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    First save along I-280?

    Was driving northbound on I-280 yesterday, right around here https://www.google.com/maps/@37.4932...QVXQ!2e0?hl=en
    between Edgewood Rd. and CA-92, doing about PSL+12 to 15. My ALP started alerting to hand-held lidar, so I took my foot off the gas, tapped the brakes, and was about to JTK when the alert suddenly stopped.

    I pulled the stats file from my ALP, and it appears that I was hit by a "Marksman and UltraLyte" type gun. Is this something that CHP uses? Strangely, I looked all around for the shooter after I got hit, but I didn't see any CHP cruisers or motorcycles in the area. Looking at Google Maps, there IS an unused onramp (for a vista point that's always closed). Would CHP shoot people that far off axis?

    I'm not sure if this really counts as a "save" though, because everyone goes PSL+15 in this area, and CHP mainly looks to ticket 85+ mph.

    Also, could the fact that the alert stopped before I hit kill be an indication of a problem with the mounting of my jammer heads? Could it mean that the officer got a PT? Or do officers routinely just move on to other cars if they can't get a PT immediately (especially if one car appears to be going the same speed as everyone else)?
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    You could have been collecting scatter from cars in the other direction being targeted.

    I've experienced this a few times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beingaware View Post
    You could have been collecting scatter from cars in the other direction being targeted.

    I've experienced this a few times.

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    If you were going the flow of traffic you were probably not the target but maybe the pack leader was or someone else looked to be going faster that the flow.
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    X3, but we can wait for a Kalifornian to weigh in

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    That spot is one of the hottest spots for LIDAR on I-280. They usually tag you about a 1/2 mile prior to that particular spot, in the curve leading toward the Vista Point exit. If you pull up the map and look up the hill to the right, it is a Vista Point, and they can hide there easily. They have been known to shoot rear LIDAR from there, though they usually do a frontal shot so as to time it so they are merging into traffic as you pass. That spot is also used by CHP as a LIDAR training location. If you were painted in that exact spot in the map, then they were probably just screwing around with the gear, as it would be a nearly 90-degree off axis shot, and way up the hill. But it was almost certainly CHP, as that very spot is THE most common shoot location - so much so I always visually check as I approach there.

    I have also seen them running C/O radar from cars just sitting on the ramp - from the rear.
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    It is also possible - as was stated earlier, someone ahead of you was painted and you got back scatter.

    Also, FYI, on I-280 in that area, the PSL is 65, but you will not get stopped unless you are going 80+.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood View Post
    That spot is one of the hottest spots for LIDAR on I-280. They usually tag you about a 1/2 mile prior to that particular spot, in the curve leading toward the Vista Point exit. If you pull up the map and look up the hill to the right, it is a Vista Point, and they can hide there easily. They have been known to shoot rear LIDAR from there, though they usually do a frontal shot so as to time it so they are merging into traffic as you pass. That spot is also used by CHP as a LIDAR training location. If you were painted in that exact spot in the map, then they were probably just screwing around with the gear, as it would be a nearly 90-degree off axis shot, and way up the hill. But it was almost certainly CHP, as that very spot is THE most common shoot location - so much so I always visually check as I approach there.

    I have also seen them running C/O radar from cars just sitting on the ramp - from the rear.
    It could have been slightly before that point on the freeway. I don't remember EXACTLY where I got the alert, but I do know it was from the front (red LED from the ALP). I was just surprised because I looked all around, and I couldn't find the LEO. I forgot about those ramps, even though I've driven past them many times, because that vista point is always closed, and I've never been up there. OT: do you know WHY that particular vista point is always closed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by awj223 View Post
    It could have been slightly before that point on the freeway. I don't remember EXACTLY where I got the alert, but I do know it was from the front (red LED from the ALP). I was just surprised because I looked all around, and I couldn't find the LEO. I forgot about those ramps, even though I've driven past them many times, because that vista point is always closed, and I've never been up there. OT: do you know WHY that particular vista point is always closed?
    Most of the time it is a CHP moto cop. You can see them sitting on top shooting down onto traffic head-on. A really good hiding spot, but I always do a visual scan when that area comes into view. They are easier to spot once that grass turns yellow - as it may be doing now. The dark green makes it a bit harder to make them out.

    CHP uses that vista point for obvious reasons. I think the maintenance costs closed some of them state wide. There are several in close proximity and they chose to close some..... I think there is an open one right after Edgewood, a mile or so before that other one.
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    I did a google search, and it looks like the place was shut down a long time ago due to illegal activity: http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/...HP-2986202.php

    I really wonder if I was the target in that attack. I was mostly going with the flow, but on the other hand, I was cruising in the fast lane (but not being a LLH, as I routinely check the mirrors).

    When you're hit by LIDAR here, how far do you drop your speed before you JTK? Would dropping all the way down to PSL be suspicious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by awj223 View Post
    When you're hit by LIDAR here, how far do you drop your speed before you JTK? Would dropping all the way down to PSL be suspicious?
    Probably not, since people always brake when they see a cop, usually well below PSL. As long as you match the surrounding traffic you should be ok to JTK.
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