ALP GPS Antenna's

[BestRadarDetectors]

We will receive samples next week to test the new ALP GPS antennas. Originally AntiLaser wanted to use a generic GPS antenna's but there were so many differences with these aftermarket antennas and they were wired differently that they did not feel comfortable with using them. To prevent damage to the Radar/GPS Module they decided to go the route of distributing their own GPS Antenna. They will not be expensive and should retail for around $59.95. I will have more information next week.

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With using GPS there are 3 settings to adjust on the ALP Setup site:

1. Laser Interference Defense mechanism will not be activated unless you are moving at the speed greater then what you define.
2. Radar detection will not be activated unless you are moving at the speed greater then what you define
3. Parking alerts will not be given if vehicle is driving at speed above what you define

You can define different speeds for each of these processes when setting up your ALP on the ALP Setup site: http://www.alpupdate.com

[melbVt]

Thats great news for me ! Horray! I'm huge fan of GPS & Radar module and have stop using radar plug in till GPS antenna arrives then I can test her features out and see how the false alerts are like as when I plugged it in last time lots interferences, I hope the next objective I hope by antilaser is block out or Signal Rejection or Interference Lock,

Its in my belief where there's a wont there is a way,

Thanks keep up this good work!

[Mirage]

Sign me up for one

[L&R]

Wow, fantastic features from AntiLaser always first!!

[Tman]

''They will not be expensive and should retail for around $40.''

This is what i appreciate from Brd : fair pricing even on accessories ...bravo.

[dinkydi]

features features features, the ALP progression just keeps rolling, gotta love it, great work brd :encouragement:

[Abarth695]

So let me see if I understand correctly. By adding the gps do I need something else to give me alerts. In other words the GPS is only the antenna so to speak and I need other hardware to pick up the alerts?

[BestRadarDetectors]

So let me see if I understand correctly. By adding the gps do I need something else to give me alerts. In other words the GPS is only the antenna so to speak and I need other hardware to pick up the alerts?

Of course you need an AL Priority System, A GPS antenna is just an antenna and will not do anything on its own.

[dinkydi]

So let me see if I understand correctly. By adding the gps do I need something else to give me alerts. In other words the GPS is only the antenna so to speak and I need other hardware to pick up the alerts?

gps just gives you more options on how you want to set ur alerts, which is great,

[BestRadarDetectors]

Specifications on these new GPS antennas have a 6M length. I feel that the cable is too long and should be shorter. What do you think the max length anyone would need with one of these GPS antennas? Where do you guys think you will mount them? I guess they are making them long enough so that if someone wants to mount one on the the rear deck its long enough but I would mount mine on the dash which would leave over 10FT of extra cable under the dash. Any thoughts on this?

[Abarth695]

Hi,
Yes I understand you need the ALP which I have. So to clarify, I connect the GPS to the ALP and through the Blue Tooth and IPhone App, it will know I am in Australia and where the speed cameras are? How does it know where the cameras are? Is there some type of database inside it or a database that is uploadd to the iPhone via an update to the App similar to Trapster??.?
Thanks for your help clarifying

[BestRadarDetectors]

Hi,
Yes I understand you need the ALP which I have. So to clarify, I connect the GPS to the ALP and through the Blue Tooth and IPhone App, it will know I am in Australia and where the speed cameras are? How does it know where the cameras are? Is there some type of database inside it or a database that is uploadd to the iPhone via an update to the App similar to Trapster??.?
Thanks for your help clarifying

This has nothing to do with cameras.. Please re-read the first post and it explains the benefits of adding the GPS antenna.

[Abarth695]

Ok thanks but if you are using iPod or iPhone which have GPS built in and currently gives you travelling speed, why can't the app utilise the GPS you already have. Those without the App, would only need to use the GPS antenna
Does this make sense?

[BestRadarDetectors]

Ok thanks but if you are using iPod or iPhone which have GPS built in and currently gives you travelling speed, why can't the app utilise the GPS you already have. Those without the App, would only need to use the GPS antenna
Does this make sense?

Because the ALP Connect App is not doing the filtering the CPU itself is and it needs its own dedicated connection to a GPS Signal.

[Abarth695]

Gotcha
Thanks for explaining :emmersed:

[ECMExpert]

Of course you need an AL Priority System, A GPS antenna is just an antenna and will not do anything on its own.



Where will this plug into the ALP and do you also need to be running an RD for this to work. You know Tom that I want one, so sign me up!

[winterbrew]

Where will this plug into the ALP and do you also need to be running an RD for this to work. You know Tom that I want one, so sign me up!

Plugs into the R/G module ;

http://www.alpriorityusa.com/AL-Priority-RG-Module.html

Guess you don't need a compatible RD plugged into the R/G module if you only need lidar defence inhibited below a certain speed

[winterbrew]

Specifications on these new GPS antennas have a 6M length. I feel that the cable is too long and should be shorter. What do you think the max length anyone would need with one of these GPS antennas? Where do you guys think you will mount them? I guess they are making them long enough so that if someone wants to mount one on the the rear deck its long enough but I would mount mine on the dash which would leave over 10FT of extra cable under the dash. Any thoughts on this?

Does sound a bit long - I'd definately put in in a corner on the front dash, so 3m min would be good, but as you say, for a large vehicle, 6m should be plenty to cover all mounting options, especially for external mounting. A V1 'Savvy' type radar muting under a set speed after getting used to YaV1 on the V1C would definitely be welcome when driving through shopping center car parks, gas stations etc :)

[BestRadarDetectors]

Plugs into the R/G module ;

http://www.alpriorityusa.com/AL-Priority-RG-Module.html

Guess you don't need a compatible RD plugged into the R/G module if you only need lidar defence inhibited below a certain speed

I am waiting for a response from AL. Originally the ALP was designed with the GPS Port and they later expanded it to Radar & GPS through the RG Module but I am hoping they left the original GPS option still there and maybe it wont need the RG Module. I will know shortly.

[Mirage]

Specifications on these new GPS antennas have a 6M length. I feel that the cable is too long and should be shorter. What do you think the max length anyone would need with one of these GPS antennas? Where do you guys think you will mount them? I guess they are making them long enough so that if someone wants to mount one on the the rear deck its long enough but I would mount mine on the dash which would leave over 10FT of extra cable under the dash. Any thoughts on this?

IMO this is too long. I too will be placing the antenna on my dash so therefore at most I would need 3-4 ft. Now this is considering my ALP is mounted under my dash.

[dinkydi]

can you allow for the two options short/long, for those who need to go from front to rear

[BestRadarDetectors]

can you allow for the two options short/long, for those who need to go from front to rear

AntiLaser ordered a large number of long ones that will eventually flow to DGC. We are trying to order from the manufacture the same item but with a shorter cord for the US customers.

[KrpA]

if you can crimp RJ connectors, you can always cut the extra cable.

[BestRadarDetectors]

if you can crimp RJ connectors, you can always cut the extra cable.

Very True... They are only RJ11 connectors just like telephone cords.

[melbVt]

BRD there still not in Oz yet!

[BestRadarDetectors]

BRD there still not in Oz yet!

I really do not know how the Distribution looks on them since we had ordered our own directly from the factory with shorter cables then the standard AL Ones..

[Jacovn]

I am waiting for a response from AL. Originally the ALP was designed with the GPS Port and they later expanded it to Radar & GPS through the RG Module but I am hoping they left the original GPS option still there and maybe it wont need the RG Module. I will know shortly.

Any news on this ?
I like the things the gps would give me, but i have only the alp and not the radar/gps module, if i do not need it to connect the gps antenna it will save some money.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Any news on this ?
I like the things the gps would give me, but i have only the alp and not the radar/gps module, if i do not need it to connect the gps antenna it will save some money.

GPS will only work with the RG Module.

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[dinkydi]

been running with bt and gps, and occasionally i get a small three bar graph to the right side of the kph digit on my 5s , what are they, they seem to appear at random, some time when it drops down to a single bar it's green other time they are grey color, just dont know what brings them on, they wer'nt there on the previous fw

also will there be a notification as to the gps locking in the future

[BestRadarDetectors]

been running with bt and gps, and occasionally i get a small three bar graph to the right side of the kph digit on my 5s , what are they, they seem to appear at random, some time when it drops down to a single bar it's green other time they are grey color, just dont know what brings them on, they wer'nt there on the previous fw

also will there be a notification as to the gps locking in the future

Have a snapshot?

[dinkydi]

no sorry Tom, it,s seems completely random, be hard to capture and need another cam with me and dosent stay on for long poss 1-3 secs and then gorn, the longest a single bar stopped on was color green while i was standing at traffic lights

[BestRadarDetectors]

no sorry Tom, it,s seems completely random, be hard to capture and need another cam with me and dosent stay on for long poss 1-3 secs and then gorn, the longest a single bar stopped on was color green while i was standing at traffic lights

This was within the ALP Connect App or on your phones notification bar?

[dinkydi]

when running in alp app, the blue car in the picture, where the kms #'s are on the right next to the digits, the graph runs verticle

[BestRadarDetectors]

when running in alp app, the blue car in the picture, where the kms #'s are on the right next to the digits, the graph runs verticle

The Radar Signal Strength bar? Or the 3 Hash Marks showing a Front or Rear Hit?


http://youtu.be/yXlUE3A7nwc

[dinkydi]

ahha, yep thats the one radar strength, i gets lots of k alerts but only ever seen three bars occasionally, doesn't seem to be consistent or i would have been able to relate to that, didn't know it went up so high,

[dinkydi]

is there a notification showing in the phone app, showing the gps is connected and when its acquired gps lock ?

[Jacovn]

Is this already available ?

[BestRadarDetectors]

is there a notification showing in the phone app, showing the gps is connected and when its acquired gps lock ?

There is a new GPS icon in ALP Connect that will flash in the upper right corner when there is no GPS Signal:

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[BestRadarDetectors]

Is this already available ?

Only in the US but should get to other distributors in the near future.

[dcrolltide]

does the AL Priority GPS Antenna need to be placed on the dash, or somewhere that has clear view of the sky? Or can it be hidden, and will just take longer to acquire a signal?

[BestRadarDetectors]

does the AL Priority GPS Antenna need to be placed on the dash, or somewhere that has clear view of the sky? Or can it be hidden, and will just take longer to acquire a signal?

It should be placed on the dash to give it a good solid signal.

[dukes]

Just received my GPS antenna today and installed it. (Thanks Tom)! I love how I can set my LID Speed limit. I have one question, when testing it out parked in my driveway it displays the yellow car because I am below the speed limit threshold. However when I shoot my PLIII at it it alerts but switches to defense mode until my LID time expires (4 seconds) . I don't have an IR camera so I am just wondering if the heads are firing back. The length of the gps antenna is great for truck owners :D btw.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Just received my GPS antenna today and installed it. (Thanks Tom)! I love how I can set my LID Speed limit. I have one question, when testing it out parked in my driveway it displays the yellow car because I am below the speed limit threshold. However when I shoot my PLIII at it it alerts but switches to defense mode until my LID time expires (4 seconds) . I don't have an IR camera so I am just wondering if the heads are firing back.

There are 3 separate settings for GPS (Parking Sensor Speed, Radar Speed & Lidar Speed) you will need to configure a new setup file with settings for all 3.
Also, If there is no GPS signal it will automatically operate as if no GPS was attached.

[dukes]

There are 3 separate settings for GPS (Parking Sensor Speed, Radar Speed & Lidar Speed) you will need to configure a new setup file with settings for all 3.

I configured the "Define PDC SPEED limit" at 20 kph, "Define PDC SPEED limit" at 10 kph but left the radar speed at no limit. Are these settings correct? While driving with these settings my alp connect car stays yellow till I go above 20 kph, but like I said when its yellow and I shoot my system it turns blue.

[BestRadarDetectors]

I configured the "Define PDC SPEED limit" at 20 kph, "Define PDC SPEED limit" at 10 kph but left the radar speed at no limit. Are these settings correct? While driving with these settings my alp connect car stays yellow till I go above 20 kph, but like I said when its yellow and I shoot my system it turns blue.

It will not fire back under the set speed unless the GPS signal is lost. Mirage uses the GPS and he will probably chime in but I would guess its just letting you know of the alert.

[dukes]

It will not fire back under the set speed unless the GPS signal is lost. Mirage uses the GPS and he will probably chime in but I would guess its just letting you know of the alert.


Yea I am seeing the little gps icon and like I said it appears to be working since when I go above 20 kph the system returns to defense mode. Just thought I would ask, thanks Tom!

[winterbrew]

You need to configure the LID speed limit as well, which is further down the setup page;

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If you're using the STiR+ as well, you need to set speeds for PDC, Radar, and LID (they default to no limit, unless you change them)

[dinkydi]

set my radar to 60 km/h in OZ to keep shops and servos out,,

[dcrolltide]

My GPS antenna finally arrived and installed it yesterday. Is normal operation the red blinking light, or should the light be solid red, when GPS signal acquired? Wondering if it blinks or goes solid, based on a certain event.

[Mirage]

My GPS antenna finally arrived and installed it yesterday. Is normal operation the red blinking light, or should the light be solid red, when GPS signal acquired? Wondering if it blinks or goes solid, based on a certain event.

Without the blue tooth module it is difficult to tell when you have GPS lock unless you set a speed limit on the lid. If you are below the lid speed limit then the led will change to green or yellow (can't remember
which but it will not be blue). When your speed increases to above the set limit the led will change back to blue. If you do not have a GPS signal the ALP cpu will default to the highest protection mode.

[dcrolltide]

Hmm. I have my led set to dark mode - so that won't be a way for me to tell either :/. When the system boots up now, I get fast led flashing green - don't remember this pre gps installation. I assume that is telling me that the GPS antenna is attached?


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[Lucky225]

We will receive samples next week to test the new ALP GPS antennas. Originally AntiLaser wanted to use a generic GPS antenna's but there were so many differences with these aftermarket antennas and they were wired differently that they did not feel comfortable with using them. To prevent damage to the Radar/GPS Module they decided to go the route of distributing their own GPS Antenna. They will not be expensive and should retail for around $40. I will have more information next week.

1071

With using GPS there are 3 settings to adjust on the ALP Setup site:

1. Laser Interference Defense mechanism will not be activated unless you are moving at the speed greater then what you define.
2. Radar detection will not be activated unless you are moving at the speed greater then what you define
3. Parking alerts will not be given if vehicle is driving at speed above what you define

You can define different speeds for each of these processes when setting up your ALP on the ALP Setup site: http://www.alpupdate.com


Does the ALP work with an ORIGINAL STi-R (non PLUS) antenna? ALP might be a nice option to upgrade my STi-R to Plus and get better jammer heads at the same time :)

[winterbrew]

My GPS antenna finally arrived and installed it yesterday. Is normal operation the red blinking light, or should the light be solid red, when GPS signal acquired? Wondering if it blinks or goes solid, based on a certain event.

Just to clarify that the LED inside the GPS antenna (not the ALP control set) blinks red once it has a lock. It never goes solid red

[dcrolltide]

What if the GPS antenna light is constantly blinking red? Mine blinks roughly every second


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[winterbrew]

What if the GPS antenna light is constantly blinking red? Mine blinks roughly every second


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That's normal operation :)

[dcrolltide]

Perfect. Thanks winterbrew!


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[awj223]

What is the behavior of the ALP, if you're under a speed threshold? Is it:
1. No alert
2. No audible alert, no firing back, but still logs the event

Also, if you go below and then above a speed threshold and you're in Dark Mode, do the LEDs flash green and then blue? Or do they not flash at all?

[winterbrew]

What is the behavior of the ALP, if you're under a speed threshold? Is it:
1. No alert
2. No audible alert, no firing back, but still logs the event

Also, if you go below and then above a speed threshold and you're in Dark Mode, do the LEDs flash green and then blue? Or do they not flash at all?

Under speed threshold, you're in detect only mode (yellow car on ALPConnect, or yellow LED on control set), so you will get a lidar detection/alert logged (no firing back). If you have the STi-R+ integrated, you get no radar alert/log below the threshold.

After the initial warm up period when it goes into dark mode, the LED's do not flash again when you cross the threshold. If not in dark mode, the LED flashes blue when above the threshold (defense), and flashes yellow (detection only) below the threshold.

[dcrolltide]

I've been running the GPS Atenna on my ALP Quad / STIR Plus combo for a couple days now. The GPS antenna completely changed my experience for the better. No more radar falsing, while sitting or slowly moving through traffic. For ~ $40 - it's a no brainer.

Well done ALP!

[awj223]

I've been running the GPS Atenna on my ALP Quad / STIR Plus combo for a couple days now. The GPS antenna completely changed my experience for the better. No more radar falsing, while sitting or slowly moving through traffic. For ~ $40 - it's a no brainer.

Well done ALP!

I'd still be worried about not catching I/O shots. Say you're stuck in traffic, and right past the jam, there's a cop shooting I/O...

[deano]

or your travelling through road works on our freeway 100 kph zone some temporarily road works will be set at 80 /60 even 40 kph then what as far as the gps thinks the road is still 100kph

[winterbrew]

or your travelling through road works on our freeway 100 kph zone some temporarily road works will be set at 80 /60 even 40 kph then what as far as the gps thinks the road is still 100kph

The ALP GPS/ALPConnect doesn't have a road/location database, it only currently uses the GPS to calculate your speed, so that's not a problem currently. My radar / lidar threshold is set at 40km/h, as thats the lowest speed limit in school zones here.

[dcrolltide]

Something strange has been happening lately with my alp / stir w Gps lately. Now when I turn my system on, I get fast blinking red and green lights after the system has warmed up. It seems like it's telling me "GPS error" because I think the gps functionality doesn't work, when this extra light sequence happens,...

Anyone know what the system is doing here?

[Mirage]

Something strange has been happening lately with my alp / stir w Gps lately. Now when I turn my system on, I get fast blinking red and green lights after the system has warmed up. It seems like it's telling me "GPS error" because I think the gps functionality doesn't work, when this extra light sequence happens,...

Anyone know what the system is doing here?

That is normal operation with the standard control unit. I believe it indicates the number of satellites it has acquired. As with any GPS device the more sats the better but I find the ALP to be accurate enough for what it uses GPS for. Have you tried setting a lid speed and verifying that the control led switches to yellow when under the threshold and blue when above it?

[dcrolltide]

Not yet. I run in led dark mode, so I need to change that to test it. I will do it and let you know. Thanks


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[wirelessandy]

Does GPS antenna orientation matter? Flat side up vs. down? Was thinking of mounting on the glass up high, behind the rear view mirror (flat side up).

[Vehicle 1]

^ I mounted mine at the bottom of the A-pilar, in the fuse box area where all my other hardwired stuff is. Since the antenna is magnetic, I just stuck it on a piece of metal there. It’s sitting vertically, with one layer of plastic covering it and it’s been working fine.

[991TurboS]

The manufacturers say to mount the antenna where it has a clear view of the sky. Whether that is actually required all the time I don't know, but I would guess they recommend that as a best location to sure it has a lock the most often.

I have searched this antenna on the web, and although the thought here is that the GPS antenna is not waterproof, all seller product descriptions I have reviewed says it is waterproof and can be placed outside and even used in Marine applications. I mounted mine on the inside on the dash, as I really do not want an ugly black wart on the outside.

Manufacturer: Locosys. Model LS 23036-G

http://www.elecomes.com/article.php?id=31

[BestRadarDetectors]

The manufacturers say to mount the antenna where it has a clear view of the sky. Whether that is actually required all the time I don't know, but I would guess they recommend that as a best location to sure it has a lock the most often.

I have searched this antenna on the web, and although the thought here is that the GPS antenna is not waterproof, all seller product descriptions I have reviewed says it is waterproof and can be placed outside and even used in Marine applications. I mounted mine on the inside on the dash, as I really do not want an ugly black wart on the outside.

Manufacturer: Locosys. Model LS 23036-G

http://www.elecomes.com/article.php?id=31

Just pop off part of the dash panel and put the antenna inside the panel where the cars factory GPS antennas usually reside.

[991TurboS]

Just pop off part of the dash panel and put the antenna inside the panel where the cars factory GPS antennas usually reside.

So the receiver can be blocked by plastic dash pieces and still function well? My stock GPS is on the back roof part of the car, not in the dash. If I can conceal the ALP GPS inside the dash, I will do so.

[tawwwd]

So the receiver can be blocked by plastic dash pieces and still function well? My stock GPS is on the back roof part of the car, not in the dash. If I can conceal the ALP GPS inside the dash, I will do so.

itll work fine behind the dash

not sure how your car is exactly but the shark fin on the roof is usually for satellite radio etc...GPS reciever (at least in my vehicles) is behind the nav unit in the upper part of the dash.

[991TurboS]

itll work fine behind the dash

not sure how your car is exactly but the shark fin on the roof is usually for satellite radio etc...GPS reciever (at least in my vehicles) is behind the nav unit in the upper part of the dash.

Maybe it is the satellite antennae and not the GPS.

I went ahead and mounted the antenna in the trunk area of the car, which in a 911 is the front. It is sitting under the black plastic cowling lining the bottom part of the front windshield, so it should get a good signal. It is a dry location.

[wirelessandy]

What if the GPS antenna light is constantly blinking red? Mine blinks roughly every second

That's normal operation :)

I did a quick plug-in test today. Yup, noticed an LED on the GPS antenna itself, and a larger one on the R/G unit.

Let me see if I understand:

GPS antenna LED: normal (signal ok) = blinking?

R/G LED: normal = ____?

[winterbrew]

I did a quick plug-in test today. Yup, noticed an LED on the GPS antenna itself, and a larger one on the R/G unit.

Let me see if I understand:

GPS antenna LED: normal (signal ok) = blinking?

R/G LED: normal = ____?

Yes, blinking red LED on the GPS antenna = signal OK

If you're using the HiFi control set, it will also announce if the GPS signal's been lost (I think the LED on the std control set flickers red briefly if this happens)

My r/g module is tucked away under the dash, so can't remember what that does, although constant green LED comes to mind :)

[wirelessandy]

No hifi here. Good to know about the antenna blinking! That will be handy.

Update: Confirmed. I can't see the R/G module either. It's also tucked away now.

[awj223]

I remember hearing something about time and geotagging alerts with the GPS receiver. Is this feature going to happen, and if so, when? I might have to order a GPS antenna if this feature is added.

[BestRadarDetectors]

I remember hearing something about time and geotagging alerts with the GPS receiver. Is this feature going to happen, and if so, when? I might have to order a GPS antenna if this feature is added.
Too many more important things being worked on. Protection is always first before non important features. Eventually stats will be redone but that won't happen until other things being worked on get completed.

[awj223]

Too many more important things being worked on. Protection is always first before non important features. Eventually stats will be redone but that won't happen until other things being worked on get completed.

So does AL Display take priority over this? Acutally, I'm kinda hoping it does, because then I could order the display + GPS antenna in one go and save on shipping :)

[BestRadarDetectors]

Display & Stat Logs are at the bottom of a long list of things being developed at the moment.

[kevmat]

- d e l e t e d -

[Abarth695]

So I notice on the latest AL app for iPhone it asks GPS source by a ALP or Mobile
Does this now mean you don't need the GPS antenna as the phone will be used to define speed to control the respective functions
That's great if it is the case will save many some money

[BestRadarDetectors]

So I notice on the latest AL app for iPhone it asks GPS source by a ALP or Mobile
Does this now mean you don't need the GPS antenna as the phone will be used to define speed to control the respective functions
That's great if it is the case will save many some money

No, That is so that iPad users of ALP can obtain speed when using the attached GPS antenna on the ALP. It also allows phone users to turn off GPS on their phone and save battery power if they have an ALP with an attached GPS.

[Abarth695]

Thanks for that
Since on topic
Is there any way in the future the phone GPS could communicate via Bluetooth to the system and eliminate the need for seperate antenna?

[BestRadarDetectors]

No, All processing needs to be done on the CPU side and GPS antenna from the ALP is much more accurate.

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[winterbrew]

It also allows phone users to turn off GPS on their phone and save battery power if they have an ALP with an attached GPS.

Just tried this for the first time today (using the ALP's GPS antenna rather than the iPhone's).

Using my old iPhone 4S with no SIM, flight mode on, and bluetooth on, drove for about an hour and a half, and the battery only went from 100% to 90% which is a massive improvement over the battery consumption when using the iPhone's GPS constantly.

Very impressed :)