New ALP CPU constantly beeping and red flashing led

[beingaware]

Well my unit is new.

Issue is, when it turns on, I get a flashing red led and it goes beep beep, gap then led flashes and then beep beep, and repeat.
It happily does a firmware update + settings load but thats it.
Even with no heads connect, it just does the above.

Any suggestions?
I really hope my new ALP wasn't DOA...

[dinkydi]

is there a reset function,aint got ALP, but if they beeps repeat could be error code fault

[beingaware]

is there a reset function,aint got ALP, but if they beeps repeat could be error code fault

The beeps suggest head fault or disconnected head.
But even with the first head I ever tested connected, it still does it.
And it won't let me factory reset it which is frustrating.

[dinkydi]

best wait to USA wakes up, or give deano/wb a hoy

[shanetrainST]

You have had only 5mins and you have broken it lol, you crack me up aware :) I have no other suggestion that you have not already tried, sorry

[winterbrew]

Look at page 14 in the manual, it tells you what all the beeps mean.

[Holla]

Wait till BRD wakes up in a few hours and he will get you straight :))

[beingaware]

You have had only 5mins and you have broken it lol, you crack me up aware :) I have no other suggestion that you have not already tried, sorry

Haha I didn''t do anything to it.
Just plugged it in and turned it on.
Wasted a whole day!!!!!!

Oh wells, as lest the car is tidy now, no more random cables running around lol.


Look at page 14 in the manual, it tells you what all the beeps mean.

It suggests faulty head or cable unplugged.
Even with the ALP head connected, I still get the beeping party.
I am trying to factory reset it but it won't allow me to, just keeps beeping away.

Is there any way to factory reset via the usb or on boot up rather then trying to get into the menu?

I hope I don't have to send the unit back to Perth...

[beingaware]

Figured it out.
The new ALP cable is faulty.
It just toasted my G9 cpu.
A bit pissed about it, but at lest I know the cause.

[deano]

it will beep when there are no heads connected its letting you know that there is a problem ...there is a reset page 11 in the manual I would have to type a full page to tell you how

this is why I wanted to know about the heads getting warm as im already on my 2nd CPU my first CPU died would not power up i had voltage i thought may be the CPU or handset ...i went back to the shop tim gave me a brand new CPU i quickly plugged her in and every thing worked

best to try one head at a time as seams like your cpu is still working maybe one of the heads or like you say the lead for the head has failed

ps there is a small fuse inside the CPU best not to open it up though as one of the cover screws is located under the serial number sticker best to send back the cpu first ...if they don't entertain you then go ahead and open it up

[beingaware]

Figured it out in the end.
Took me toasting my G9 CPU to figure it out haha.
Damn ALP lead is different, thus it will not work with G9 heads.
G9 cable for G9 heads.
ALP cable for ALP heads.
Oh wells, it all works well now :).

[shanetrainST]

Figured it out.
The new ALP cable is faulty.
It just toasted my G9 cpu.
A bit pissed about it, but at lest I know the cause.
That's expensive fault finding, what was wrong with the cable mate?

[beingaware]

That's expensive fault finding, what was wrong with the cable mate?

Cable was ok in the end.
It just HAS to be used with the ALP head.
If the G9 head is connected to it, the head dies.
Be careful when you connect yours up mate.

Forces me to buy another ALP head for the rear haha.
Oh wells, extra protection I guess....

[RedRocket]

@beingaware -
It sounds to me like everything was ok in the beginning & you were just to close to a wall or another vehicle...that's why it was "beeping"...it was sensing a reflection off something close by.

What was your "parking distance" set to in your Configure Table for the CPU ?

[beingaware]

@beingaware -
It sounds to me like everything was ok in the beginning & you were just to close to a wall or another vehicle...that's why it was "beeping"...it was sensing a reflection off something close by.

What was your "parking distance" set to in your Configure Table for the CPU ?

Nothing was close by.
After testing, I figured out the beeping was indeed a connection failure, the ALP cable + G9 = bad.
The head actually failed because of it, I wrongly assumed that just because the ALP cpu is G9 compatible, the cable running from the cpu to the head is actually wired different.
I am so glad it didn't kill the ALP head, as I would have been rather annoyed.

[RedRocket]

Clarification requested,beingaware -

Just so we can warn others in the future...
1.The Original G9 Sensor & Original G9 Sensor cable can be used/plugged into the NEW AL-P CPU.

2.The Original G9 Sensor & new "Priority" Sensor cable CANNOT be used/plugged into the NEW AL-P CPU.

Is this what you are stating ?

[BestRadarDetectors]

Nothing was close by.
After testing, I figured out the beeping was indeed a connection failure, the ALP cable + G9 = bad.
The head actually failed because of it, I wrongly assumed that just because the ALP cpu is G9 compatible, the cable running from the cpu to the head is actually wired different.
I am so glad it didn't kill the ALP head, as I would have been rather annoyed.

Morning, So as you have already learned the beeping was a sensor disconnected or failure message.

The back on the manual will explain what the sounds are:

LED Constant Red + 2 Beeps (Error 2) Cables unplugged or Defective sensor

You can never make the assumption just because din cables look the same that they are wired the same. Laser Interceptor, Blinder, Etc. all use Din Connectors but they are all wired differently. You have already learned this the hard way, But if you were just swapping the CPU with your old G9 CPU everything should have worked right out of the box. Also dont forget to update the cpu firmware and the control module firmware if you have not already done it.

[beingaware]

Clarification requested,beingaware -

Just so we can warn others in the future...
1.The Original G9 Sensor & Original G9 Sensor cable can be used/plugged into the NEW AL-P CPU.

2.The Original G9 Sensor & new "Priority" Sensor cable CANNOT be used/plugged into the NEW AL-P CPU.

Is this what you are stating ?

1, yes it can be, works completely fine.

2, and that is correct, do that, and your G9 head goes bye bye.

[winterbrew]

I'm sure Deano will chip in at some point.

He purchased an ALP triple, and plugged in his ALG9RX dual heads without any issues

[BestRadarDetectors]

I'm sure Deano will chip in at some point.

He purchased an ALP triple, and plugged in his ALG9RX dual heads without any issues

Correct, But what beingaware did was connect his G9 Head to the ALP Head's wiring, They must have different pin-outs. If when he received it he connected the G9 Head with the wiring already on the G9 there would not have been any issue.

[winterbrew]

Cheers Tom - thought I'd missed something there !

[beingaware]

Correct, But what beingaware did was connect his G9 Head to the ALP Head's wiring, They have different pin-outs. If when he received it he connected the G9 Head with the wiring already on the G9 there would not have been any issue.

Could we throw in a firmware update to maybe auto detect that fail and turn off the port or auto sense and correct its self (like LAN ports do these days)?

[winterbrew]

So just to clarify, as I wanted to put three heads on the rear of my car, I was only supplied with two extensions, so the installer got another extension from his car, but we didn't need it.

As mine is a small hatchback, they only needed one of the 2.5m extensions that was supplied with the ALP.

Hence I have two extensions spare ;

1 bag labelled 'Extension Cable for AL Sensor length 2.5m'
1 bag labelled 'Extension Cable for AL G9 RX Sensor length 2.5m'

I take it from the findings then, that I shouldn't use the AL G9 RX extension with the ALP, or it might actually be OK if the pin assignments aren't crossed over from one end to the other ? (I'll check the pin outs tomorrow with a multi meter)

[beingaware]

So just to clarify, as I wanted to put three heads on the rear of my car, I was only supplied with two extensions, so the installer got another extension from his car, but we didn't need it.

As mine is a small hatchback, they only needed one of the 2.5m extensions that was supplied with the ALP.

Hence I have two extensions spare ;

1 bag labelled 'Extension Cable for AL Sensor length 2.5m'
1 bag labelled 'Extension Cable for AL G9 RX Sensor length 2.5m'

I take it from the findings then, that I shouldn't use the AL G9 RX extension with the ALP, or it might actually be OK if the pin assignments aren't crossed over from one end to the other ? (I'll check the pin outs tomorrow with a multi meter)

If the extension cable is for ALG9, make sure its only connected to a G9 head.
If its for ALP, then only use it with an ALP head.

[BestRadarDetectors]

Extension cables are usually just straight cords so there should not be an issue. You can check with an ohm meter to be sure.

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[deano]

I never changed any leads on mine I installed my G9 heads with the original wiring ...I never even removed the G9 cable from the heads as I had heatshrink sealing them... I knew if I did remove the heatshrink it would of been put on the one of the do lists and known me I would of forgotton to re heat shrink

thats a pretty expensive mistake though they should start to mention this in manual

the shop here in morley when paul was running the show did a similer thing to his jammers ....while he was bench testing some GF100s he plugged in some heads into a different jammer cpu ....they worked on the bench so we went out installed them on a car and shot with the ultrlyte the jammer alerted but would not jam turned out to be a fried part in the CPU

[L&R]

Do you check the inside fuse of the G9 box;

[dinkydi]

I never changed any leads on mine I installed my G9 heads with the original wiring ...I never even removed the G9 cable from the heads as I had heatshrink sealing them... I knew if I did remove the heatshrink it would of been put on the one of the do lists and known me I would of forgotton to re heat shrink

thats a pretty expensive mistake though they should start to mention this in manual

the shop here in morley when paul was running the show did a similer thing to his jammers ....while he was bench testing some GF100s he plugged in some heads into a different jammer cpu ....they worked on the bench so we went out installed them on a car and shot with the ultrlyte the jammer alerted but would not jam turned out to be a fried part in the CPU

manufacturers, may be could put a lable on there leads, like use only on /or with,

also asking a question BRD, mentioned earlier,ext leads are straight through , but the pin out could be different, so best beware using diff ext leads as well ?. also be good if a short small converter ext, to allow for easy switching between various makes , save a full car re/wire

[BestRadarDetectors]

manufacturers, may be could put a lable on there leads, like use only on /or with,

also asking a question BRD, mentioned earlier,ext leads are straight through , but the pin out could be different, so best beware using diff ext leads as well ?.

Straight through would be pin 1 goes to pin 1, Pin 2 goes to pin 2, Etc. All you are doing is extending the cable length so it should not make any difference. You can verify this with a meter, I dont have any old G9 stuff so I cant test it for you.

[dinkydi]

ok see what you mean, but small short converter ext if there were such a thing would save all the term changing and ohm's testing, and say change over becomes plug and play, as in my case change from li's to ALP, i think i briefly covered this with you before

[busta]

From what I am reading it is not a lead problem but just do not plug in different makes of heads to different CPU's ?

[dinkydi]

yep,agreed, i was just trying to make a change over more simple , with an adapter lead

[BestRadarDetectors]

From what I am reading it is not a lead problem but just do not plug in different makes of heads to different CPU's ?

That is a Given not to try to connect a Blinder or Laser Interceptor head to your CPU but the G9 Heads are fine to connect to the AL Priority just use the wires that are on the heads already. Don't mix the AL Priority wiring with the G9 heads.

[beingaware]

That is a Given not to try to connect a Blinder or Laser Interceptor head to your CPU but the G9 Heads are fine to connect to the AL Priority just use the wires that are on the heads already. Don't mix the AL Priority wiring with the G9 heads.

Maybe they need to put that in the manual.
I did read through it and could not find any mention re the G9 cabling.

I knew using other brands or older gen e.g. g8 = bad but there really needs to be mention of this.

Would be nice to see in the manual.
"Even though the ALP cpu is backwards compatable with the G9 heads, using the ALP cabling to connect to the G9 heads will result in failure of the head.

Because, I now have to buy a new head which I am slightly annoyed about...

[BestRadarDetectors]

Maybe they need to put that in the manual.
I did read through it and could not find any mention re the G9 cabling.

I knew using other brands or older gen e.g. g8 = bad but there really needs to be mention of this.

Would be nice to see in the manual.
"Even though the ALP cpu is backwards compatable with the G9 heads, using the ALP cabling to connect to the G9 heads will result in failure of the head.

Because, I now have to buy a new head which I am slightly annoyed about...

Of course I will mention it to them when I speak with them on Monday but you are the only one that so far used an AL Priority Sensor cable on an older G9 head. You should also take this issue up with your dealer that sold you the product. If it was one of our customers that had an issue we would have handled the situation in a way that you would have been very happy with. Don't give up contacting DGC if you purchased the system from him and seeing what he can do to help you.

[beingaware]

Of course I will mention it to them when I speak with them on Monday but you are the only one that so far used an AL Priority Sensor cable on an older G9 head. You should also take this issue up with your dealer that sold you the product. If it was one of our customers that had an issue we would have handled the situation in a way that you would have been very happy with. Don't give up contacting DGC if you purchased the system from him and seeing what he can do to help you.

Lets hope Tim gives me the same top notch service like BRD.
I am sure he will, he has never let me down in the past. :).

[deano]

tim was happy to swap out my cpu ..I could of done any thing submerged in water crossed over some wires added different heads etc ..

he never even questioned me

he did say though because its a new system on the maket and that my cpu was one of the first batches that has just been released.. he wants to know about faults within the system so they can address them sooner rather than later... he gave me a new CPU hot off the shelf

I took what he said so im guessing the newer CPUs may be a little different

my biggest fear is my sound system Im pushing at 150.4 DBs and im still building ...this shakes every thing even want to push out windows.. the vibrations of this may of rattled my cpu to bits .. I have had screws come out of RDs dash cams even the inside of enterior want to start tearing apart let alone welds on the body start to crack

give tim a call or email him see what he says

[deano]

From what I am reading it is not a lead problem but just do not plug in different makes of heads to different CPU's ?

but when it states in the manual heads are compatible ie G9 heads only

like the G9cpu stated that cant put G8 heads into the G9 cpu because of different voltages

in yet in the manual of the ALP states all G9 heads are compatible

unless he does not have the real G9 heads connected and using a copy brand ie TW G8/of the real G9

we really need to test the lead with metre should do a video on it

[BestRadarDetectors]

Lets hope Tim gives me the same top notch service like BRD.
I am sure he will, he has never let me down in the past. :).

Spoke with AntiLaser regarding your issue. They want to know if you checked the pins on the harness to make sure that one of the pins did not bend and cause a short because they should be wired the same as the AL Priority and using the wrong cable should not have caused an issue.

"We have not changed AL Connecting cables or Extension cables in the past four years so our old cables should work with new parts and vice versa."

Tom

[beingaware]

Spoke with AntiLaser regarding your issue. They want to know if you checked the pins on the harness to make sure that one of the pins did not bend and cause a short because they should be wired the same as the AL Priority and using the wrong cable should not have caused an issue.

"We have not changed AL Connecting cables or Extension cables in the past four years so our old cables should work with new parts and vice versa."

Tom

The wires look different between the ALP cable and my G9RX2 cable...
The colours etc.
The pins look fine.

I am just waiting for my mates to return my LI kit that I lent out, so I can send my unit back to DGC.

[BestRadarDetectors]

The wires look different between the ALP cable and my G9RX2 cable...
The colours etc.
The pins look fine.

I am just waiting for my mates to return my LI kit that I lent out, so I can send my unit back to DGC.

Did you have an original G9RX or one of those bogus Taiwan clones?

[beingaware]

Did you have an original G9RX or one of those bogus Taiwan clones?


Original I believe.

It was sold by DGC before the new owners.

[deano]

don't get caught tried to sell me a laser pro park when I was running the the real A.L G8... the laser pro park was a copy from the A.L G6 ...they did end up selling the real A.L eventually but not to sure when they started doing so

snap a couple of pics of the heads and cpu and box it came in for us ..ps what kind of stickering did it have on the heads

[beingaware]

Here is a photo of the G9 head vs the alp head.
I don't have the G9 cpu anymore as I killed it when testing.


https://photos-2.dropbox.com/t/0/AADFijfnuECV6XiLYxAuBs-96lM2rSh0K1nV5EWF1CEJ-g/12/176294999/jpeg/1024x768/3/1386813600/0/2/2013-12-07%2010.15.14.jpg/2nmOXjAfJzFOaUUlWiX2A_ba5L9_zzv1_ZX5N2qp91Y

[shanetrainST]

Here is a photo of the G9 head vs the alp head.
I don't have the G9 cpu anymore as I killed it when testing.


https://photos-2.dropbox.com/t/0/AADFijfnuECV6XiLYxAuBs-96lM2rSh0K1nV5EWF1CEJ-g/12/176294999/jpeg/1024x768/3/1386813600/0/2/2013-12-07%2010.15.14.jpg/2nmOXjAfJzFOaUUlWiX2A_ba5L9_zzv1_ZX5N2qp91Y

I would gladly take it off your hands if you have not already binned :)

[beingaware]

I would gladly take it off your hands if you have not already binned :)

Haha.
I attacked it afterwards.
Made it go sparky spark burny burn!
I may have shorted the fuse and then gave it about 40 amps on purpose after it was dead.
To be clear, that was the G9 cpu, not the ALP cpu lol.

[deano]

I couldn't view the pic came up with an error

as for the fuse inside the cpu I can take a pic of mine and show you its a tiny little thing small block fuse if the fuse has blown you can give the cpu 300 amps its not going to do any thing as the fuse has brokon the circuit

[deano]

I have some photos on photo bucket of the G9 cpu not exactly focusing on the fuse at that time.... but fuse is located beside the red wire on the right hand side of the wire a very small rectangle block ...I don't no the name for these fuses hopefully some one can name them all I know is there fu##ing small

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o582/deanoobaby/P9020005.jpg

[RedRocket]

https://photos-2.dropbox.com/t/0/AADFijfnuECV6XiLYxAuBs-96lM2rSh0K1nV5EWF1CEJ-g/12/176294999/jpeg/1024x768/3/1386813600/0/2/2013-12-07%2010.15.14.jpg/2nmOXjAfJzFOaUUlWiX2A_ba5L9_zzv1_ZX5N2qp91Y
This URL fails for me.

[dinkydi]

me to :ghost:

[beingaware]

I have some photos on photo bucket of the G9 cpu not exactly focusing on the fuse at that time.... but fuse is located beside the red wire on the right hand side of the wire a very small rectangle block ...I don't no the name for these fuses hopefully some one can name them all I know is there fu##ing small

http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o582/deanoobaby/P9020005.jpg


They usually have a crow bar circuit just after the amp fuse to protect them from over voltage.
The amp fuse can easily be bypassed ;)

Re the URL, will throw the picture directly up soon.

[beingaware]

325

ALG9 vs ALP head size :)

[RedRocket]

Quite a diff. !

[dinkydi]

the g9 looks similar to my old laser pro park

[beingaware]

the g9 looks similar to my old laser pro park

Head design didn't really change much through the series until ALP.

[Antilaser]

Head design didn't really change much through the series until ALP.

The G9 on the picture looks a lot like an unauthorized clone replica LaserElite aka LaserStar aka AntilaserTaiwan. Can you post a better closeup picture? Where did you get those sensors?

[shanetrainST]

The G9 on the picture looks a lot like an unauthorized clone replica LaserElite aka LaserStar aka AntilaserTaiwan. Can you post a better closeup picture? Where did you get those sensors? how do you tell? Is there anything that gives them away so we don't buy them in the future off eBay or something like that thinking they are legit? this information might help someone that has bought them thinking they are the real thing :)

[beingaware]

how do you tell? Is there anything that gives them away so we don't buy them in the future off eBay or something like that thinking they are legit? this information might help someone that has bought them thinking they are the real thing :)

Yeah.
How do we as the consumer tell if we have been cheated?
I would be pretty upset honestly.

[BestRadarDetectors]

how do you tell? Is there anything that gives them away so we don't buy them in the future off eBay or something like that thinking they are legit? this information might help someone that has bought them thinking they are the real thing :)

See this link: http://www.alg9.com/index.php?page=news#1
You can email them using the email at the bottom of the page with the serial information and they will confirm authenticity.

[beingaware]

See this link: http://www.alg9.com/index.php?page=news#1
You can email them using the email at the bottom of the page with the serial information and they will confirm authenticity.

Thanks Tom, always awesome service from BRD. :).