Check your speeding infringement is valid (WA and other states with Poliscan camera)

[winterbrew]

Before you pay your infringement (particularly in WA), check that the infringement is valid, in accordance with the speed camera manufacturers (Vitronic) guidleines ;

http://www.policespeedcameras.info/index.php/en/392-western-australia-perth-the-best-kept-secret-of-the-wa-police-and-state-government-until-now.html

From Vitronic ;



Reject the photo as an evidence, if

- neither a front wheel (in case of front measurement) nor the license plate are at
least in part visible within the template,
respectively

- neither a rear wheel (in case of rear measurement) nor the license plate are at
least in part visible within the template,

or

- other road users travelling on the same lane or an adjacent lane are visible
within the template,

or

- the lower edge of the template frame is not beneath the wheels.

[TrueBlue]

good thread and very informative knowledge is power

[shanetrainST]

Wonder if any of these things apply to the fine BRD wife got? Might have different rules over there.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Wonder if any of these things apply to the fine BRD wife got? Might have different rules over there.

The Box is Viewable in this photo and its within the requirements. My only complaint is that I cant see my plate in any photo except an enhanced closeup.

465

Closeup Photo that shows the plate number:

466

In either case since there are no points and the fine is low I have paid it and moved on but I will be on the lookout for them in the future.

[winterbrew]

Thanks for that plate close up BRD. I think that that white line is the one mentioned here ;


Additionally, the graphical template includes an auxiliary line which corresponds with a scale of 0.5m. It's vertical position visualises the sampling level.

So basically, that point on the car is where the Poliscan took it's readings from, which is why sometimes if the sensors are above the license plate on a parking sensor equipped car, you might get a failure to detect as the beam diameter is very narrow at this point. Thats why you need the max sensitivity proivided by the ALP over the LI etc.

[Abarth695]

So was travelling last night over the Gateway bridge in Brissie to go see John Farnham and Lionel Richie. Great concert by the way and I got hit by Poliscan and the speed noted on the alert was 93 km/h. Is this the speed the AL9 detected the Poliscan before I had a chance to brake and slow down or does it mean I've been detected at that speed by the Poliscan and therefore will get a ticket.
On the way home around Logan with night road works, out of the blue came Safety Camera or something like that. Is that used by the Police to see if your speeding through road works or is it just a monitoring device?
Thanks for your help

[dinkydi]

Think the polis are in the over head gantry tolls may be,don't know about traffic monitoring some of the guys that travel more around that area may chime in

[busta]

So was travelling last night over the Gateway bridge in Brissie to go see John Farnham and Lionel Richie. Great concert by the way and I got hit by Poliscan and the speed noted on the alert was 93 km/h. Is this the speed the AL9 detected the Poliscan before I had a chance to brake and slow down or does it mean I've been detected at that speed by the Poliscan and therefore will get a ticket.
On the way home around Logan with night road works, out of the blue came Safety Camera or something like that. Is that used by the Police to see if your speeding through road works or is it just a monitoring device?
Thanks for your help

Toll cameras not speed so all good

[beingaware]

So was travelling last night over the Gateway bridge in Brissie to go see John Farnham and Lionel Richie. Great concert by the way and I got hit by Poliscan and the speed noted on the alert was 93 km/h. Is this the speed the AL9 detected the Poliscan before I had a chance to brake and slow down or does it mean I've been detected at that speed by the Poliscan and therefore will get a ticket.
On the way home around Logan with night road works, out of the blue came Safety Camera or something like that. Is that used by the Police to see if your speeding through road works or is it just a monitoring device?
Thanks for your help


This is what you experienced.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo5HU3HdDQA

Different view.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbgB3x4yahs

[dinkydi]

:encouragement:

[Abarth695]

Thanks guys, so can you confirm the speed noted in the display. Is it the speed you were going when it detects the laser then you have 4 seconds approx to slow down therefore not the speed it would nab you for?

[winterbrew]

Yes, its the speed at which you were travelling when it first detected the laser :)

[melbVt]

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[beingaware]

Thanks guys, so can you confirm the speed noted in the display. Is it the speed you were going when it detects the laser then you have 4 seconds approx to slow down therefore not the speed it would nab you for?

Nope, not from that height.
You would need to put "parking sensors" facing up towards it.

[winterbrew]

Looks like there is some more info on invalid infringements ;


Poliscanspeed Court Evidence 2011 Germany Traffic Test Case Poliscanspeed Court Evidence

Except "... It must be noted that the height of the perspective evaluation template according to the manufacturer's instructions should always be exactly 1 m - no tolerance , not roughly , not " there-abouts " - but exactly 1 m. This perspective is, however, not amount calibrated size and therefore to be regarded not necessarily as safe..." Google Translation.

http://www.policespeedcameras.info/index.php/en/424-wa-police-ignoring-poliscanspeed-rules-illegal-fines.html

So now we know that the evaluation template height should always be 1m, as well as Vitronic's existing guidelines for valid photo evidence

[crimson96]

Does Poliscan now use a different checkbox template?

I'm in Perth, Western Australia and I've just seen a photo and it now has a "crosshair" instead of a box - is this a new version of Poliscan ?

If yes - how do we now evaluate the photo if its a valid ticket?

If not, anyone know what laser speed measuring device it is?

Thanks.

[winterbrew]

Does Poliscan now use a different checkbox template?

I'm in Perth, Western Australia and I've just seen a photo and it now has a "crosshair" instead of a box - is this a new version of Poliscan ?

If yes - how do we now evaluate the photo if its a valid ticket?

If not, anyone know what laser speed measuring device it is?

Thanks.

Thats probably from the new Jenoptik TraffiStar S350M that was approved for use earlier last year in the Gazette.

Method of operation is very similar to Poliscan. No one has a copy of the specifications or manual yet, so hard to say what is and isn't valid

[crimson96]

Thats probably from the new Jenoptik TraffiStar S350M that was approved for use earlier last year in the Gazette.

Method of operation is very similar to Poliscan. No one has a copy of the specifications or manual yet, so hard to say what is and isn't valid

Ok thanks - do you know if most laser jammers pick these up (not for jamming) but to detect these lasers? I'm thinking of older Blinders or ALP's - would they detect these?

Does anyone know where - if any - there are fixed/permanent Jenoptik TraffiStar S350M working in Perth? I'd like to test them out :-)

[winterbrew]

Blinders - don't know - very similar to Poliscan, may alert occasionally.
ALP - detect / jam since 2014
LI - doesn't detect / jam - very similar to Poliscan, may alert occasionally.

The only permanent one I know is the one on Indian Ocean drive about 110km out of Perth. You'll come across a mobile one on a tripod soon enough. They are much harder to detect than Poliscan (lower power), even the mighty V1 won't give you much warning.

[winterbrew]

Blinders - don't know - very similar to Poliscan, may alert occasionally.
ALP - detect / jam since 2014
LI - doesn't detect / jam - very similar to Poliscan, may alert occasionally.

The only permanent one I know is the one on Indian Ocean drive about 110km out of Perth. You'll come across a mobile one on a tripod soon enough. They are much harder to detect than Poliscan (lower power), even the mighty V1 won't give you much warning.