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BestRadarDetectors
10-24-2013, 02:15 PM
There is a lot of scattered information on the AL Priority so I will just keep one main post with all the information you could possible need. It will be a work in progress and I will keep adding to the main post over several edits.

Picture of the AL Priority:

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AL Release History : AntiLaser G8 (Generation 8, 2006); AntiLaser G9 (Generation 9, 2009); AntiLaser RX (Generation 10, 2010); AntiLaser RX2 (Generation 11, 2011); AntiLaser PRIORITY (Generation 12, 2013)

Advantages over previous AL models and competition:

• AL is the original successor to the Worlds' First laser based multipurpose parking sensor
• features the smallest sensors in its ultimate performance class
• superior laser detection powered by AL patented technology
• extreme resistance to engine noise and laser interferences
• holds the widest protection angle (up to ±15°H ±15°V)
• laser detection power (coverage) improved by 20% over previous RX2 model
• power of laser detection at least 40-100% greater than power of detection of any competitive product

AL Priority brings you Industry's First:

• Dual processor Design running at over 100 MHz
• User friendly internet upgrades and set-up via USB flash drive
• USB flash drive Theft protection Key
• 5 sensor connection with front and rear sensor discrimination
• Innovative rear & side sensor cable exit
• Laser cruise-control filtering sensor for factory LCC equipped cars
• Compatibility with many third party devices (Radar, GPS antennas)
• Advanced self-test function detects disconnection or malfunction
• Fully effective from 10V to 17V power supply

Some Competitor Feature Comparisons:

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Competitor Head Size Comparison

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Add On Modules Some already here and some under development

• AntiLaser ALP Connect – Wireless control via Smartphone w/Graphical Display & Voice Alerts (Available For Android & Apple)
• AntiLaser RG Modules - Radar Detection Integration with the following Radar Antenna's (Beltronics STi-R Plus , Escort 9500CI, Radenso HD+ and Multiple Net Radar Antennas)
• AntiLaser Hi-Fi ControlSet – HiFi voice communication module for adding voice alerts through external speaker
• AntiLaser GPS Antenna - GPS Antenna for defining speed limits for Laser & Radar
• AntiLaser Display - Graphic Display to make alerts easier to understand (Future Release)

US Confirmed Retail Prices

Single $499.95
Dual $749.95
Triple $999.95
Quad $1249.95
Five $1499.95

Options: (Retail Prices)

Net Radar Front Radar Add-On Package $499.95
Net Radar Front & Rear Radar Add-On Package $899.95
Beltronics Sti-R Antenna Add-On Package $499.95
Bluetooth Module (Apple Smartphone Connector) - $99.95
RG Module (Connects to Various External Remote Antennas) - $99.95
HI-FI Module (Voice Alerts w/ External Speaker) - $99.95
AL Display (Visual Display) - $ Not Yet Known (Future Product)

Depending on your ideal setup you might want some options but their might be different ways to achieve the same end result For Example if you have an Apple iPhone and you want a visual display and voice alerts you do not necessarily need the AL Display or HI-Fi Module because you can achieve both these functions using your iPhone with just the Bluetooth Module. The iPhone App with give an awesome display with voice alerts and also allow you to change your AL Priority settings. If you go this route you do not even need to install the regular controller because you can turn your AL Priority on and off with the iPhone app.

Retail Boxes... They are sold separately. So if you bought a Dual for example you would receive one CPU Box and 2 Sensor Boxes. It makes stocking items much easier for the dealers and we do not need to stock separate systems with different head counts.

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AL Priority will be more expensive than the competition but we will put together a list of over 30 reasons why they they are worth more....

Important Websites:

AL Priority Programming Page: http://www.alpriorityupdate.com
AL Priority USA Page: http://www.alpriorityusa.com

AL Priority Users Manual (http://www.alpriorityusa.com/assets/images/2013-06-ALP-UserGuide-web.pdf)

Important Notice: When you receive your AL Priority it will operate only as Parking Sensors, A Blinking Green LED means that you are only in Parking Mode. If you want to utilize the Laser Interference Notification and Laser Defense Notification you need to download the latest firmware from the AL Priority Update Website. After you update the firmware you can go to Setup and configure the advanced settings:

Setup ---> Enter
Region ---> N/S America or your specific region
Advanced Options ---> PDC + LID

This will display all advanced options. Once you make all your setting adjustments hit Save & Download, Put setup file on a USB Memory Stick and insert into your ALP for programming.

Frequent Q&A's:

Front or Rear - How to know where is the laser source that AL Priority has detected?
Until the HiFi Module or Smartphone app is available which will verbally inform you of the direction you can tell by the LED Color. The color of LED during laser alert shows you if detected laser source is in front (RED LED) or behind you (YELLOW LED). To have this working properly, front sensors must be plugged into the F socket, and rear sensors into R socket of your AL Priority Control Box

What type of a USB flash drive to use with the AL Priority?
You may use any USB flash drive as long as it is not corrupted and it is properly formatted to FAT32 or FAT16 (NTFS is not supported). Preferably, the USB flash drive should be cleared (emptied) before use.

How to know if your AL Priority system upgrade was successful?
Once you plug in the USB flash drive with a new firmware into the USB socket of your AL Priority Control Box, multicolor LED on the Control Set will start to blink in different colors. The upgrading will take around 60 seconds. It may take longer if the USB flash drive memory was not cleared of other contents. After the system upgrades to the new firmware it will restart. The ALP system will not start to upgrade if the file is corrupted, or if it is not named correctly, or if it contains present or older firmware version than one that has already been installed.

Which Apple Devices support the ALP Connect Bluetooth Module
Short answer is devices which support Bluetooth 4.0. ALP Connect Requires iOS 6.1 or Later. Compatible with iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPhone 5c, iPhone 5s, iPad Wi-Fi + Cellular (3rd Generation), iPad Wi-Fi + Cellular (4th generation), iPad mini Wi-Fi + Cellular, iPad Air WiFi + Cellular, and iPad mini with Retina display Wi-Fi + Cellular. The app is optimized for iPhone 5. The ALP Connect app will work on the current iPod's and standard iPad Mini but because they lack GPS there will not be any speed information displayed.

dinkydi
11-08-2013, 05:57 PM
if ALP stay ahead of the others in updates etc, then the extra cost will be small in areas where polis and dala are in op, here in OZ in QLD ,dala is setting up camp but not seen it in the wild, but i have encountered laser alerts on my plus , nothing on the li's, but seen nothing around, i didn't know the plus gave false alerts to laser, only thing i can think of was low sun may be

thesilverbullet
11-08-2013, 10:42 PM
thanks for the info but i need more answers

- can AL detect lidar and automute to prevent jtg? any product on market have this feature? or is everybody manual mute?
- so i can just buy an stir+ antenna and plug it into the r/g module? sweet! i would love to hang a stir antenna on the back bumper.
- can i run two r/g modules on the same AL control box?
- can i get away with one sensor in front and one in rear for a s2000 application?


Thanks...

BestRadarDetectors
11-09-2013, 01:44 AM
- can AL detect lidar and automute to prevent jtg? any product on market have this feature? or is everybody manual mute? (Yes, Default is 4 seconds)
- so i can just buy an stir+ antenna and plug it into the r/g module? sweet! i would love to hang a stir antenna on the back bumper. (Yes, Bundles will be available in a few weeks)
- can i run two r/g modules on the same AL control box? (No, Only one antenna)
- can i get away with one sensor in front and one in rear for a s2000 application? (Post photo's of the vehicle in the Advice on Placement thread)

dinkydi
11-16-2013, 03:54 PM
we have covered this before, and from that discussion i think you checked the pin outs on the li cable to see if they would interchange for fitting the alp, to help the change over to alp's, without the major cable re - routing, and that they were not interchange able, so just wondering if at some stage an adapter lead could be used ?

hitechrr
11-17-2013, 09:17 AM
I would sell the LI and just buy the ALP. The ALP head are so much easier to hide. You can't see it in my MX5 grill until you look for them. I am sorry I didn't order the 3rd head for the back. I hope I can get the same pricing on the head when I order the Bel head in a few weeks when it is ready for sale.

RedRocket
11-17-2013, 11:10 AM
^ - ONE Sensor in the rear will not be enough to protect you no matter how small your car.
Trust me!

admin
11-17-2013, 11:57 AM
we have covered this before, and from that discussion i think you checked the pin outs on the li cable to see if they would interchange for fitting the alp, to help the change over to alp's, without the major cable re - routing, and that they were not interchange able, so just wondering if at some stage an adapter lead could be used ?

You can cut off the RJ45 connector and crimp on a new one with the wire position adjustments if you must use the same wiring

dinkydi
11-17-2013, 03:09 PM
Thx, that's good to know much easier than routing new cable through the fire wall and the rear tail gate, Asuming the wire dia is close to the same in the Li , think I feel upgrade coming soon

admin
11-17-2013, 03:43 PM
Thx, that's good to know much easier than routing new cable through the fire wall and the rear tail gate, Asuming the wire dia is close to the same in the Li , think I feel upgrade coming soon

AL Priority cables are thinker and more insulated but they use the same Din Connector but they are wired differently. Should not be too difficult using a meter to trace the different pin-outs.

dinkydi
11-17-2013, 03:53 PM
Yep if the thickness of the Li cable will handle power ok ,also wil be able to fit in the front grill better on my q5, the Li are sitting just behind at the moment not good but did ok when we tested them just the angle is reduced

BestRadarDetectors
11-21-2013, 12:04 PM
Yep if the thickness of the Li cable will handle power ok ,also wil be able to fit in the front grill better on my q5, the Li are sitting just behind at the moment not good but did ok when we tested them just the angle is reduced

If the time comes and cutting the cables is something you really want to do I will get both cables and help you with the pin-out changes.

RigToFly01
11-22-2013, 08:08 PM
BRD, Is there any kind of time table for a release of the "add-ons"? For example I am very interested in the Graphics Display and the GPS antenna. Are we looking at weeks? or Months? or dare I even say... Years?

BestRadarDetectors
11-23-2013, 06:18 AM
BRD, Is there any kind of time table for a release of the "add-ons"? For example I am very interested in the Graphics Display and the GPS antenna. Are we looking at weeks? or Months? or dare I even say... Years?

Out of all the add-on's those two will be some of the last ones released. Radar Modules are done and are in final testing, Bluetooth module went under several changes to make the integration better and will be released in a few weeks. After that some new support for some newer guns (Will not discuss specifics) will be improved. GPS Module will not be an AntiLaser product, It will be a generic GPS Module and AntiLaser is testing several of them to find certain ones that work the best. Graphics Display unfortunately is at the end of the list and I dont have an ETA.

Considering we only released the AL Priority a few months ago there has been alot of growth already. I dont think any other company could come out and move any faster. They agree with my motto that its best to test properly and fix any bugs before releasing any product or module. We have found a few issues with the Bluetooth module and it had to be redesigned to make it better.

winterbrew
11-23-2013, 06:35 AM
Good news on the GPS module - being able to choose a couple of generic ones sounds very useful, and should keep costs down, and add some useful functionality.

I think the Stinger is currently the only defence system that you can set a minimum speed at which not to deploy jammers if travelling below the set speed.

Mirage
11-23-2013, 06:48 AM
There are a couple of really cool things that could come from some of these modules. One feature I can think of that would be excellent is if the GPS module could also interpret the speed limit and turn the ALP defense mode off when the speed is below that limit after receiving an initial alert. The of course recycle after a period of time. I know this wouldn't be perfect but with a little tweaking it could be quite effective. Of course nothing replaces knowing when and how to JTK.

BestRadarDetectors
11-23-2013, 07:29 AM
There are a couple of really cool things that could come from some of these modules. One feature I can think of that would be excellent is if the GPS module could also interpret the speed limit and turn the ALP defense mode off when the speed is below that limit after receiving an initial alert. The of course recycle after a period of time. I know this wouldn't be perfect but with a little tweaking it could be quite effective. Of course nothing replaces knowing when and how to JTK.



I think the Stinger is currently the only defence system that you can set a minimum speed at which not to deploy jammers if travelling below the set speed.

This is already part of the current firmware:

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Mirage
11-23-2013, 07:45 AM
This is already part of the current firmware

Almost. This is a user defined speed limit. I want the GPS to change this limit based on location. ie the posted PSL.

BestRadarDetectors
11-23-2013, 08:00 AM
Almost. This is a user defined speed limit. I want the GPS to change this limit based on location. ie the posted PSL.

That will be a challenge. Look at all the problems Escort Live has with accurate PSL's and the Max? It would be almost impossible to be able to rely on GPS for actual PSL data and in many times it could cause you a ticket if the PSL data is wrong and the Jammer does not fire because of it. I think that would be a bad idea and its much safer to manually set your limit where you feel safe.

Mirage
11-23-2013, 08:05 AM
That will be a challenge. Look at all the problems Escort Live has with accurate PSL's and the Max? It would be almost impossible to be able to rely on GPS for actual PSL data and in many times it could cause you a ticket if the PSL data is wrong and the Jammer does not fire because of it. I think that would be a bad idea and its much safer to manually set your limit where you feel safe.

Agree there are certain aspects that would not be 100% accurate, but the jammer should ALWAYS fire initially; however, I can see where it might a challenge determining how long to wait before turning off due to the GPS check.

BestRadarDetectors
11-23-2013, 08:09 AM
Agree there are certain aspects that would not be 100% accurate, but the jammer should ALWAYS fire initially; however, I can see where it might a challenge determining how long to wait before turning off due to the GPS check.

I would rather be alerted and know I am safe. Its not like the AL Priority gives off false alerts. I have not had one false alert yet with it. If there is a real trap even if I am below the speed I still would prefer to know about it.

Mirage
11-23-2013, 08:10 AM
I would rather be alerted and know I am safe. Its not like the AL Priority gives off false alerts. I have not had one false alert yet with it. If there is a real trap even if I am below the speed I still would prefer to know about it.

Agree. Interestingly enough I tried to get the ALP to false with my simulator and it wouldn't I'm impressed with the filtering seems to be far superior to any other product.

nano
11-23-2013, 11:24 AM
^ - ONE Sensor in the rear will not be enough to protect you no matter how small your car.
Trust me!
Normally I wouldn't disagree on such a statement, but after a lot of testing with the ALP I can tell you that I'm driving with a single sensor in the rear in height of the exhaust. Which sounds idiotic, is possible. We tried different scenarios (extreme angle, bridge shoot, 30m shooting in standstill,...) but were hardly able to get a PT with different guns (UltraLyte, TruCAM,...).

But maybe I was following a different target: A 100% invisible install, which was only possible with this mounting location.

Firemedic
11-23-2013, 12:19 PM
Almost. This is a user defined speed limit. I want the GPS to change this limit based on location. ie the posted PSL.

I wanted this as well UNTIL I was traveling with a friend to Ohio in his car with a Sti R . We entered a construction zone below what would be the regular PSL. Because it was under construction the PSL was much lower. The RD did not alert and he was tagged. He changed his settings and never had a problem again.
Just something to think about.

RigToFly01
11-23-2013, 01:39 PM
If I order the bluetooth I get all the benefits of Graphic display on my iphone. correct? Will the iphone software work on a older iphone such as the 3 series? That way you could get an older model on ebay or something and have it strictly dedicated to the ALP. I have come to count on WAZE for head's up on traffic and LEO's (<--- look at me using the slang! Still a n00b!) :)

Yellowcab
11-23-2013, 03:54 PM
Normally I wouldn't disagree on such a statement, but after a lot of testing with the ALP I can tell you that I'm driving with a single sensor in the rear in height of the exhaust. Which sounds idiotic, is possible. We tried different scenarios (extreme angle, bridge shoot, 30m shooting in standstill,...) but were hardly able to get a PT with different guns (UltraLyte, TruCAM,...).

But maybe I was following a different target: A 100% invisible install, which was only possible with this mounting location.

Radarrob, myself, Redrocket and Tom did single head testing on the rear of a vehicle. We used every handheld LIDAR a a available in the US with the exception of the Laser Atlanta LIDARs. The performance was not acceptable to me of any of the jammers. My computer the has all of the data is being repaired. When I get it back I will post the results.

RedRocket
11-23-2013, 05:36 PM
Normally I wouldn't disagree on such a statement, but after a lot of testing with the ALP I can tell you that I'm driving with a single sensor in the rear in height of the exhaust. Which sounds idiotic, is possible. We tried different scenarios (extreme angle, bridge shoot, 30m shooting in standstill,...) but were hardly able to get a PT with different guns (UltraLyte, TruCAM,...).

But maybe I was following a different target: A 100% invisible install, which was only possible with this mounting location.
You can see what type/model car was used for ONE Sensor "Rear" mounted against "Priority","HP-905" & LI8.9 at this URL:
http://www.raletc.org/2013_10_01_archive.html

Scroll down page to - "Wednesday OCT.23,2013"
At bottom of page are some IR output pattern videos of all 3 jammer Models,too.

Yellowcab
11-23-2013, 05:42 PM
Single head test results.

http://www.raletc.org/2013/10/raletc-single-head-jammer-test.html?m=1

RigToFly01
11-26-2013, 07:03 PM
I just did some investigating today in my car and have decided to add 2 sensors to the rear. I scoped out the cable route and have placement ready. My question are as follows.
The ALP website states that there is (5M) of length on the sensor. that should equate to 16' ? Is that correct? If not could you tell me how much length is on it. So I can decide if I need the jumpers.
Are there any coupons or codes to help in the price?

BestRadarDetectors
11-26-2013, 07:37 PM
I just did some investigating today in my car and have decided to add 2 sensors to the rear. I scoped out the cable route and have placement ready. My question are as follows.
The ALP website states that there is (5M) of length on the sensor. that should equate to 16' ? Is that correct? If not could you tell me how much length is on it. So I can decide if I need the jumpers.
Are there any coupons or codes to help in the price?

You are correct in the size and 5M is slightly over 16ft. I will PM you order information.

kasher1979
12-05-2013, 11:32 AM
I would rather be alerted and know I am safe. Its not like the AL Priority gives off false alerts. I have not had one false alert yet with it. If there is a real trap even if I am below the speed I still would prefer to know about it.

My thinking exactly. I am not a major speeder, but my position is if I have capability to know what is going on around me I want to know.

winterbrew
12-07-2013, 07:20 PM
Manuals are up for the modules ;

http://www.alpriority.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/alp-gps-plugin-web.pdf

http://www.alpriority.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/BTmoduleManual-web2013.12.06..pdf

dinkydi
12-07-2013, 07:28 PM
nice touch :encouragement:

beingaware
12-07-2013, 07:40 PM
One option that I would like to have is the rearm time.
The 1 minute wait is rather annoying.
Maybe 15 seconds would be an optional option?
Also, can us aussies have the unlimited option for testing?

I am making some LI vs ALP videos next weekend and it would be most useful...

dinkydi
12-07-2013, 07:52 PM
looking forward to seeing em

BestRadarDetectors
12-07-2013, 08:10 PM
One option that I would like to have is the rearm time.
The 1 minute wait is rather annoying.
Maybe 15 seconds would be an optional option?
Also, can us aussies have the unlimited option for testing?

I am making some LI vs ALP videos next weekend and it would be most useful...

The distributor who is responsible for your Country requested the unlimited option not be allowed in Australia. So far I have allowed it in the US because just about everyone that buys one is informed how to use it properly. If you are using standard guns also used in the US you can use the US Settings and use the unlimited option for testing.

We have not had any complaints about the 60 second restart but if it becomes an issue we can look at it in the future.

deano
12-08-2013, 06:50 PM
me and winter set our CPUs in American mode this gave us the unlimited time for testing only it worked ..but back then we didn't have to punch in our serial numbers I haven't tried since changing my cpu for testing unlimited time

Tman
12-08-2013, 10:21 PM
A quick question :

will the Alp alert to the Osprey , i dont know his prf though ,
http://www.opticsplanet.com/osprey-laser-rangefinder-7x-600-yard-range-with-speed-finder-comet-emc4-by-aimshot.html

The Li alerts by ''unknown gun''.

BestRadarDetectors
12-08-2013, 10:39 PM
A quick question :

will the Alp alert to the Osprey , i dont know his prf though ,
http://www.opticsplanet.com/osprey-laser-rangefinder-7x-600-yard-range-with-speed-finder-comet-emc4-by-aimshot.html

The Li alerts by ''unknown gun''.

Never heard of it before? Do you have one or have access to one? A quick recording of it and we can verify support or add it if necessary..

Tman
12-09-2013, 10:20 AM
Never heard of it before? Do you have one or have access to one? A quick recording of it and we can verify support or add it if necessary..

I own one , bought it time ago from optics planet ...but how to record it , i live quite far from you.

BestRadarDetectors
12-09-2013, 10:29 AM
I own one , bought it time ago from optics planet ...but how to record it , i live quite far from you.

Do you have anyone with an ALP close by? Anyone with an ALP can record it. If not can you send it to me? I will pay shipping both ways and we will have it added to the next update.

Tman
12-09-2013, 12:14 PM
Do you have anyone with an ALP close by? Anyone with an ALP can record it. If not can you send it to me? I will pay shipping both ways and we will have it added to the next update.

Thanks for the offer , but it will be next year .
You know i live north of the border ....i hate customs !
Will see which way we will do it....

BestRadarDetectors
12-09-2013, 05:41 PM
Thanks for the offer , but it will be next year .
You know i live north of the border ....i hate customs !
Will see which way we will do it....

Has one of these ever been used in Law Enforcement? I cant find any details on these ever being use for enforcement and it looks like demand was so low on these that they were selling at auction for $199 back in 2005

http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6495711

Tom

Tman
12-09-2013, 06:15 PM
Has one of these ever been used in Law Enforcement? I cant find any details on these ever being use for enforcement and it looks like demand was so low on these that they were selling at auction for $199 back in 2005

http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6495711



Tom

You are right , it is/was not use for enforcement , i bought for testing my set up because
a real leo gun was too expensive / nobody around had/has real gun.

dinkydi
12-31-2013, 04:23 PM
can you still use detector tools for updates to the plus, if the plus is connected to the ALP system modules

dinkydi
01-02-2014, 04:34 PM
try and rephrase , when the sti-r plus is linked into the ALP , by just using the plus antenna, how do you use detector tools for any upgrade, without the plus ecu ?

BestRadarDetectors
01-02-2014, 04:53 PM
try and rephrase , when the sti-r plus is linked into the ALP , by just using the plus antenna, how do you use detector tools for any upgrade, without the plus ecu ?

There is no way to connect your Sti-R Plus antenna to Escort Detector tools without having a Beltronics CPU. There is no reason you would need to update the receiver unless there was some sort of major radar update and if that was the case you would have to find someone with an Sti-R Plus to update it for you by connecting it to their system and running an update.

dinkydi
01-02-2014, 06:17 PM
thx but here on oz its a noo nooo running rd and it can be deactivated pressing vol and sens buttons for five secs and can only be activated with comp and ecu, also to down load police verification, info on first page in the bel manual on congratulation page,

so thats ok just keep the ucu etc

BestRadarDetectors
01-02-2014, 06:30 PM
thx but here on oz its a noo nooo running rd and it can be deactivated pressing vol and sens buttons for five secs and can only be activated with comp and ecu, also to down load police verification, info on first page in the bel manual on congratulation page,

so thats ok just keep the ucu etc

The Sti-R Plus is a stealth antenna so its not detectable and if mounted discreetly it will go unnoticed. When you integrate two products you can never get the full features of both systems and its a give and take proposition. You always have the option to run both systems separately or integrate them and control everything from one controller but give up some features. You need to weigh your options and budget to see which method is best for you. For me I love the integration and using the ALP Connect product puts everything I need in one to use app. I do miss the auto mute but I am sure that will come with a future update and once the GPS module is done you can also use the Savvy like muting features under a pre-set limit which will be great for city use.

dinkydi
01-02-2014, 06:51 PM
cheers i relize that know, so when the alp is in parking mode does the plus go to sleep as well (deactivated)

BestRadarDetectors
01-02-2014, 07:16 PM
cheers i relize that know, so when the alp is in parking mode does the plus go to sleep as well (deactivated)

ALP is 100% in Parking Mode all the time and it never sleeps and will immediately respond to any radar and laser alert all the time.

dinkydi
01-02-2014, 08:05 PM
ok thx may have to hide the power switch :D

shanetrainST
01-03-2014, 09:56 AM
its nice to have radar alerts :)
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dinkydi
01-03-2014, 02:52 PM
like the display's showing gun types and k, ka's all on one screen, thats an interesting one the pik ka 33.9, i get quite a few 33,5, but never been fully sure of the source, im still thinking there,s leo hanging around here in qld with that ka , cobra has been suggested

RigToFly01
01-03-2014, 06:40 PM
like the display's showing gun types and k, ka's all on one screen, thats an interesting one the pik ka 33.9, i get quite a few 33,5, but never been fully sure of the source, im still thinking there,s leo hanging around here in qld with that ka , cobra has been suggested

Imagine how nice it will be, if they can add the GPS coordinates to that.

dinkydi
01-03-2014, 07:12 PM
who knows , alp has brought cm,s into the 21st century :glee:

BestRadarDetectors
01-03-2014, 09:53 PM
Imagine how nice it will be, if they can add the GPS coordinates to that.

Keep the ideas flowing... The AL Priority was built based on the customers suggestions.

Youthan
01-04-2014, 03:26 AM
A quick question :

will the Alp alert to the Osprey , i dont know his prf though ,
http://www.opticsplanet.com/osprey-laser-rangefinder-7x-600-yard-range-with-speed-finder-comet-emc4-by-aimshot.html

The Li alerts by ''unknown gun''.

Antilaser never used such a method to try to jam, something that don't know. LI do/has this ability. It's not to wise to do it because of possibility to show a jammed code on a gun, like E-07 or E-48. I do remember like LI was selling this product in my country and couldn't to jam properly Traffipatrol XR. The E-48 code was shown at that time. Antilaser newer did something like this, so that's why we never saw such a option to try to jam some unknown gun.

But there is some small chance to know that there is some new source of laser out there. I use in G9 warning about interference from ACC like Volvo and Infinity. It also works for a new Mazda. This option is selectable in G9 and do not cause a jamming to this source. It only briefly sounds that such a interference occur. What is fun I have one remote control that also sets off my V1 and then G9 also sounds about that interference.

Tom. I'm curious if ALP also have this option to inform about interference ?

shanetrainST
01-06-2014, 08:52 PM
Keep the ideas flowing... The AL Priority was built based on the customers suggestions.

I have a few suggestions Tom.

ALP hardware
1-User defined port config, so all head can be front or rear
2-User defined Re-arm /defense mode/ reset time (60seconds @the moment)
3-IR interference check/alarm on start-up
4-Abilty to Run all ALG9rx Head, without the need for 1 ALP head

ALPconnect
1-Firmware updates via Iphone + Firmware update availability
2-Landscape mode
3-Ability to change setting live from Iphone
4-Recent alarms moved to its own separate page + ability to pass-lock it with 4 digits with master key
5-Simple alarm display on main-screen to display live alarms, then disappear
7-Radar Frequency displayed in medium text on main screen, then disappear
8-Bluetooth connection graph changes color to match DB strength (red is bad, green is good) rather than a solid color
10-Detailed descriptions of the error codes, that appear in recent alarms
11-A different color car for when the ALP is in warm up mode/first power on
12-Countdown Reset timer to appear when waiting to go into defense mode
13-In built Electronic Manual into ALP connect
14-ALP record mode from ALPconnect, direct send to AL
15-Abiltiy to connect two ALP cpu's to ALPconnect for people that run 2 systems and define front and rear
16-Geotag of alarms, export feature to gmaps
17-Page dedicated for sensor checking


Long shot
Voice activated kill mode for Iphone
Android platform :)
Car Voltage Displayed on main screen

dinkydi
01-07-2014, 03:08 PM
nice comprehensive list be good if all that came along,

also i have the beltronics lead with the press button on to kill false alerts on k band which plugs straight into my magnum, is there any way to link this into the alp plus, by changing the wiring around to add in between the plus and the the module so making it possible to manuallly kill the k alerts

BestRadarDetectors
01-07-2014, 03:24 PM
nice comprehensive list be good if all that came along,

also i have the beltronics lead with the press button on to kill false alerts on k band which plugs straight into my magnum, is there any way to link this into the alp plus, by changing the wiring around to add in between the plus and the the module so making it possible to manuallly kill the k alerts

No, A smartcord mute alert will not work with installed detectors because they do not operate the same as a windshield mounted unit. Just press the mute button the ALP Controller or the Smartphone app if you want to quickly mute a radar alert.

RigToFly01
01-07-2014, 06:47 PM
Great list.



7-Radar Frequency displayed in medium text on main screen, then disappear

I would like a Recent Alarm Page for the Radar alerts as well. ( I don't care if you can lock it or not )


16-Geotag of alarms, export feature to gmaps

Same thing for Radar Alerts.

18. With a front and rear sensor setup, in the Recent Alarm Page, it would tell if you got hit in the front sensors or the rear sensors. This would be very helpful for Poliscan Alerts.

Qui-Gon
01-12-2014, 06:23 PM
Not sure if this has been asked yet (forgive me in advance)...

I have a LI Quad setup with extension cables for my rear heads. The question is...can I use those extension cables with the ALP heads should I choose to replace my LI Quad with a ALP Quad?

dinkydi
01-12-2014, 06:39 PM
from what i have learned, the pin outs are different and the wire dia,which i dont think will be a problem, if u correct the pin outs in new plugs, because of all the major refitting new cables, i did suggest like a short conversion lead if it was a possible

radargeek
01-12-2014, 07:43 PM
I'm new here, though not to CMs, but came here to learn more about the ALP in terms of how it can be integrated with external equipment (i.e. something created by a 3rd party, not ALP's accessories alone).

For example, if an external device can "know" when the ALP is jamming and if there's a way for such device to kill jamming (JTK). Does the radio mute activate only when jamming? Does it give any indication as to when jamming starts and ends? Does it activate during other situations, such as errors or parking sensing? Is there any kind of serial interface that is available for use or is it strictly a proprietary interface? Laser Interceptor in particular has a serial port which can provide this information including what gun is being jammed and for how long. I'm wondering if ALP has something similar. Worst case, the radio mute will work if it mainly activates during jamming, and JTK can always be done by cutting power. I'm just wondering what else is available for I/O.

Mirage
01-12-2014, 07:53 PM
I'm new here, though not to CMs, but came here to learn more about the ALP in terms of how it can be integrated with external equipment (i.e. something created by a 3rd party, not ALP's accessories alone).

For example, if an external device can "know" when the ALP is jamming and if there's a way for such device to kill jamming (JTK). Does the radio mute activate only when jamming? Does it give any indication as to when jamming starts and ends? Does it activate during other situations, such as errors or parking sensing? Is there any kind of serial interface that is available for use or is it strictly a proprietary interface? Laser Interceptor in particular has a serial port which can provide this information including what gun is being jammed and for how long. I'm wondering if ALP has something similar. Worst case, the radio mute will work if it mainly activates during jamming, and JTK can always be done by cutting power. I'm just wondering what else is available for I/O.

The wire you're interested in is the relay wire. It will activate when jamming, but the mute does too. You can also use the LED, but it will flash when being targeted. (if you have it in pro mode). Bluetooth would be the way to go if you wanted to completely interface with the CPU. One nice feature they implemented in the ALPConnect app is the ability to JTK and continue receiving the alerts. You just tap the car on the screen and it will change from Blue to Yellow indicating it is in detection only mode. Blue is defense mode.

radargeek
01-12-2014, 08:05 PM
Does this relay wire put out a voltage or does it ground like the mute wire?

If the bluetooth module can JTK, so should any other device that can connect to the CPU in the same manner as the bluetooth module, correct? Bluetooth is great if you have a smartphone, but not everyone does.

Mirage
01-12-2014, 08:36 PM
Does this relay wire put out a voltage or does it ground like the mute wire?

I believe its ground triggered. Tom may know I haven't tested it yet.

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deano
01-12-2014, 08:43 PM
the wire should never have voltage.... on an alert the wire switches to a ground

JohnBoy
01-13-2014, 12:47 PM
You could easily add a JTK switch, buy purchasing a toggle switch at the local auto-parts store. Install it in the 12volt loop from the fuse to the CPU. Switch is on, unit is on. Switch to off, the whole thing is off.

Examples of switches here (http://www.ebay.com/bhp/12v-led-switch)

radargeek
01-15-2014, 08:42 AM
You could easily add a JTK switch, buy purchasing a toggle switch at the local auto-parts store. Install it in the 12volt loop from the fuse to the CPU. Switch is on, unit is on. Switch to off, the whole thing is off.

Examples of switches here (http://www.ebay.com/bhp/12v-led-switch)Oh yeah, a switch will work, but if the ALP has a way to hit a button to kill jamming but still alert if being hit with lidar, that's even better.

So, that's my next question: can the mute button be used to JTK? I'm sure it's mentioned somewhere but I haven't found it yet, and the search here doesn't work on 3-letter words like JTK. Sounds like the bluetooth module and iPhone app can JTK, but I don't have an iPhone, or any smart phone for that matter. Plus I wouldn't want to rely on that for JTKing, what if the bluetooth connection drops or the app hangs, or my wife is playing Angry Birds on it in the passenger seat?

BestRadarDetectors
01-15-2014, 08:49 AM
Oh yeah, a switch will work, but if the ALP has a way to hit a button to kill jamming but still alert if being hit with lidar, that's even better.

So, that's my next question: can the mute button be used to JTK? I'm sure it's mentioned somewhere but I haven't found it yet, and the search here doesn't work on 3-letter words like JTK. Sounds like the bluetooth module and iPhone app can JTK, but I don't have an iPhone, or any smart phone for that matter. Plus I wouldn't want to rely on that for JTKing, what if the bluetooth connection drops or the app hangs, or my wife is playing Angry Birds on it in the passenger seat?

Have not used the regular controller for some time but will test later the mute functionality using the control module. With the ALP Connect app and LID set to unlimited if you hit the mute button (Tap car on screen) it will Kill immediately, If you press it again it will un-mute and you can still hear the alert until they stop shooting and then it will instantly go back in defense mode.

radargeek
01-15-2014, 08:54 AM
If you press it again it will un-mute and you can still hear the alert until they stop shooting and then it will instantly go back in defense mode.Don't know if I like that part... a delay before returning to defense mode is better, in case they shoot you again, with the option of overriding the delay and returning to defense mode by hitting the button again.

I guess the "perfect" way to do it would be, while jamming: first press kills but keeps alerting; 2nd press mutes the alert; 3rd press unmutes and returns to defense mode. System automatically returns to defense mode after a pre-set delay if you don't do the 3rd press.

Another question while I'm here: I read that parking mode is always active, no matter what? So if I'm up to someone's bumper in stopped traffic, the ALP will be beeping? Also, does the parking mode pulses set off any RDs? I know my STiR+ alerts to laser if I put my LI in park assist mode.

BestRadarDetectors
01-15-2014, 09:01 AM
Don't know if I like that part... a delay before returning to defense mode is better, in case they shoot you again, with the option of overriding the delay and returning to defense mode by hitting the button again.

I guess the "perfect" way to do it would be, while jamming: first press kills but keeps alerting; 2nd press mutes the alert; 3rd press unmutes and returns to defense mode. System automatically returns to defense mode after a pre-set delay if you don't do the 3rd press.

Another question while I'm here: I read that parking mode is always active, no matter what? So if I'm up to someone's bumper in stopped traffic, the ALP will be beeping? Also, does the parking mode pulses set off any RDs? I know my STiR+ alerts to laser if I put my LI in park assist mode.

We cant satisfy everyone but we have adjusted these options to satisfy the majority of requests. You can set LID to jam for a set amount of time lets say 4 seconds and after the 4 seconds it will reset in 60 seconds or you can set to Unlimited and shut off using your own discretion when you want by pressing the mute icon. We are looking into maybe giving a setting to adjust the rearm time to something other than 60 seconds in the future.

radargeek
01-15-2014, 10:22 AM
Is the Hi-Fi module available yet?

BestRadarDetectors
01-15-2014, 10:59 AM
Is the Hi-Fi module available yet?

When its available we will post the details. New ALP Connection app is coming very soon and after that is done and all bugs have been worked out they will move on to finishing the HiFi module.

RedRocket
01-15-2014, 11:43 AM
Is the Hi-Fi module available yet?
The que is patiently waiting...

Antilaser
01-15-2014, 01:54 PM
Oh yeah, a switch will work, but if the ALP has a way to hit a button to kill jamming but still alert if being hit with lidar, that's even better.

So, that's my next question: can the mute button be used to JTK? I'm sure it's mentioned somewhere but I haven't found it yet, and the search here doesn't work on 3-letter words like JTK. Sounds like the bluetooth module and iPhone app can JTK, but I don't have an iPhone, or any smart phone for that matter. Plus I wouldn't want to rely on that for JTKing, what if the bluetooth connection drops or the app hangs, or my wife is playing Angry Birds on it in the passenger seat?


The ALP wired Control Set button (Both Buttons!) Does work as JTK button - allready. Just press any button while in Laser Alert and you get instant JTK+audio mute for the remainder of the alert, just like the screen-tap on ALPConnect app.

Antilaser
01-15-2014, 01:55 PM
Is the Hi-Fi module available yet?

This module is on AL short list.

radargeek
01-15-2014, 02:36 PM
The ALP wired Control Set button (Both Buttons!) Does work as JTK button - allready. Just press any button while in Laser Alert and you get instant JTK+audio mute for the remainder of the alert, just like the screen-tap on ALPConnect app.On a similar vein, will the pinout of the control port (C socket) and any serial protocol be made available for 3rd parties to create accessories that can interface to the ALP? I'm wondering how feasible it is to wire up a separate JTK/mute button, if it can be done just by tapping the appropriate pins on the RJ45 or whatever it is, or does that information have to be transmitted serially?

Maybe I should just buy one and play with it....

Antilaser
01-16-2014, 03:10 AM
... I'm wondering how feasible it is to wire up a separate JTK/mute button, if it can be done just by tapping the appropriate pins on the RJ45 or whatever it is, or does that information have to be transmitted serially?...

Actually there already exists a variant of AL Control Set that is external buttons Ready. As many European installers prefer such an option for more discrete installs.
External buttons can do JTK just as the original buttons can.

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shanetrainST
01-16-2014, 05:33 AM
Is there any change of A pin-out diagram, please AL.

dinkydi
01-16-2014, 05:29 PM
do you need a gps for the plus to work there is a opening for one on the rg module, if not what do need a gps for
can i use my plus gps if i fit the larger connecter

BestRadarDetectors
01-16-2014, 05:36 PM
do you need a gps for the plus to work there is a opening for one on the rg module, if not what do need a gps for
can i use my plus gps if i fit the larger connecter

No, The GPS will be used for the Savvy Type ignoring under pre-set speed limits. Let say you dont want to Jam or be alerted for alerts while you are traveling 25MPH or less or so.

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dinkydi
01-16-2014, 05:59 PM
No, The GPS will be used for the Savvy Type ignoring under pre-set speed limits. Let say you dont want to Jam or be alerted for alerts while you are traveling 25MPH or less or so.

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ok thanks no need just using the plus all ready set the settings to zero

RigToFly01
01-16-2014, 06:31 PM
Don't know if I like that part... a delay before returning to defense mode is better, in case they shoot you again, with the option of overriding the delay and returning to defense mode by hitting the button again.

I guess the "perfect" way to do it would be, while jamming: first press kills but keeps alerting; 2nd press mutes the alert; 3rd press unmutes and returns to defense mode. System automatically returns to defense mode after a pre-set delay if you don't do the 3rd press.

Another question while I'm here: I read that parking mode is always active, no matter what? So if I'm up to someone's bumper in stopped traffic, the ALP will be beeping? Also, does the parking mode pulses set off any RDs? I know my STiR+ alerts to laser if I put my LI in park assist mode.

For me, the parking mode is always active. When I am sitting in bumper to bumper traffic in NYC it alerts me when I am right on somebody's ass.

RedRocket
01-16-2014, 07:46 PM
For me, the parking mode is always active. When I am sitting in bumper to bumper traffic in NYC it alerts me when I am right on somebody's ass.
(hahaha),your last...
Pardon me- but...ahhh, just how far up his a$$ were you ? :nevreness:
(what distance is your "set-point" at? - 1 ft?)

beingaware
01-17-2014, 09:47 AM
The ALP wired Control Set button (Both Buttons!) Does work as JTK button - allready. Just press any button while in Laser Alert and you get instant JTK+audio mute for the remainder of the alert, just like the screen-tap on ALPConnect app.

Seriously?
If any of the buttons are pressed while the ALP is jamming, it will JTK?
Looks like the tripod and duct tape are coming out tomorrow to test this :).

Salty
01-17-2014, 09:52 AM
Seriously?
If any of the buttons are pressed while the ALP is jamming, it will JTK?
Looks like the tripod and duct tape are coming out tomorrow to test this :).

A great feature for sure. Instead of trying to fine one specific button, being able to hit any button to turn off will be much easier.

beingaware
01-17-2014, 10:46 AM
A great feature for sure. Instead of trying to fine one specific button, being able to hit any button to turn off will be much easier.

Yeah it is.
I always freak out when it goes off and I have to kill it. I end up fully shutting it down...

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shanetrainST
02-15-2014, 07:03 AM
Is it possible to run all 5 heads up front, will they work together? Or will it just produce PT's and jam codes?

BestRadarDetectors
02-15-2014, 07:47 AM
Is it possible to run all 5 heads up front, will they work together? Or will it just produce PT's and jam codes?

I have not tested 5 heads at once but Beingaware tested heads connected to both the front and rear and he mentioned they all fired back in sync. We are also looking into in the future trying to see if we can get each port configured through setup so you can designate front or rear for each port.

beingaware
02-15-2014, 05:18 PM
St, watch my test runs. All 5 heads are reacting and jamming the LTI

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deano
02-15-2014, 06:40 PM
me and winter tested my rear 5 heads with the ultrlyte/pl2and stalker .....the pl2 and stalker both seen PTs in the exact place the ultralyte missed this week point..... at that time i had rear ports for left side and front ports for right side....so then i swapped some ports around and mixed them all up ...

the pl2 and stalker did not see PT after that

Yellowcab
02-15-2014, 06:52 PM
I believe the rear on front ports on the ALP work independently. If this is true then they can interfere with each other.

deano
02-15-2014, 11:01 PM
NO because the cpu infact any laser jammer cpu can only fire one pulse rate at one given time ....other wise we would be able to do to things at once

radargeek
03-12-2014, 04:16 PM
Is there a complete "how-to" list somewhere on all the functions available from the standard control set buttons? The manual only covers the parking aid features and some of the setup options.

For example, how to switch between defense and detection mode from the control set, or how to turn on recording mode.

BestRadarDetectors
03-12-2014, 04:23 PM
I believe the rear on front ports on the ALP work independently. If this is true then they can interfere with each other.

Originally that was the design but with the need to have more heads in the front such as a Quad configuration or some even have all 5 heads in the rear for some crazy Poliscan protection if both the front and rear heads see a hit they will all fire back simultaneously. I believe if only the rear heads or only the front heads are fired on separately only the one side will react. This is why if you put a quad configuration you should split for example F1 + R1 = Right Side and F2 + R2 for the Left side this way both heads will see the beam and all will fire back.

BestRadarDetectors
03-12-2014, 04:28 PM
Is there a complete "how-to" list somewhere on all the functions available from the standard control set buttons? The manual only covers the parking aid features and some of the setup options.

For example, how to switch between defense and detection mode from the control set, or how to turn on recording mode.

Only parking functions are controlled through the control set. All advanced defense modes are set from the setup file created on the ALP Setup site at http://www.alpupdate.com
Many users use a few different color coded USB memory sticks with different programming so they can easily pop one in and within a second or two the ALP will switch all setup options to the settings on the inserted memory stick..

See this Thread (http://radarandlaserforum.com/showthread.php/3445-Different-programs) - If you are however hit with Laser any button on the control set if pressed will instantly kill defense.

radargeek
03-12-2014, 04:46 PM
So there's no way to KBJ (Kill Before Jam) if you see the LEO before being shot, short of plugging in a USB drive or powering down the ALP? Can you do it with ALP Connect?

I suppose in that situation you could just keep your finger over the button and as soon as it starts alerting, press it to JTK immediately.

Sounds like a suggestion for a future firmware update, to allow toggling between modes at the press of a button.

BestRadarDetectors
03-12-2014, 04:52 PM
So there's no way to KBJ (Kill Before Jam) if you see the LEO before being shot, short of plugging in a USB drive or powering down the ALP? Can you do it with ALP Connect?

I suppose in that situation you could just keep your finger over the button and as soon as it starts alerting, press it to JTK immediately.

Sounds like a suggestion for a future firmware update, to allow toggling between modes at the press of a button.

I could not see any need to kill your device if its not Jamming. What would be the point? If you are hit you press the button and kill it or set it to automatically kill at 3-4 seconds.
If you dont want the jammer operating press the power button and turn it off and turn it back on when you want to use it.

radargeek
03-12-2014, 05:03 PM
I could not see any need to kill your device if its not Jamming. What would be the point?To avoid jamming when you don't have to, say if you see the LEO and slowed before being shot. And to get confirmation of the shot and a gun ID.

Anyway, you answered the question. The easiest/quickest way is to just be ready and hit the button immediately to JTK.

Tman
03-12-2014, 06:17 PM
To avoid jamming when you don't have to, say if you see the LEO and slowed before being shot. And to get confirmation of the shot and a gun ID.

Anyway, you answered the question. The easiest/quickest way is to just be ready and hit the button immediately to JTK.

I know what you mean , the Li has a switch to pass from jam to listen only , i often use it and
it is very usefull to gather information.

Here an example , you hear the sound when i switch from jamable to listen @ 14
i had a feeling cop was there , so i was 47\50 , no need to jtk ...safer...dont awake
local cops, as i pass there 4 times a day .

I do wish Alp implement such mechanical switch , unless it is already in existence
but i am not aware of.

4=Lti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxIJZM7Sv2k

hththt
03-18-2014, 10:01 PM
Hi,

I just got the ALP unit today. I can't seem to get out of Parking mode, the LED always blinks green. I already update the firmware for the CPU box and the control unit. I also put went to the website and customized a Setup file and have the ALP unit download the Setup file (PDC & LID chosen). But my unit will not go into laser defense (blue) mode, it only stays in parking (green) mode.

Also, how does one work with the bluetooth module? When I plugged it in place of the control unit and gave power to the CPU, nothing turned on.

I wish there was some sort of manual somewhere for these options/modules.

Thanks!

wolfpacal
03-18-2014, 10:16 PM
After you did the firmware update, did you remember to do a factory reset? If I remember correctly you load the first file and then do a factory reset. From there you can load the other two files. BRD, RR or Mirage, does that sound right?

BestRadarDetectors
03-18-2014, 10:19 PM
Hi,

I just got the ALP unit today. I can't seem to get out of Parking mode, the LED always blinks green. I already update the firmware for the CPU box and the control unit. I also put went to the website and customized a Setup file and have the ALP unit download the Setup file (PDC & LID chosen). But my unit will not go into laser defense (blue) mode, it only stays in parking (green) mode.

Also, how does one work with the bluetooth module? When I plugged it in place of the control unit and gave power to the CPU, nothing turned on.

I wish there was some sort of manual somewhere for these options/modules.

Thanks!

Sounds like you either did not load your firmware correctly or you did not load your setup file with defense settings:
See this thread: http://radarandlaserforum.com/showthread.php/29-First-steps-to-take-after-installing-your-AL-Priority

Also the Bluetooth manual is in this thread at the bottom of the first post: http://radarandlaserforum.com/showthread.php/3082-ALP-Connect-(Smartphone-App-for-AL-Priority)-with-Users-Manual

Call us

hththt
03-18-2014, 10:27 PM
yes. I tried different combo too.

_ uploaded the CPU firmware, uploaded the control unit firmware, reset factory settings and then upload my own settings
_ uploaded the CPU firmware, reset factory settings, uploaded the control unit firmware and then upload my own settings

neither worked :(

wolfpacal
03-18-2014, 10:30 PM
yes. I tried different combo too.

_ uploaded the CPU firmware, uploaded the control unit firmware, reset factory settings and then upload my own settings
_ uploaded the CPU firmware, reset factory settings, uploaded the control unit firmware and then upload my own settings

neither worked :(

Is your Control Unit off when you put in the USB stick to load the various files, or is it on and then you put in the USB to start loading the files?

BestRadarDetectors
03-18-2014, 10:31 PM
yes. I tried different combo too.

_ uploaded the CPU firmware, uploaded the control unit firmware, reset factory settings and then upload my own settings
_ uploaded the CPU firmware, reset factory settings, uploaded the control unit firmware and then upload my own settings

neither worked :(

Did the unit flash different colors while the firmware updated? Takes around a minute. If you name the file incorrectly the firmware will not update.
See this link: http://www.alpriority.com/faqs/proper-name-firmware-upgrade/
And also see this for setup file: http://www.alpriority.com/faqs/proper-name-setup-file/

hththt
03-18-2014, 10:32 PM
BRD, I followed through with that instruction twice but it didn't work. I also did a manual head test and the CPU correctly counted 4 heads. The short firmware version called out 1.1.4. I'm stumped.

I will call you guys tomorrow. Thanks!

hththt
03-18-2014, 10:33 PM
Is your Control Unit off when you put in the USB stick to load the various files, or is it on and then you put in the USB to start loading the files?

tried both. both gave me similar light and beep sequence

hththt
03-18-2014, 10:38 PM
Did the unit flash different colors while the firmware updated? Takes around a minute. If you name the file incorrectly the firmware will not update.
See this link: http://www.alpriority.com/faqs/proper-name-firmware-upgrade/
And also see this for setup file: http://www.alpriority.com/faqs/proper-name-setup-file/

I downloaded the firmware file after giving the website my serial number. The file name is Uxxxxxxx.bin so I'm pretty sure it's correct. The setup file is name setup.alp as instructed as well.

When I plugged in the USB drive and turned on the unit for updating the firmware, I got a red steady light with 3 series of 7 beeps. Does that mean my update succeed?

BestRadarDetectors
03-18-2014, 10:45 PM
I downloaded the firmware file after giving the website my serial number. The file name is Uxxxxxxx.bin so I'm pretty sure it's correct. The setup file is name setup.alp as instructed as well.

When I plugged in the USB drive and turned on the unit for updating the firmware, I got a red steady light with 3 series of 7 beeps. Does that mean my update succeed?

Error 7 is a firmware update error. Are you using a name brand formatted Fat 16 or Fat 32 drive? Was it empty with only your ALP files? Download the firmware again and try to update it again.

hththt
03-18-2014, 10:52 PM
Yes, mine is a sandisk cruzer micro 8GB that has served me well. I also tried a patriotXT 32GB and a corsair 1GB just now and got the same result? Could it be because I already update the firmware and subsequent update error out? I formatted all of these as FAT32 under windows 8.1

BestRadarDetectors
03-18-2014, 11:00 PM
Yes, mine is a sandisk cruzer micro 8GB that has served me well. I also tried a patriotXT 32GB and a corsair 1GB just now and got the same result? Could it be because I already update the firmware and subsequent update error out? I formatted all of these as FAT32 under windows 8.1

Its midnight here and I can continue trying to help you tomorrow, You can also email support@alg9.com since they are 6 hours ahead of us and its almost morning there.

dinkydi
03-18-2014, 11:00 PM
UCSET.bin ,which is for the upgrade for the controller, this upgrade goes in with the system switched off insert usb and switch on, i think it needs this before the rest of the updates can go as normal,

hththt
03-18-2014, 11:09 PM
Its midnight here and I can continue trying to help you tomorrow, You can also email support@alg9.com since they are 6 hours ahead of us and its almost morning there.

Thank you. I will get in touch with you tomorrow!

hththt
03-18-2014, 11:10 PM
UCSET.bin ,which is for the upgrade for the controller, this upgrade goes in with the system switched off insert usb and switch on, i think it needs this before the rest of the updates can go as normal,

I believed I updated the controller as per the instruction on alpupdate website. Still no luck

dinkydi
03-18-2014, 11:17 PM
ok just a thought, the usb upgrades gave me a bit of a frustrating time at first,i think Not seeing things happen on a computer , i did a default reset and started all over again , formatting and doing one at a time with 2 usb sticks ,

hththt
03-19-2014, 10:51 PM
BRD, I came home late today so i couldn't give you a call. However, I made a video just now showing me resetting the unit to factory default, downloading the firmware and attempting the update. The video also shows my serial number so I will PM you the link. Thanks everyone for your help.

speed-dreams
03-20-2014, 03:09 PM
Wouldn't be easier if the latest upgrades get loaded before shipping the system out?

BestRadarDetectors
03-20-2014, 03:38 PM
Wouldn't be easier if the latest upgrades get loaded before shipping the system out?

Don't you like to be the first one to crack open the plastic when you purchase a new product. Also from the time the product is manufactured, packed, shipped to distributors and then sold to customers the firmware could already be old. With today's jammers you always want to be current. It makes sense that when you install it you also update the firmware at the same time.

Mirage
03-20-2014, 06:29 PM
Don't you like to be the first one to crack open the plastic when you purchase a new product. Also from the time the product is manufactured, packed, shipped to distributors and then sold to customers the firmware could already be old. With today's jammers you always want to be current. It makes sense that when you install it you also update the firmware at the same time.


Couldn't agree more! You need to learn how to do it because this is a cat and mouse game and you will be updating constantly!

EightyFiveHundred
03-20-2014, 11:02 PM
Couldn't agree more! You need to learn how to do it because this is a cat and mouse game and you will be updating constantly!

I am glad we are constantly getting updates! Thank you for keeping us ahead!

hththt
03-22-2014, 04:44 PM
Just an update: a couple pages back, I came on here to ask about the inability to perform a firmware update for my ALP. BRD came through on this and sent me a replacement CPU along with a prepaid label to send the old one back. The new CPU works flawlessly and I'm a happy camper. Thought I would give a shout out to BRD for the excellent support.

Holla
03-22-2014, 09:15 PM
Just an update: a couple pages back, I came on here to ask about the inability to perform a firmware update for my ALP. BRD came through on this and sent me a replacement CPU along with a prepaid label to send the old one back. The new CPU works flawlessly and I'm a happy camper. Thought I would give a shout out to BRD for the excellent support.

Thats cool---any reason why yours would not update? Any update on that BRD :) just curious

BestRadarDetectors
03-22-2014, 09:17 PM
Thats cool---any reason why yours would not update? Any update on that BRD :) just curious

Won't know until we get the unit back. Having very few issues considering the amount of ALP'S that have been moving.

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TurboDriver
03-29-2014, 06:59 PM
Can you change the LID time (jamming time) with the Controller or only through the Set-up program/usb?

I have the programming instructions, probably same as manual, but they only pertain to parking mode settings not LID time, Pro mode, etc. It really doesn't matter to me I just do not want to change it accidentally while playing with controller. I currently do not have bluetooth.

BestRadarDetectors
03-29-2014, 07:03 PM
Can you change the LID time (jamming time) with the Controller or only through the Set-up program/usb?

I have the programming instructions, probably same as manual, but they only pertain to parking mode settings not LID time, Pro mode, etc. It really doesn't matter to me I just do not want to change it accidentally while playing with controller. I currently do not have bluetooth.

You need to use the setup file but please do not fool around with the menu because you could actually erase your firmware with special support menus.

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TurboDriver
03-29-2014, 07:40 PM
You need to use the setup file but please do not fool around with the menu because you could actually erase your firmware with special support menus.

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I have only been using the Controller programming to go from Dim to Dark (and back) and Volume. They will be the only things that I will need to change on the go without a USB.

gruntre69
06-16-2014, 07:01 AM
Hello from Australia,

Could you please tell me what the region specific differences are between the US model and the model offered in Australia?

Is there any functional difference other than the unlimited setting for the reset time out?

Are there different Lidar guns programmed or do all regions get all the latest Lidar programming?

Would a person coming to Australia to live for an extended assignment be able to use a US model in Australia?

Clint Eastwood
01-31-2015, 04:03 PM
What does a blinking red mean on power up? Trying to program it for the first time. The reset appeared to work fine, got a yellow, pressed menu 5 times, then power, etc. Now on power up, it is green+red+green then blinking red over and over. 2 heads plugged in. I was not able to find anything in the posts on that.

BestRadarDetectors
01-31-2015, 04:29 PM
What does a blinking red mean on power up? Trying to program it for the first time. The reset appeared to work fine, got a yellow, pressed menu 5 times, then power, etc. Now on power up, it is green+red+green then blinking red over and over. 2 heads plugged in. I was not able to find anything in the posts on that.
Most likely your parking sensors.. You are too close to an object.

Clint Eastwood
01-31-2015, 04:36 PM
Most likely your parking sensors.. You are too close to an object.

Bingo - give the man a cigar... I'm setting up the firmware before the actual install, so the heads were just laying haphazard.

gruntre69
02-21-2015, 06:01 PM
I have 2 priority systems, one on my 999 Ducati and one on my Ford Focus. Both are reasonably new and both are dual head setups with one front and one rear.

I have some simple questions:



My dealer in Australia eluded that the priority is sending out defense 100% of the time against all LIDAR and only alerts when a threat is detected, however my understanding from reading this forum is that it only sends specific defense out to the type of LIDAR detected after receiving the signal from the LIDAR. Which of these is acurate, or is some other scenario correct?
What exactly does pro mode do in the setup options?
Our major threats here in Western Australia are Poliscan cameras. I was targeted yesterday from the rear on my Ducati and I had the unit alert with the rear sensor, however I saw a flash from the camera. Is it possible that the unit will alert but fail to defend? I'm unable to know the result of this until I get a dreaded letter in the mail or not. I'm not sure if this relates to pro mode or not but I'm nervous now because I thought a single front and rear sensor on the Ducati would give excellent protection....
The info on the sensors says 30 degrees total coverage vertical and horizontal. Is this coverage for defending or for sensing or both?
Does this mean if a Poliscan is set up shooting at more that 15 degrees and I have only the one head on my Ducati, I will be pinged? I believe these poliscan mobile setups are very dangerous because they are can be set up off axis and shoot at very close range (10-40 Meters or 30-120 ft). Am I need 2 heads on front and rear to get protection from these. Seems excessive for a motorcycle....


I'm assuming that the Poliscan cameras haven't been thoroughly tested by anybody in this community due to the difficulty involved in accessing the device, I'm sure they are too expensive to procure for testing purposes. They are plaguing us here in WA..

I would appreciate any answers from those in the know on my questions.

Regards

GB

deano
02-21-2015, 10:53 PM
Gday where about in WA are you ?

who is your australian dealer ,,,seems like a mix up i think he was to say its a full time parking sensor

awj223
02-21-2015, 10:58 PM
I have 2 priority systems, one on my 999 Ducati and one on my Ford Focus. Both are reasonably new and both are dual head setups with one front and one rear.

I have some simple questions:



My dealer in Australia eluded that the priority is sending out defense 100% of the time against all LIDAR and only alerts when a threat is detected, however my understanding from reading this forum is that it only sends specific defense out to the type of LIDAR detected after receiving the signal from the LIDAR. Which of these is acurate, or is some other scenario correct?
What exactly does pro mode do in the setup options?
Our major threats here in Western Australia are Poliscan cameras. I was targeted yesterday from the rear on my Ducati and I had the unit alert with the rear sensor, however I saw a flash from the camera. Is it possible that the unit will alert but fail to defend? I'm unable to know the result of this until I get a dreaded letter in the mail or not. I'm not sure if this relates to pro mode or not but I'm nervous now because I thought a single front and rear sensor on the Ducati would give excellent protection....
The info on the sensors says 30 degrees total coverage vertical and horizontal. Is this coverage for defending or for sensing or both?
Does this mean if a Poliscan is set up shooting at more that 15 degrees and I have only the one head on my Ducati, I will be pinged? I believe these poliscan mobile setups are very dangerous because they are can be set up off axis and shoot at very close range (10-40 Meters or 30-120 ft). Am I need 2 heads on front and rear to get protection from these. Seems excessive for a motorcycle....


I'm assuming that the Poliscan cameras haven't been thoroughly tested by anybody in this community due to the difficulty involved in accessing the device, I'm sure they are too expensive to procure for testing purposes. They are plaguing us here in WA..

I would appreciate any answers from those in the know on my questions.

Regards

GB

1) It only sends out defenses when it detects LIDAR. There's no other way to do it without throwing jam codes. You have to predict when the gun is going to send the next pulse, and send a pulse out just ahead of it. If you just throw pulses out there at random times, it's not going to do much good (because the round trip time of a pulse from when the gun sends it until it hits your car and comes back is only a few hundred nanoseconds). So you really have to listen for those pulses, predict when the next one will be, and send a pulse out just ahead of when it pulse reaches your car, to confuse the jammer into thinking that there's an object that's closer to the gun that your car really is. By varying the timing slightly, you make the gun think that an object is moving forward, then back, then forward, then back, and it can't "lock" onto anything or obtain a reading at all.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BgIcGfQiqI

2) Pro Mode only illuminates the LEDs when you're actively being hit with LiDAR. So if you pick up momentary scatter, the LEDs wouldn't light up except for a split second, whereas if the cop is targeting you with the gun, the LEDs will stay ON.

3) If the unit is alerting, it is jamming. But jamming doesn't mean successfully defending. Getting a speed reading despite the fact that the jammers are operating is called a "punchthrough". The only way to know if you have issues is to test against a real gun.

4) This likely means that the head will transmit a LiDAR pulse 30 degrees up, down, left, and right, so that if the gun is within that cone, it will (hopefully) be jammed. But I defer to BestRadarDetectors on this one.

Vortex
05-05-2015, 10:31 AM
Can someone explain a bit more about the learning feature of the ALP? From what in understand, you install a special firmware and it has the ability to record pulse patterns to send back to AL. It's not something that's available in the public for where were you can just drive around and it'll record new pulse rates, correct? Does it also need to be done when stationary and not when driving towards the gun?

BestRadarDetectors
05-05-2015, 10:42 AM
Can someone explain a bit more about the learning feature of the ALP? From what in understand, you install a special firmware and it has the ability to record pulse patterns to send back to AL. It's not something that's available in the public for where were you can just drive around and it'll record new pulse rates, correct? Does it also need to be done when stationary and not when driving towards the gun?

Every ALP can be used as a recorder and no you do not have to be stationary and it does not require special firmware. You just need to activate the recorder but for an average user there is no need to do this so we keep the procedure private and only give out the information on an as needed basis. You can drive around with the feature activated and it will record all pulses of everything that's out there but you can not use it in defense mode at the same time so there is no point unless you are suspicious of something new. The recordings are also encrypted so there is nothing that enthusiasts or an end user will learn from the process.

Vortex
05-05-2015, 10:47 AM
Every ALP can be used as a recorder and no you do not have to be stationary and it does not require special firmware. You just need to activate the recorder but for an average user there is no need to do this so we keep the procedure private and only give out the information on an as needed basis. You can drive around with the feature activated and it will record all pulses of everything that's out there but you can not use it in defense mode at the same time so there is no point unless you are suspicious of something new. The recordings are also encrypted so there is nothing that enthusiasts or an end user will learn from the process.

Thank you for clarifying. So it's something that we all have access to but not something we'd want turned on by default. Got it. :)