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Mirage
03-03-2014, 05:56 PM
It's OFFICIAL the dragon has been slayed.

The DragonEye Compact came out in 2012 and was said to be unjammable. It was said to have a random pulse rate and some even said it did not conform to IACP rules. The AntiLaser Priority is the only laser system in the world to detect and jam modern laser speed measurement devices such as the DragonEye Compact. The DragonEye Compact is currently being distributed in the USA, Canada, and is being introduced in Australia. It's advance method of laser speed measurement caused many headaches to other jammer manufacturers. Companies who have been long present in the US market with products having the sole purpose of defending against laser speed measurements had NO success in providing protection against these new lidar guns, leaving their customers unprotected. When others failed, the AL Priority team accomplished in less than 6 months. The version you are about to watch is based on a beta release of the firmware. That's right BETA. The final version I have been told will be released in approximately two weeks. This is a new ERA in laser counter measures and I'm happy to have been a part of it.

I suppose you want to see proof. Well here is the AL Priority vs The DragonEye Compact - Presented by Raletc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjh7_BI0hc4




So to appease the naysayers here is yet another video of the ALP jamming the compact. RadarRob is the shooter and he is trying to hold a video camera behind the
DragonEye and record at the same time. Oh did I mention it's 30 degrees when they are recording the video. Now that's dedication to the community right there! This is
a more traditional test with Center Mass, Driver Side, and Passenger Side Testing.




http://youtu.be/xy-HwThGIlk

Yellowcab
03-03-2014, 06:03 PM
Great job AntiLaser!!! You did what everyone in the industry said couldn't be done.

BestRadarDetectors
03-03-2014, 06:07 PM
Mirage... Thanks for all your time spent on this. You are truly an asset to the community.

GA Speed
03-03-2014, 06:07 PM
Outstanding work a lot of people will chocking on some works that have come out of their mouths.

max
03-03-2014, 06:09 PM
Well done!!!

max
03-03-2014, 06:13 PM
I have not saw any jamming codes!
are there any jam codes in the compact/eccm mode?

BestRadarDetectors
03-03-2014, 06:14 PM
I have not saw any jamming codes!
are there any jam codes in the compact/eccm mode?

Yes, But the Compact does display Jamming on the Display when it thinks its being jammed.

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Jam / ECM Attempt Indication:
The DragonEye Compact Speed LIDARTM contains sophisticated counter measures to defeat LIDAR “Jamming” devices available in the consumer market place, while continuing to display accurate speed readings. The system also indicates when a jammer or other Electronic Counter Measure (ECM) is detected on the target vehicle by displaying the phrase “Jam ECM” on the side display and flashing the “” symbol in the HUD.

Mirage
03-03-2014, 06:16 PM
Mirage... Thanks for all your time spent on this. You are truly an asset to the community.

First of all it wasn't just me. The entire RALETC team pitched in. Special thanks to you Tom for getting information to AL and making all this possible and of course a very special thanks to the guys from AL that we spoke with along the way. You guys have been nothing short of amazing.

max
03-03-2014, 06:17 PM
Yes, But the Compact does display Jamming on the Display when it thinks its being jammed.

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Jam / ECM Attempt Indication:
The DragonEye Compact Speed LIDARTM contains sophisticated counter measures to defeat LIDAR “Jamming” devices available in the consumer market place, while continuing to display accurate speed readings. The system also indicates when a jammer or other Electronic Counter Measure (ECM) is detected on the target vehicle by displaying the phrase “Jam ECM” on the side display and flashing the “” symbol in the HUD.
Congratulations on this
This is another achievement!

GotWake
03-03-2014, 06:18 PM
Awesome!

Mirage
03-03-2014, 06:18 PM
I have not saw any jamming codes!
are there any jam codes in the compact/eccm mode?

In the first run you will see 3 hash marks in the upper left corner on the HUD. This is the jam detection. It only happens at close range and only on one of the versions of the Compact that we tested.

Won Hunglo
03-03-2014, 06:21 PM
Awesome work by RALETC, BRD & the whole ALP crew! It is amazing what the laser and radar detector community can achieve when it is not fighting, arguing, stealth banning and spreading pure lies about each other. I am proud to be a member of this test group. We are drama free with the same goal. Let’s keep focusing on things we enjoy doing, like slaying dragons.

spankyaf
03-03-2014, 06:21 PM
Well done ... the game just changed

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BestRadarDetectors
03-03-2014, 06:22 PM
First of all it wasn't just me. The entire RALETC team pitched in. Special thanks to you Tom for getting information to AL and making all this possible and of course a very special thanks to the guys from AL that we spoke with along the way. You guys have been nothing short of amazing.

I was not short changing RALETC as I know it was a team effort.. I was mentioning all the time you spent on putting the Presentation together. You did a fantastic job.

Salty
03-03-2014, 06:22 PM
I will never get sick of watching that vid!

max
03-03-2014, 06:26 PM
Let's cross fingers that the DALA guys want come up with new software that will take 2 years to break...

BestRadarDetectors
03-03-2014, 06:28 PM
Let's cross fingers that the DALA guys want come up with new software that will take 2 years to break...

I cant explain why but very doubtful.

Won Hunglo
03-03-2014, 06:28 PM
Let's cross fingers that the DALA guys want come up with new software that will take 2 years to break...

The software is not beat. The dragon is slayed. :)

Mirage
03-03-2014, 06:29 PM
I will never get sick of watching that vid!

Sure you will... when we publish the next one.... :smiley-laughing:

Clint Eastwood
03-03-2014, 06:29 PM
How many heads on the front of the vehicle?

Mirage
03-03-2014, 06:30 PM
How many heads on the front of the vehicle?

2 for this test, but we are testing 3 on another vehicle and this one will have 3 soon.

max
03-03-2014, 06:34 PM
Sure you will... when we publish the next one.... :smiley-laughing:

And when it's supposed to happen?

Clint Eastwood
03-03-2014, 06:34 PM
Thanks for not listing the video. Too much work to just give away the info and he totally rewrites the code to use some other scheme.

--- Although just realized, this is not closed off... he probably already saw it...

NYSpeederPVM
03-03-2014, 06:38 PM
Awesome vid.

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Salty
03-03-2014, 06:39 PM
Thanks for not listing the video. Too much work to just give away the info and he totally rewrites the code to use some other scheme.

--- Although just realized, this is not closed off... he probably already saw it...

No worries. ;) That's all I can say. No worries. ;)

BestRadarDetectors
03-03-2014, 06:39 PM
Thanks for not listing the video. Too much work to just give away the info and he totally rewrites the code to use some other scheme.

It should be noted that we have tested several Compacts with different firmwares. The ALP not only jammed one but it Jammed everyone of them. We cant get into more details but we feel very confident that there will not be much they could do going forward.

Clint Eastwood
03-03-2014, 06:40 PM
So, a beer for you guys.... whenever I get your way.... :hail:

Mirage
03-03-2014, 06:40 PM
Thanks for not listing the video. Too much work to just give away the info and he totally rewrites the code to use some other scheme.

--- Although just realized, this is not closed off... he probably already saw it...

DragonEye is constantly changing things to try and keep the jammer companies guessing. This is why LI is in so much trouble right now. They have missed too many versions of the DALA to be effective. The video will be made public at some point, but rest assured AL is NOT concerned about DragonEye. They have something else up their sleeve.

dinkydi
03-03-2014, 06:50 PM
pure gold,

Clint Eastwood
03-03-2014, 06:54 PM
TSS in weather mode?

dragons
03-03-2014, 07:01 PM
Yes, But the Compact does display Jamming on the Display when it thinks its being jammed.

..

Jam / ECM Attempt Indication:
The DragonEye Compact Speed LIDARTM contains sophisticated counter measures to defeat LIDAR “Jamming” devices available in the consumer market place, while continuing to display accurate speed readings. The system also indicates when a jammer or other Electronic Counter Measure (ECM) is detected on the target vehicle by displaying the phrase “Jam ECM” on the side display and flashing the “” symbol in the HUD.

So does this mean the compact displays error codes while alp is jamming it?

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Yellowcab
03-03-2014, 07:03 PM
The compact shows jam codes when shooting cars with xenon and LED headlights.

Mirage
03-03-2014, 07:04 PM
So does this mean the compact displays error codes while alp is jamming it?

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The compact displays error codes even when it's not being jammed, but to answer your question at least one of the firmware versions does show a jam detection at sub 100 ft.

BestRadarDetectors
03-03-2014, 07:05 PM
The compact shows jam codes when shooting cars with xenon and LED headlights.

True there is a NOTE in the Manual:

"Note that extremely bright surfaces on the target vehicle, such as high beam headlights or sun reflections can cause the jam indicators to turn on. If you experience any difficulty locking in a speed reading when “Jam” is indicated, try moving the HUD aiming point to another location on the vehicle."

dragons
03-03-2014, 07:06 PM
The compact displays error codes even when it's not being jammed, but to answer your question at least one of the firmware versions does show a jam detection at sub 100 ft.

Well that's fair it's not that likely you would need to jam at less than that anyway

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NYSpeederPVM
03-03-2014, 07:13 PM
Just ordered a dual :D

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radargeek
03-03-2014, 07:20 PM
SWEET!

Not only did they jam the "impossible to jam" lidar, they did it without even throwing any jam codes (except one at really close range)!

I need to start saving up for an ALP. Probably not right away since I'm piss poor right now and there's none of these weasel guns where I am right now yet, though I do occasionally (once every couple years) travel through/in states that have them. For now my LI will have to do. But in the future, definitely.

Mirage
03-03-2014, 07:26 PM
Just ordered a dual :D

You won't be sorry this is by FAR the best system on the market and with what ALP has in store there is even more to come.

JohnBoy
03-03-2014, 07:29 PM
Six months ago I read everything I could get my hands on when deciding on a "parking sensor". I really felt like I was going out on a limb as an early adopter of the ALP. Very little testing and a couple hundred bucks more. But I kept thinking to myself, "If you don't go with these new cutting edge jammers, you will regret it less than a year from now."

Now I can safely say, "I HAVE ZERO REGRETS"!

Thanks to EVERYONE that has made this possible: ALP developers, Tom - One of the most pleasant people on earth and to Mirage and RALETC for the testing and outstanding videos!

Woop! Woop! :hail:

curmudgeon
03-03-2014, 07:33 PM
And thanks for being an "early adopter"..........you've helped encourage everyone who was involved in bringing this to fruition

Yellowcab
03-03-2014, 07:34 PM
Raletc will be holding and attending other jammer testing meets. We will bring the LIDARs that all of you fear. Attendees will get the opportunity to shoot these LIDARs themselves at cars equipped with Blinders, LIs, Escort pro and ALPs. They will see for themselves the strengths and weaknesses of the various jammers.

Who wants a RALETC jammer meet?

dragons
03-03-2014, 07:44 PM
Come to Queensland we would love to have you!

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wolfpacal
03-03-2014, 08:20 PM
Who wants a RALETC jammer meet?

Maybe you guys could come to the Can-Am meet this Spring. Damn, I just had my quad LI's put on my vehicle. Now I have to rip them out and outfit my vehicle with an ALP Quad. How much do you guys figure an LI Quad will sell for on E-bay? I would like to make some money back after switching everything out. Have a feeling that the price of a used LI system is about to plummet.

Mirage
03-03-2014, 08:22 PM
Who wants a RALETC jammer meet?

Maybe you guys could come to the Can-Am meet this Spring. Damn, I just had my quad LI's put on my vehicle. Now I have to rip them out and outfit my vehicle with an ALP Quad. How much do you guys figure an LI Quad will sell for on E-bay? I would like to make some money back after switching everything out.

You better get it up on eBay before people see this and future videos. Just saying. You won't be sorry if you switch you'll be surprised by the quality and the performance of the ALP and believe me I've had EVERY brand out there.

Mirage
03-03-2014, 08:23 PM
Who wants a RALETC jammer meet?

If you come see me you can have a shot at the ZL1!

winterbrew
03-03-2014, 09:05 PM
Six months ago I read everything I could get my hands on when deciding on a "parking sensor". I really felt like I was going out on a limb as an early adopter of the ALP. Very little testing and a couple hundred bucks more. But I kept thinking to myself, "If you don't go with these new cutting edge jammers, you will regret it less than a year from now."

Now I can safely say, "I HAVE ZERO REGRETS"!

Thanks to EVERYONE that has made this possible: ALP developers, Tom - One of the most pleasant people on earth and to Mirage and RALETC for the testing and outstanding videos!

Woop! Woop! :hail:

+1 - my thoughts exactly, difficult being an early adopter especially after being burned being an early adopter of the HP-905 and then finding out about the Poliscan issue :)

AL has always had a good record with users in AU for previous units, so I thought it would be worth a punt, and I'm very happy that I did !

curmudgeon
03-03-2014, 09:18 PM
difficult being an early adopter especially after being burned being an early adopter of the HP-905 and then finding out about the Poliscan issue

considering the Australian "premium" you blokes have to pay for cm's, it must be even more worrisome.

Tman
03-03-2014, 10:21 PM
What an achievment ...

Alp Team ''has spoken with the mouth of his cannon''

This is an historical phrase given by governor Frontenac , when the British gave this ultimatum : surrender your city.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efVzOA8LKng

Holla
03-03-2014, 10:30 PM
Awesome job by everyone---Im sure ALP has made a believer out of alot of people, My order will be coming in soon to Tom :)

Holla
03-03-2014, 10:30 PM
2 for this test, but we are testing 3 on another vehicle and this one will have 3 soon.

Why are you saying you want/need 3? Just curious since it did so well

RedRocket
03-03-2014, 11:37 PM
Why are you saying you want/need 3? Just curious since it did so well
Extremism in defense of roadway Freedom is no vice !

Vortex
03-04-2014, 12:01 AM
Hey guys, just wanted to compliment you all. Great work addressing the Compact. That's a huge achievement and is another feather in the hat (a big one) for the ALP. :)

Holla
03-04-2014, 12:22 AM
HAHA--same reason I want 3 on the front of my vehicle too, just to be sure and have a little more reassurance :)

dinkydi
03-04-2014, 01:28 AM
kudos to all the team for making it happen

Mirage
03-04-2014, 04:49 AM
Why do I want three heads. Basically I have an issue with open ports on my ALP I want to experience the full potential. LOL

Qui-Gon
03-04-2014, 06:19 AM
It should be noted that we have tested several Compacts with different firmwares. The ALP not only jammed one but it Jammed everyone of them. We cant get into more details but we feel very confident that there will not be much they could do going forward.

Wish I could afford to switch out now...

Damn it, being poor stinks!

Mirage
03-04-2014, 06:26 AM
Wish I could afford to switch out now...

Damn it, being poor stinks!

Sell you LI's while they are worth some money and you should be able to get one.

shanetrainST
03-04-2014, 07:23 AM
Nice work RALETC & Antilaser :) very impressive stuff

EightyFiveHundred
03-04-2014, 08:00 AM
Congrats guys! As a newbie to the laser world, I'm glad I went with ALP after months of due diligence on the other options.

Woo Hoo!!!!!

melbVt
03-04-2014, 08:13 AM
Great job AntiLaser!!! You did what everyone in the industry said couldn't be done.

4sure Cliff Crane I'm glad i never brought that Li from that guy ,

Is just me or is the Al had more updates in less time then any other Jammer! ROCK ON I LOVE THE ALp

Radarrob
03-04-2014, 08:20 AM
4sure Cliff Crane I'm glad i never brought that Li from that guy ,

Is just me or is the Al had more updates in less time then any other Jammer! ROCK ON I LOVE THE ALpAlP had more updates.

THX1138
03-04-2014, 08:46 AM
So when is this firmware going to be available installed on production units? I'm very interested in having the dragon threat out of my head. Very exciting times!

BestRadarDetectors
03-04-2014, 08:52 AM
So when is this firmware going to be available installed on production units? I'm very interested in having the dragon threat out of my head. Very exciting times!

Should be in the next update. Going forward before any firmware is released AL releases firmware to the Distributors to test and run with for a certain amount of time to make sure there are no issues before rolled out to the masses.

Salty
03-04-2014, 10:02 AM
How exciting his has all been! I find it absolutely hysterical that some from elsewhere are questioning the legitimacy of this video. I would tell them to test it themselves, but we all know that will never happen. Like yellowcab mentioned earlier, members who attend a Raletc meet will be able to see for themselves that everything portrayed in the video is true. You will get to shoot these guns yourself! If they still choose to not believe the members, well, I don't know what else to say.

Radarrob
03-04-2014, 10:15 AM
How exciting his has all been! I find it absolutely hysterical that some from elsewhere are questioning the legitimacy of this video. I would tell them to test it themselves, but we all know that will never happen. Like yellowcab mentioned earlier, members who attend a Raletc meet will be able to see for themselves that everything portrayed in the video is true. You will get to shoot these guns yourself! If they still choose to not believe the members, well, I don't know what else to say.Big X2!

CJR238
03-04-2014, 10:21 AM
Does this mean i should upgrade my ZR4's that have served me so well for so long? :eyebrows:

Good stuff guys, and though i am more of a realist when it comes to laser jammers its nice to see a product that encompasses new technology and function as well as all around performance.

Nice to see results on other forums as well! :moon:

Yellowcab
03-04-2014, 10:25 AM
Does this mean i should upgrade my ZR4's that have served me so well for so long? :eyebrows:

Good stuff guys, and though i am more of a realist when it comes to laser jammers its nice to see a product that encompasses new technology and function as well as all around performance.

Nice to see results on other forums as well! :moon:

Keep the ZR4s. I want to see how they do against the compact. I hope to see you at a testing meet.

RedRocket
03-04-2014, 12:37 PM
Does this mean i should upgrade my ZR4's that have served me so well for so long? :eyebrows:
CT is Dragon country,only a matter of time before you're burnt toast ! :drama:

Salty
03-04-2014, 12:40 PM
CT is Dragon country,only a matter of time before you're burnt toast ! :drama:

DALA's are spreading like wild fire. I never thought my state would buy them, but they have!

Holla
03-04-2014, 12:50 PM
How exciting his has all been! I find it absolutely hysterical that some from elsewhere are questioning the legitimacy of this video. I would tell them to test it themselves, but we all know that will never happen. Like yellowcab mentioned earlier, members who attend a Raletc meet will be able to see for themselves that everything portrayed in the video is true. You will get to shoot these guns yourself! If they still choose to not believe the members, well, I don't know what else to say.

I saw that post too--Always a person or 2 out there that has to be negative against an accomplishment, they will always be that way with anything---I just laughed at it and if he doesn't believe it, well then dont

BestRadarDetectors
03-04-2014, 12:54 PM
I saw that post too--Always a person or 2 out there that has to be negative against an accomplishment, they will always be that way with anything---I just laughed at it and if he doesn't believe it, well then dont

I agree... Love the last Comment stating that the vehicle was black and the member asked if VEIL was applied. If Mirage wants he can post a video of my wife's WHITE SUV and the results are the same. This is the real deal and the results are what they show they are. The ALP is much more advanced than the competition and it can do what the competition said could not be done.

Salty
03-04-2014, 12:59 PM
I agree... Love the last Comment stating that the vehicle was black and the member asked if VEIL was applied. If Mirage wants he can post a video of my wife's WHITE SUV and the results are the same. This is the real deal and the results are what they show they are. The ALP is much more advanced than the competition and it can do what the competition said could not be done.

Yep. An "unjammable" gun was jammed b/c of Veil....

Vortex
03-04-2014, 01:00 PM
I agree... Love the last Comment stating that the vehicle was black and the member asked if VEIL was applied. If Mirage wants he can post a video of my wife's WHITE SUV and the results are the same. This is the real deal and the results are what they show they are. The ALP is much more advanced than the competition and it can do what the competition said could not be done.

I drive a dark blue car with Veil and it didn't impact the Compact's abilities. Granted my grill is chrome, but that's veiled too.

Salty
03-04-2014, 01:01 PM
I drive a dark blue car with Veil and it didn't impact the Compact's abilities. Granted my grill is chrome, but that's veiled too.

Are you still driving the 2.0 turbo Sonata? I absolutely love how that car looks.

Vortex
03-04-2014, 01:19 PM
Are you still driving the 2.0 turbo Sonata? I absolutely love how that car looks.

Yep! Love my car! My lease ends in October and if I stay in the country and don't start traveling, I'll be selling my 905's and switching to ALP's. :)

NYSpeederPVM
03-04-2014, 01:37 PM
Yep. An "unjammable" gun was jammed b/c of Veil....

Dude you guys didn't know? I've been jtg'ing the dalas for years with veil and a laser shield. The trick is to use 2 coats otherwise you'll get pts under 100 feet, 2 coats = jtg.

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Mirage
03-04-2014, 01:54 PM
You guys obviously haven't been paying attention. My car is Black, has a 3m Clear Bra and 100 coats of veil. The ALP is there for looks and to let me know someone is trying to get through.


COME ON! Really...

Ok we will do the same test on a white car. How about that...

beingaware
03-04-2014, 02:52 PM
Just throw up a video to keep the doubters happy.

LI fans seem to be living in denial land out at the other place hah.

I use Veil, and while it helps, it would never JTG any modern LIDAR.
Even on my black car.
You can get locks off someone's sun visor or etag if you are skillful enough.



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Qui-Gon
03-04-2014, 02:55 PM
...My car is Black, has a 3m Clear Bra and 100 coats of veil...

Hey, I HAD a car that resembles that remark, minus the 3M Clear Bra and the black color (was a dark green):

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll296/vschuel/DSCN1525-1.jpg

I have to admit, I am VERY impressed with what I've seen and heard so far about the ALP. Not sure I'd get much for my LI Quad (it's 4 years old, rear heads have mounting ears snipped off, and one of the cable connectors is broken -plastic tab broke off).

wolfpacal
03-04-2014, 03:08 PM
Hey, I HAD a car that resembles that remark, minus the 3M Clear Bra and the black color (was a dark green):

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll296/vschuel/DSCN1525-1.jpg

I have to admit, I am VERY impressed with what I've seen and heard so far about the ALP. Not sure I'd get much for my LI Quad (it's 4 years old, rear heads have mounting ears snipped off, and one of the cable connectors is broken -plastic tab broke off).

LI Quad on e-bay should fetch at least $450 if not more. I think that price is realistic. Helps offset the new ALP system. Only a matter of time before you see the Dragon in WNY. It's like upgrading a cell phone, buy new, sell the old one to offset the price and you're golden again. I have to upgrade, no choice. DALA is everywhere where I live. Spanky also noted he saw an OPP LEO playing with one in the parking lot where he went for breakfast. If the OPP get them, and you don't have an ALP, you're toast. Order for the ALP forthcoming.

Mirage
03-04-2014, 03:31 PM
So for the naysayers on the other forum I can assure you my video is legit, but just in case we still have some doubters. I have uploaded a video shot by RadarRob & Tom. On a WHITE SUV!


http://youtu.be/xy-HwThGIlk


Need more proof. Join us at a RALETC event near you!

radargeek
03-04-2014, 04:14 PM
You can get locks off someone's sun visor or etag if you are skillful enough.Note to self: Veil my etag and visor. :D

I'm fortunate I live in PL3 country since I can't afford to replace my LI with... well, anything.

Radarrob
03-04-2014, 04:23 PM
Below freezing temps. Very difficult to hold camera and gun at same time.No tripod!

RigToFly01
03-04-2014, 04:24 PM
I really was lucky and stumbled into the ALP and all this. I think I was in the first group of people to get the ALP in the US. That is what radarrob told me on the install. I feel happy and excited to be here and now be an addict. Now I have the quad setup and looking to buy my first LIDAR gun. Depending on how my little Prius does on the next meetup maybe I will buy the 5th head for the front. It feels really good to be in on the ground floor of this. Keep up the great work guys!

BestRadarDetectors
03-04-2014, 04:59 PM
So for the naysayers on the other forum I can assure you my video is legit, but just in case we still have some doubters. I have uploaded a video shot by RadarRob & Tom. On a WHITE SUV!


http://youtu.be/xy-HwThGIlk


Need more proof. Join us at a RALETC event near you!

Please note that not only was this a different vehicle with a different shooter in a different state it was also a different version Compact.
The video was not shot for showing purposes which is why we had real plates on the car so we had to block the license plates on the video.
It will show that vehicle color had no bearing in these tests and there is no VEIL on either of the vehicles.

lugnuts
03-04-2014, 05:07 PM
So for the naysayers on the other forum I can assure you my video is legit, but just in case we still have some doubters. I have uploaded a video shot by RadarRob & Tom. On a WHITE SUV!


http://youtu.be/xy-HwThGIlk


Need more proof. Join us at a RALETC event near you! I wasnt being a naysayer I just like to see indipendant confirmation of any result, its the scientist in me and having spent the early years of my career working in a lab people always question results.

Veil Guy
03-04-2014, 05:08 PM
Impressive.

I will be most interested to pair a single head each for the front and back on my Bimmer with Veil all around to see if only two heads would do the trick with my configuration.

VG

dinkydi
03-04-2014, 05:11 PM
seeing all this advancement in a short pace of time of the ALP's , just oozes confidence when on the black top :D

Mirage
03-04-2014, 05:18 PM
seeing all this advancement in a short pace of time of the ALP's , just oozes confidence when on the black top :D

Just don't let it make you believe you are bulletproof. There is ALWAYS the possibility of a random PT with any product. Even though less likely on an ALP :cheerful:

Mirage
03-04-2014, 05:19 PM
I wasnt being a naysayer I just like to see indipendant confirmation of any result, its the scientist in me and having spent the early years of my career working in a lab people always question results.

Sounds great you're invited to attend any RALETC event and try it for yourself!

THX1138
03-04-2014, 05:20 PM
Are there any planned RALETC events? If so when/where?

Mirage
03-04-2014, 05:23 PM
Are there any planned RALETC events? If so when/where?

I'll PM you with the closest location and date.

lugnuts
03-04-2014, 05:31 PM
Sounds great you're invited to attend any RALETC event and try it for yourself!

if I am ever available to do so I will. until I bought my LIs and tested them myself I was still slightly skeptical of them. If these truely work as the videos show against all guns out then I will be putting them on my car.

Mirage
03-04-2014, 06:20 PM
if I am ever available to do so I will. until I bought my LIs and tested them myself I was still slightly skeptical of them. If these truely work as the videos show against all guns out then I will be putting them on my car.

Fair enough. You'll be pleasantly surprised. I tested the HP 905 after having LI's and I wasn't impressed. I later purchased the ALP not really knowing what it was capable of. When Won and I tested it against some of the toughest guns we own we couldn't believe the results. We were not even seeing the sub 100 PTs like we did on the LI quad I used to have on my Camaro. Suffice it to say it was enough for me to sell all my LI units (except one, my bench test) and purchase the ALP. I could never go back now after using the Bluetooth module and the radar integration. It's truly an integrated system with incredible performance.

Won Hunglo
03-04-2014, 06:33 PM
I wasnt being a naysayer I just like to see indipendant confirmation of any result, its the scientist in me and having spent the early years of my career working in a lab people always question results.

If you don't want to do a RALETC meet where you can test your own set up against the Compact, why don't you test the Compact with the other test group? Let us know your first hand results with the other test group.

Won Hunglo
03-04-2014, 06:40 PM
Fair enough. You'll be pleasantly surprised. I tested the HP 905 after having LI's and I wasn't impressed. I later purchased the ALP not really knowing what it was capable of. When Won and I tested it against some of the toughest guns we own we couldn't believe the results. We were not even seeing the sub 100 PTs like we did on the LI quad I used to have on my Camaro. Suffice it to say it was enough for me to sell all my LI units (except one, my bench test) and purchase the ALP. I could never go back now after using the Bluetooth module and the radar integration. It's truly an integrated system with incredible performance.

I have not been this impressed with a new jammer since the LIs first came on the scene years ago. In personal testing back in the Blinder days, LIs changed everything. Then the ALP came along and re-wrote the book on jammer performance. I was just as impressed with the ALPs performance over the LIs as I was with LIs over Blinders. If LI can respond, I will not hesitate to give them credit. I love seeing progress in our hobby. It is good for us all!

beingaware
03-04-2014, 06:47 PM
So whens RALETC coming to AU? ;)

lugnuts
03-04-2014, 06:52 PM
If you don't want to do a RALETC meet where you can test your own set up against the Compact, why don't you test the Compact with the other test group? Let us know your first hand results with the other test group.

I would love to test with the Compact unfortunately nobody in the group I test with has one yet. I want/need the best jammer for my car so I have been keeping an eye on the hapenings with the ALP. with some recent news of the dala entering an area I travel to/through regularly this has become even more important.

RedRocket
03-04-2014, 07:52 PM
So whens RALETC coming to AU? ;)
When you send your Private Jet to pick us up ! (& you'd better have some gorgeous Stewardes's & a full Bar of beverages,too)

beingaware
03-04-2014, 07:56 PM
How about as live cargo on a VA flight ?

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Clint Eastwood
03-04-2014, 09:12 PM
So..... what exactly was the difference between the Compact and regular DA guns? I thought the algos were the same on all of them. ?

RedRocket
03-04-2014, 11:44 PM
Claiming it to be "unjammable" should inform you of its degree of difference.Divulging more would require the administration of Extreme Prejudice.Dirty Harry knows better,but nice try anyway. :cower:

Clint Eastwood
03-05-2014, 02:25 AM
Claiming it to be "unjammable" should inform you of its degree of difference.Divulging more would require the administration of Extreme Prejudice.Dirty Harry knows better,but nice try anyway. :cower:

Yeah, but I thought Dragon's forte was that all of his DALA guns were un-jammable. At least, iteratively.

Vortex
03-05-2014, 02:47 AM
Yeah, but I thought Dragon's forte was that all of his DALA guns were un-jammable. At least, iteratively.

via different anti-jamming techniques. What's used by the Compact is a more sophisticated technique than what's used in the traditional Laser Allys.

Clint Eastwood
03-05-2014, 03:45 AM
Maybe this was explained on another post, but what are the tones on the gun? The click, click, vs steady tone? Is the gun being triggered full time in the video, or just some of the time?

Mirage
03-05-2014, 06:31 AM
Maybe this was explained on another post, but what are the tones on the gun? The click, click, vs steady tone? Is the gun being triggered full time in the video, or just some of the time?

From the DragonEye Compact Manual:

"You may hear an intermittent audible tone as the LIDAR searches for a valid target signal. You will also see “----“displayed in the HUD indicating the laser is firing and a reading is being acquired. Once target vehicle data is identified, the LIDAR will produce a continuous
lower frequency tone. When the data from the vehicle reaches an acceptable accuracy level, audible tone will switch to a continuous, higher frequency and the vehicle speed reading will be displayed in the HUD and on the side panel.
Note: At typical distances the above acquisition sequence can happen very quickly and you may simply hear the high frequency tone and see the speed display immediately."


Basically the short tones are the gun searching for a signal. The long tones indicate that it believes it has found an acceptable signal and is trying to process for accuracy. In the case of the ALP, I believe this to be part of the algorithm they use as you will here it appear to
lock on and then start searching again. I suspect this is part of why you don't see jam codes until you are at close distance.

ECMExpert
03-05-2014, 08:39 PM
I was THE original purchaser from Tom OF THE quints and it's been tested time and again and early on. All of the above just confirms my most excellent decision to get the ALP. One suggestion is to keep this under our respective hosts at this point as there is MORE to come.

Clint Eastwood
03-05-2014, 10:30 PM
You do have to admit, the Compact is one butt-ugly looking LIDAR gun.

BestRadarDetectors
03-05-2014, 10:35 PM
You do have to admit, the Compact is one butt-ugly looking LIDAR gun.

But it is very nice and comfortable to shoot and also very quick.

RedRocket
03-05-2014, 10:35 PM
Clint - Bwaaahahahahaha,I've been thinking the same thing ever since I first saw it & you're the FIRST one I've heard say that.I'm having a hard time finding the keys to type this post while laughing.

winterbrew
03-06-2014, 01:36 AM
Announced on antilaser's home page ;

http://www.antilaser.info/?p=684

deano
03-06-2014, 05:31 AM
normally Al takes hundreds of years to up date there web site WOW that was fast

Tman
03-06-2014, 08:44 AM
I know Mirage already answered this interrogation : is there any drawback to such open\widely advertisement ?

What i fear is the pursuit of a super-duper laser gun ....anti-anti-anti Alp.

On the other side , it is normal to want to show your new born qualities ...like any proud father :GB_bonesrock:

BestRadarDetectors
03-06-2014, 09:00 AM
I know Mirage already answered this interrogation : is there any drawback to such open\widely advertisement ?

What i fear is the pursuit of a super-duper laser gun ....anti-anti-anti Alp.

On the other side , it is normal to want to show your new born qualities ...like any proud father :GB_bonesrock:
If the ALP operated like the rest of the conventional jammers than I might be concerned but it doesn't. The ALP technology is far superior.

Tman
03-06-2014, 09:43 AM
Thanks for sharing \ and calming my fears...though i know that you know what you are doing :encouragement:


If the ALP operated like the rest of the conventional jammers than I might be concerned but it doesn't. The ALP technology is far superior.

spankyaf
03-08-2014, 09:00 PM
I know Mirage already answered this interrogation : is there any drawback to such open\widely advertisement ?

What i fear is the pursuit of a super-duper laser gun ....anti-anti-anti Alp.

On the other side , it is normal to want to show your new born qualities ...like any proud father :GB_bonesrock:

Seriously do you really think the mfgs and their representatives aren't all over these forums?

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Tman
03-08-2014, 09:36 PM
Seriously do you really think the mfgs and their representatives aren't all over these forums?

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If ever i was on the other side , 100% i would be on the look-out...know your enemy is priority ONE .

Tom gave a re-assuring response :

''If the ALP operated like the rest of the conventional jammers''

Jmich
03-08-2014, 11:17 PM
http://youtu.be/UPw-3e_pzqU

spankyaf
03-09-2014, 08:01 AM
I'm encouraged by that statement Tman but this is a hobby that lives and dies based on superior technology that we all know keeps changing. LI had a pretty good run (maybe they are done)

The funny thing is one of my LI CPUs is failing to boot up ... I'm torn between checking the warranty date or just throw the dam thing out ... lol

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Yellowcab
03-09-2014, 08:47 AM
I'm encouraged by that statement Tman but this is a hobby that lives and dies based on superior technology that we all know keeps changing. LI had a pretty good run (maybe they are done)

The funny thing is one of my LI CPUs is failing to boot up ... I'm torn between checking the warranty date or just throw the dam thing out ... lol

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I would call Cliff up. I wouldn't be surprised if he replaced your CPU at no charge, even if it is out of warrantee.

Won Hunglo
03-09-2014, 10:15 AM
I'm encouraged by that statement Tman but this is a hobby that lives and dies based on superior technology that we all know keeps changing. LI had a pretty good run (maybe they are done)

The funny thing is one of my LI CPUs is failing to boot up ... I'm torn between checking the warranty date or just throw the dam thing out ... lol

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LIs will be around for a long time. Very few people take performance to the extreme that we do. Want proof? Just list a set of Blinder M20's on Feebay & watch the bidding run wild. They would not even get a second look here in swap & sale.

I bet Cliff would set you up on the CPU. He has always stepped up to help out forum members in the past.

revolution
03-17-2014, 12:38 PM
Are there any radar dectors that detect the Dragon guns?

BestRadarDetectors
03-17-2014, 01:15 PM
Are there any radar dectors that detect the Dragon guns?

New Whistler Detectors will alert and also the Escort Redline. Never tested the Max.

revolution
03-17-2014, 01:31 PM
Will the 9500ix?

BestRadarDetectors
03-17-2014, 01:49 PM
Will the 9500ix?

No

revolution
03-17-2014, 01:56 PM
So I need to pawn it off to my wife and get a Max or Redline which does everyone recommended?

Salty
03-17-2014, 02:07 PM
So I need to pawn it off to my wife and get a Max or Redline which does everyone recommended?

Just so you know, it really doesn't matter what RD you have when it comes to lidar. In almost 100% of cases, once you get a lidar alert, cop already has your speed. The only RD that may give you a chance at a lidar save is a V1. Keep your current RD, and use that money to invest in some ALP's.

Holla
03-17-2014, 02:08 PM
Just so you know, it really doesn't matter what RD you have when it comes to lidar. In almost 100% of cases, once you get a lidar alert, cop already has your speed. The only RD that may give you a chance at a lidar save is a V1. Keep your current RD, and use that money to invest in some ALP's.

What he said ^^^^^^

But you could use that excuse to get you another RD lol----Redline :roflmfao:

revolution
03-17-2014, 02:18 PM
I'm going to buy a quad system but don't you need a radar that picks it up too or will the jammer notify you

speed-dreams
03-17-2014, 02:37 PM
No
How about the V1?

Radarrob
03-17-2014, 04:25 PM
How about the V1?V1 will alert.

Won Hunglo
03-17-2014, 04:53 PM
How about the V1?
Both the current generation V1 lidar detection and the older 1.7 generation 1 V1 lidar detection systems alert.:applouse: