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BestRadarDetectors
01-08-2014, 01:49 PM
Was just testing to make sure that the AL Priority w/Sti-R Plus integration was as fast as the Escort Redline RDR/BS and I am very satisfied with everything I have seen to date. I did not have a stop watch but these were extremely fast I/O shots and the integration did extremely well.


http://youtu.be/Ks7O4_QsgC0

Also, Wanted to make sure POP detection worked and both the Redline and Sti-R Plus had no issue detecting POP from the BEE III.

max
01-08-2014, 03:01 PM
it have a little digital delay...

Nine_c1
01-08-2014, 03:21 PM
You're pretty darn quick with that trigger Tom.....and the Plus has the response time of a cat.

I'm surprised the RedLine missed a couple but it can happen, I wouldn't be concerned though as the MPH will not flash a speed under that time frame unless it was actually in POP mode.

BestRadarDetectors
01-08-2014, 03:22 PM
it have a little digital delay...

Yes, There seems to be a slight delay on Radar alerts through the Bluetooth module. I dont find any delay on the Laser Side of the ALP Connect app though.

max
01-08-2014, 03:32 PM
Apparently you have to "play" a little more with the software, to improve it ...

shanetrainST
01-08-2014, 06:08 PM
Longest delay on a KA I have had is 2.34second with the ALP non segmented. Since they don't run KA in my area it something I have not setup the feature but I'll test it out. K preformence is quite good.

max
01-08-2014, 06:14 PM
"on a KA I have had is 2.34 second" that can and should be fix.

dinkydi
01-08-2014, 06:39 PM
unless i got this wrong was the plus slightly faster than the rl , or do they all have a 2.4 sec delay, running through the bt module

BestRadarDetectors
01-09-2014, 07:43 AM
unless i got this wrong was the plus slightly faster than the rl , or do they all have a 2.4 sec delay, running through the bt module

I have never seen a long delay. You can see from the many videos I have posted the difference in the alert times. The Sti-R Plus seems to be quicker at picking up I/O shots but the ALP Connection App slightly lags in its alert. If you watch the video you will see exactly what I mean where in the first I/O shot the Redline alerts slightly quicker when they both detect the shot.

hitechrr
01-09-2014, 09:04 PM
I installed it in my car and find it very chatty. It gives warning sooner than my bel magnum did. I had to disable x band. I will need to turn it back on in NJ. On my 3 mile ride to work I was getting 8 alerts.

BestRadarDetectors
01-09-2014, 09:23 PM
I installed it in my car and find it very chatty. It gives warning sooner than my bel magnum did. I had to disable x band. I will need to turn it back on in NJ. On my 3 mile ride to work I was getting 8 alerts.

You can quiet it down with TSR ON just like the Redline but it will slow down its reactivity. Once it gets Auto Mute it will be much more bearable and once GPS antenna is connected you can have it ignore both radar and laser alerts under a preset speed.

Holla
01-09-2014, 11:31 PM
This lagging issue, is that gonna be addressed?

shanetrainST
01-10-2014, 07:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC_Rs-11ejg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Small little video of ALPconnect vs RL vs V1
Thanks BeingAware for the editing

Holla
01-10-2014, 09:45 PM
Yep A lag for sure, and thats not a good thing

BestRadarDetectors
01-10-2014, 09:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC_Rs-11ejg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Small little video of ALPconnect vs RL vs V1
Thanks BeingAware for the editing

I have never seen a long lag like this and you can see that from any of the videos I posted. Slight delay but nothing like in your video. One thing I did notice is that you have the Sti-R Plus antenna facing forward and the Redline antenna is in the rear. Try turning the Sti-R Plus antenna facing away from you because you might be over driving the antenna being so close and aiming directly into the horn.

beingaware
01-10-2014, 10:07 PM
I have never seen a long lag like this and you can see that from any of the videos I posted. Slight delay but nothing like in your video. One thing I did notice is that you have the Sti-R Plus antenna facing forward and the Redline antenna is in the rear. Try turning the Sti-R Plus antenna facing away from you because you might be over driving the antenna being so close and aiming directly into the horn.

ST was firing the gun away from the RD with his body in the way.
Shouldn't matter about over driving anyway.
Moment the LO + RF loop is excited, doesn't matter if its 0db or -150db, will have the same reaction in the software on the RD.
I say the lag is between the BT device and the software.

Fire gun ---- rd figures out that it was hit, sends data to bt mod, bt then sends a packet to the mobile, the software then needs to understand what its being told and load up the correct alert.
To be honest, I say the lag is in the BT to software stage.
You have 3 cpus with ALP, the sti cpu, the bt cpu and then phones vs the 1 cpu in the redline.
Naturally there will be some lag but 2.4 seconds is a bit too long IMO.

Maybe we need a Android version to come out... ;)

Antilaser
01-11-2014, 07:10 AM
Thanks for your comments! The STI-R radar antenna is somewhat slower to react then V1, you can make it faster by disabling all Ka segments except the one you need. RDR/TSR OFF is also a Must to reduce delay.
If you have a Bel STIR control unit you can test your STI-R antenna with it and it should have almost the same delay (Bands & filters setup the same off course) as over the ALPConnect.

shanetrainST
01-11-2014, 09:56 AM
The main goal of the small test was to see how they all preformed on a sorta level playing ground, with no tweaks.
Yes, next time they wont be placed as close together as there was a small bit of chatter between the RD's, also I will enable segmentation and the other features and compare again. K is the only band used in my area that I live so as long as it preforms well on that band, I'm a happy man.

One question that I have about the STI-R+ Head, it has a IR receiver in it, is this in anyway communicated to the ALP CPU as it would help determine it final mounting location on my car.
Thanks

BestRadarDetectors
01-11-2014, 09:59 AM
The main goal of the small test was to see how they all preformed on a sorta level playing ground, with no tweaks.
Yes, next time they wont be placed as close together as there was a small bit of chatter between the RD's, also I will enable segmentation and the other features and compare again. K is the only band used in my area that I live so as long as it preforms well on that band, I'm a happy man.

One question that I have about the STI-R+ Head, it has a IR receiver in it, is this in anyway communicated to the ALP CPU as it would help determine it final mounting location on my car.
Thanks

No, The Laser Receiver in the Sti-R Plus is not used.

Holla
01-11-2014, 08:51 PM
The main goal of the small test was to see how they all preformed on a sorta level playing ground, with no tweaks.
Yes, next time they wont be placed as close together as there was a small bit of chatter between the RD's, also I will enable segmentation and the other features and compare again. K is the only band used in my area that I live so as long as it preforms well on that band, I'm a happy man.

One question that I have about the STI-R+ Head, it has a IR receiver in it, is this in anyway communicated to the ALP CPU as it would help determine it final mounting location on my car.
Thanks

Yes PLEASE redo your test and put the Sti-R into combat mode 2-5-8- X/RDR/TSR OFF please and see if you still have that delay when shooting KA---Thanks!!!

dinkydi
01-11-2014, 09:56 PM
+1, look forward to that,

JohnBoy
01-12-2014, 08:24 PM
Why is the IR sensor in the Sti not used? At least in theory, it would add more receiving protection (receiving power of three heads) on the front. Is this in the cards for the future, or just impossible to integrate?

It is a selling point to me. Thanks for all you do Tom, including putting up with our high demands ;)

BestRadarDetectors
01-12-2014, 08:47 PM
Why is the IR sensor in the Sti not used? At least in theory, it would add more receiving protection (receiving power of three heads) on the front. Is this in the cards for the future, or just impossible to integrate?

It is a selling point to me. Thanks for all you do Tom, including putting up with our high demands ;)

The receiver in the Sti-R Plus is no where near as sensitive as the ALP and its not designed to capture any pulse information other than send an alert message if it detects something. It would only add false alerts and not be beneficial. The Sti-R Plus integration is only to add Radar to the already best laser defense system.

beingaware
01-17-2014, 09:33 AM
The receiver in the Sti-R Plus is no where near as sensitive as the ALP and its not designed to capture any pulse information other than send an alert message if it detects something. It would only add false alerts and not be beneficial. The Sti-R Plus integration is only to add Radar to the already best laser defense system.

The IR in the STI-R plus and RL is pretty ummm, bad.
No sense in throwing it in, just extra code to cause problems down the line.
In the below video, you will hear my Redline alerting a good 21 seconds after the ALP has already started to jam...
Jump ahead to 1 minute and 29 seconds

http://youtu.be/mPRrn2HVUMc?t=1m30s