MAX in my car and the 9500ix in my wife's were silent the whole time. Which I expected.

Has anyone had this happen to them? Any insights would be helpful.

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FJR1300
03-28-2014, 02:08 PM
Could it be a bluetooth delay? I'm thinking you may not have the remote led in use to confirm alp connect timing with led?
Just a guess.

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RedRocket
03-28-2014, 02:10 PM
What is the question ?
1.Why didn't the AL-P alert before you got to him?
-or-
2.Why didn't your Max or wife's CM alert?
BestRadarDetectors
03-28-2014, 02:30 PM
Without having a cam and more details my guess is he shot a vehicle in front of you or even on the other side of the road as you passed and with the sensitivity of the ALP you caught a reflection off of the other vehicle that was shot. ALP's respond instantly and I have never seen a delay on any shot.
Mirage
03-28-2014, 02:33 PM
Without having a cam and more details my guess is he shot a vehicle in front of you or even on the other side of the road as you passed and with the sensitivity of the ALP you caught a reflection off of the other vehicle that was shot. ALP's respond instantly and I have never seen a delay on any shot.

I agree with Toms assessment as I've never seen a delay in the testing we have done and Won and I have tested every gun except a laser atlanta.

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RigToFly01
03-28-2014, 02:55 PM
Without having a cam and more details my guess is he shot a vehicle in front of you or even on the other side of the road as you passed and with the sensitivity of the ALP you caught a reflection off of the other vehicle that was shot. ALP's respond instantly and I have never seen a delay on any shot.

If it was a reflection, it should of been a Rear alert and not a Front alert. Right? Since I was 200' past him and there is no way the 3 front sensors would got a reflection.
RigToFly01
03-28-2014, 02:56 PM
What is the question ?
1.Why didn't the AL-P alert before you got to him?
-or-
2.Why didn't your Max or wife's CM alert?

Yes RR #1.

I know why the 2 Radar Detectors did not alert.
Salty
03-28-2014, 02:58 PM
If it was a reflection, it should of been a Rear alert and not a Front alert. Right? Since I was 200' past him and there is no way the 3 front sensors would got a reflection.

If he shot a car behind you yes, it should have been a rear alert. However, if for some reason he shot a car in front of you, even after you passed, you would get the alert from the front. ALP's are ridiculous sensitive and will pick up scatter. The only explanation would be for some reason he shot a car in front of you, after you passed him.
RigToFly01
03-28-2014, 03:06 PM
If he shot a car behind you yes, it should have been a rear alert. However, if for some reason he shot a car in front of you, even after you passed, you would get the alert from the front. ALP's are ridiculous sensitive and will pick up scatter. The only explanation would be for some reason he shot a car in front of you, after you passed him.

Ok. I guess the next investment is going to be a CAM. I wanted to turn around and try it again but I was running late. The next time I see them in my town with it, I am going to do a couple laps.
BestRadarDetectors
03-28-2014, 03:16 PM
If it was a reflection, it should of been a Rear alert and not a Front alert. Right? Since I was 200' past him and there is no way the 3 front sensors would got a reflection.

If he was shooting a car coming towards you or a car in front of you your front heads would most likely catch the scatter not your rear heads.
Mirage
03-28-2014, 03:18 PM
Also front heads take priority if both are receiving.

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curmudgeon
03-28-2014, 03:19 PM
The next time I see them in my town with it, I am going to do a couple laps.

The sign of a true cm addict:eagerness:
RedRocket
03-28-2014, 03:23 PM
Yes RR #1.
Well,we'll see how you do when we meet in Taxachusetts in a few days.
I would guess he was targeting the cars ahead of you & b/c the TS throws out such a narrow beam (at short range) you got no scatter,by the time you became his interest at <200' (or less) it took a couple of seconds for him to re-aim & pull trigger ...you were just about on top of him by then.
Salty
03-28-2014, 03:39 PM
Ok. I guess the next investment is going to be a CAM. I wanted to turn around and try it again but I was running late. The next time I see them in my town with it, I am going to do a couple laps.

A couple of years ago, my wife and I were driving home on the parkway. There was a cop shooting lidar, but he didn't shoot me b/c I saw him way ahead of time, slowed, and moved over to the right lane. I wanted to turn around and my wife looked at me like I had three heads, and called me a dork.
curmudgeon
03-28-2014, 03:49 PM
my wife looked at me like I had three heads, and called me a dork.

Dork (maybe) or not, she still loves ya.............all that matters
Salty
03-28-2014, 03:55 PM
my wife looked at me like I had three heads, and called me a dork.

Dork (maybe) or not, she still loves ya.............all that matters

That's right sir!
CJR238
03-28-2014, 04:09 PM
If it was a reflection, it should of been a Rear alert and not a Front alert. Right? Since I was 200' past him and there is no way the 3 front sensors would got a reflection.

I agree here, no way the front heads should have alerted to a car being shot behind you at 200ft and the rear didn't alert. However in rain or a dusty conditions lidar can reflect/disperse off particles in the air and provide a good amount of scatter so this may be why?
RedRocket
03-28-2014, 04:10 PM
The next time I see them in my town with it, I am going to do a couple laps.Yeah,but you still won't know the exact moment the trigger is pulled to determine if you have a "delay" or not.I'll bring a couple of walkie-talkies so you can "hear" me announce while I pull the trigger.
Tman
03-28-2014, 04:42 PM
I dont know if it is of value , i got a rear alert on my Li rear this way :
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CJR238
03-28-2014, 04:50 PM
I dont know if it is of value , i got a rear alert on my Li rear this way :
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That would make sense, but for some reason with the same type of scenario he got a front alert when the scatter should have set off the rear.
Lucky225
03-28-2014, 04:55 PM
That would make sense, but for some reason with the same type of scenario he got a front alert when the scatter should have set off the rear.

I believe the above drawing the blue is approaching the officer as green is passing. In THIS particular scenario BDR is suggesting the the officer was shooting the REAR of a vehicle in FRONT of the car, thus the rear scatters backwards to the front of the green car.
Tman
03-28-2014, 05:38 PM
I believe the above drawing the blue is approaching the officer as green is passing. In THIS particular scenario BDR is suggesting the the officer was shooting the REAR of a vehicle in FRONT of the car, thus the rear scatters backwards to the front of the green car.

Direction of travel of both car :1243
Lucky225
03-28-2014, 06:04 PM
Direction of travel of both car :1243

Understood, but in the situation described by OP, I believe BDR is suggesting THIS happened:
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speed-dreams
03-28-2014, 06:22 PM
Just buy a laser tester , hit the heads with it, and see if it has a delay in the alerts.
shanetrainST
03-28-2014, 07:17 PM
Might not be scatter, sometime they work in groups of two.
When one is pulling a car over, the second Leo is still hiding in the bushes a little further down capturing speed.
Lucky225
03-28-2014, 08:00 PM
Might not be scatter, sometime they work in groups of two.
When one is pulling a car over, the second Leo is still hiding in the bushes a little further down capturing speed.

x2, sometimes if it's a divided highway they'll shoot opposite directions from both sides as well and then radio someone else to pull over.
BestRadarDetectors
03-28-2014, 08:06 PM
Understood, but in the situation described by OP, I believe BDR is suggesting THIS happened:
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Correct. Without a Cam and seeing he situation we will never know exactly what happened but if his front alerted and not the rear this diagram will certainly explain it. They could have also been shooting at cars in the opposite lane further down coming towards him and it could have had the same effect. Based on his speed being 35MPH he probably was not the target.
Lucky225
03-28-2014, 08:09 PM
Correct. Without a Cam and seeing he situation we will never know exactly what happened but if his front alerted and not the rear this diagram will certainly explain it. They could have also been shooting at cars in the opposite lane further down coming towards him and it could have had the same effect. Based on his speed being 35MPH he probably was not the target.

And also I think I'm dyslexic, that was supposed to be BRD :D